Syfy Nearing Series Order For "12 Monkeys" Adaptation

[JJmelo]

I think it'll turn out that the failed time travel experiments carrying the plague are what started the plague in the first place... if that's the case, then I don't think Cole is the origin/source of the plague... but who knows?... *shrug*

I believe that Cole is the original carrier, since he is the only one to successfully travel back and forth. Deacon is the leader of the 12 Monkeys, he likes the power he has obtained in the apocalypse and wants to make sure that doesnt change. The immune people have some sort of penchant for time travel or other various ways of connecting to different timelines ala Jennifer Goines (evidenced by her multiple Jennifers comment).

These are my crazy theories. for more, here is my review of 'The Night Room':
http://otlnews.net/2015/02/13/12-monkeys-review-s1-ep-5-the-night-room/

 

[X-Ray]

i think the corpse may have been one of the failed experiments. successfully sent back but not able to retrieve. Cole destroying it introduced a new virus or new strain of the original. the new strain has now killed those who were once considered immune like Jones and her team. lucky for Cole. he's still immune to the new strain but so is Deacon. as for Deacon being a leader of the 12 Monkey. Idk, I just see him as a survivalist who rules with an ironed fist. I think 1987 will be when the first attempt to steal the virus will take place and it's probably Cole.

edit: ^ checked that link in your post, JJmelo. the Cole theory carries some weight when you factor in his odd illness or whatever when he's close to himself.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, Cole getting a bit sick around the corpse is a bit suspicious. I do wonder if multiple timelines are in play.

 

[Golgo-13]

Yeah, that corpse could be Cole from a different timeline. Just like the watch in the first eps, and Cole in the previous ep, whenever the same thing from a different time get close to itself, it causes issues. Also Jennifer said sometiing about the corpse's eyes..and earlier she said someting about Cole's eyes when they were embraced….

It's crazy that Jones is probably the cause of the plague. She invented time travel to go back and stop it, but in doing so she sent the plague back and started it….this is the reason why i love time travel shows/movies. So many crazy theories, so much potential.

Also, i have a feeling that Noonan's character might be a time traveller as well. Is it possible he was also one of the successful experiments which they couldn't retrieve, only he got sent back way further and got stuck..thus explaining his age….

 

[Hunter Rider]

I love it when the show focuses on Cole, Cassie, The Tall Man and Jennifer in 2015, not so keen on all the time jumping though. The girl playing Jennifer is hilarious.

The special effects makeup for the decomposed corpse that contained the virus was excellent. Great cliffhanger.

Yeah, that was some good old fashioned prosthetic work!

 

[Golgo-13]

I think the conversion Jones had with Cole and Reilly when she said that only 'this version of them would be altered if Cole suceeds', foreshadowed the cliffhanger, in that maybe Reilly is the leader of West 7 now. The way the clothes were hanging up in the machine room seemed much more Reilly like than Deacon.

I do subscrbe to the theory that a new strain of the virus is what killed Jones and co after destroyng the remains, but it seems odd that they would give us more backstory on Jones only to kill her in the same ep. If the show continues, i'm sure she will return, as everytime Cole changes something, he alters the timeline.

I'm really loving this show; it's favorite on tv right now.

One thing bothers me however;

Seeing as we now know that when Cole splinters, he always returns to the machine room. When he slintered from the alley bleeding, when he first met Cassie, why did they return him to 2015 still bleeding? Seems very risky sending their only sucessful time jumper on another mission, seriously wounded…

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Ya I'm loving this show. Really great, I keep recommending it to people. I hope the quality and suspense continues

 

[Hunter Rider]

It seems like the Cole and Ramsey bromance can survive any timeline. It was interesting seeing Cole paired with Aaron and now he believes which will add to the story given his government job.

 

[Golgo-13]

Another good ep. Seems that every theory about the virus mutating thus changing the timeline was wrong; that's the great thing about time travel shows, so many possibilities.

I assume the witness is either Cole from another timeline or most likey an earlier time travel subject that they couldn't retrieve.

 

[JJmelo]

Another good ep. Seems that every theory about the virus mutating thus changing the timeline was wrong; that's the great thing about time travel shows, so many possibilities.

I assume the witness is either Cole from another timeline or most likey an earlier time travel subject that they couldn't retrieve.

I'm thinking Deacon or an alternate timeline Railly. Her capture seemed necessary for the plague to exist. With her the process was sped up 2 years, I feel like its only a matter of time before she gets captured again.

Its a great show thus far, really has me hooked.

Here is my full review of 'The Red Forest'
http://otlnews.net/2015/02/20/12-monkeys-review-s1-ep-6-the-red-forest/

 

[Sithborg]

So, did Cole splinter out in time?

I am loving this show, but it feels like I need to set up a tack board to keep track of everything. And the time travel issues is starting to make my head hurt.

 

[blksuperman2]

THat was an emotional episode. This is really becoming my favorite new show.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

So, did Cole splinter out in time?

I am loving this show, but it feels like I need to set up a tack board to keep track of everything. And the time travel issues is starting to make my head hurt.

I've been getting a bit confused over the last couple of weeks with all the time-travelling back and forth, but I'm still loving this show...

 

[Golgo-13]

So, did Cole splinter out in time?

I am loving this show, but it feels like I need to set up a tack board to keep track of everything. And the time travel issues is starting to make my head hurt.

I'm thinking that Cole splintered into a different timeline, just like he did in the previous ep. I say that becuse in the promo for next week, Jones and Reilly in 2043 are saying somethng about Cole not coming back. When Cole Splintered into that alternate timeline, saved Cassie and then ended back in the right 2043, Jones had said to him 'your late'; meaning that because he was in that alternate 2043, they couldn't retrieve him until he correted the timeline. So i think because the virus is destroyed (so it seems) he splintered into another 2043.

Next wek will probably be a Cole free ep, just to keep us guessing, and it looks like Cole wil soon be going back to 1987.

 

[Hunter Rider]

This weeks ep had me so muddled.

 

[Golgo-13]

This weeks ep had me so muddled.

How so? The one week earlier scenerio? It's a tad confusing at first but once Cole explains it, and the events play out, it makes sense:

1)Cole Splinters from the bookstore after going to the museum with Cassie in 2015. Unbeknowest to them at that time, the operation to release the virus is currently underway.

2)Cole is now in 2043.

3)In order to give Cassie and Aaron time to find the virus, Cole get's sent back to 2015, a week later from the day they were at the museum. At that point the events of this ep have already played out, so Cassie and Aaron already know where the virus is going to be along with Cole's fate.

4) Knowing where the virus is going to be, thanks to Cassie and Aaron knowing how things are going to play out, Cole then get's sent back a week earlier (which is mere hours to Cassie), after he had splintered from the bookstore after the museum visit...and things play out from there.

Yes, time travel is complex..which is why i love it!

 

[Sithborg]

See, where it gets me is how they are going to continue Cole's story.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Just caught the latest episode. Damn I love this show! I love how the promo didn't spoil anything as to keep us guessing. Really intrigued to see where it goes from here

 

[Golgo-13]

See, where it gets me is how they are going to continue Cole's story.

Only thing i can think of is he splintered into an alternate 2043, or and this is a bit of a stretch, that he knew he was going to die (Cassie's tearful farewell at the end probably hinted to him) so he took some kind of precaution (crawling into a hidden bunker at the last second, etc), just in case the virus did get out, he would still be alive to stop it. In the promo, it looks like Cassie is searching the rubble, so maybe she finds him in a bunker, etc.

Also, it might be plausible to have Cole splinter into a slightly different 2043 at this point in the story, where everyone is basically the same with only some minute differences, seeing as how he looks like the time jumping is really f'ing his body up. In this new 2043, Jones could have come up with a way of prolonging his health..just a fun theory.

 

[Golgo-13]

Another good ep. Had a feeling that Cole splintered when the rubble he was buried in wasn't still burning, the absence of smoke, etc.

I wonder if from now they'll continue the story in 2017..?

 

[Sithborg]

I get the feeling someone from Project Spearhead is the source of the Army of the 12 Monkeys.

 

[X-Ray]

Cassie does warn Cole that someone or something ".... Is among you..." in the those tapes from the pilot episode.

 

[blksuperman2]

Eventually, I'm thinking that they'll come to the conclusion that you can't change what's happened (for the good) in the past. A la the movie and "The Time Machine". Everything has to happen in the past to warrant the need to build a time machine in the first place.

Perhaps the Colonel and Splinter group will come to an understanding and the trips to the past will be to gather information on how to combat the virus in the future and not trying to change everything that's happened.

 

[Golgo-13]

I get the feeling someone from Project Spearhead is the source of the Army of the 12 Monkeys.

Starting to think that the Colonel might be 'The Witness' in 2015.

 

[Kaleb]

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'12 Monkeys' Renewed for Second Season by Syfy