Comics The '07 X-Event: Endangered Species, Messiah Complex, & Disassembled

WOOT!!!! Rogue has Sinisters powers! Woot woot! :woot:

Only for about a minute. Her contact/absorption ratio is about 1/60. Since she only touched Sinister for a second or so, she would only have his powers for a few minutes at most.


Also, Rogue's got cooties!:wow:
 
Only for about a minute. Her contact/absorption ratio is about 1/60. Since she only touched Sinister for a second or so, she would only have his powers for a few minutes at most.


Also, Rogue's got cooties!:wow:
Try again Can-Can and update yourself, she still has the effects of strain 88.
This means instant death touch, face it. You're just mad now she'll be able to scan Gambit's mind and see how many STD's he got from all those hookers in New Orleans (Belladonna included :P)===========>
 
Strain-88 only convey's the imprint of a person's psyche, not powers. Hectacomb had several powered people as part of it's collective, not to mention superhuman traits they'd have as aliens, but Rogue hasn't been able to manifest any of them. Sorry, but Rogue isn't the new Sinister.

Course, even if she was, it wouldn't help he any. Sinny can't peek into Gumbo's mind., remember?
 
Strain-88 only convey's the imprint of a person's psyche, not powers. Hectacomb had several powered people as part of it's collective, not to mention superhuman traits they'd have as aliens, but Rogue hasn't been able to manifest any of them. Sorry, but Rogue isn't the new Sinister.

Course, even if she was, it wouldn't help he any. Sinny can't peek into Gumbo's mind., remember?
Anbd sorry to inform you my friend you are incorrect. Pan created strain 88 to retain powers, not knowledge. He had plenty of that already. Face it. I know you hate Rogue, but she just got upgraded while gumbo is still p***y whooped, and I'm sure Xavier being in legacy plays a big part on how will Rogue will regain control of her powers while Gambit wails and sits on the sidelines being her personal waiter.
 
Anbd sorry to inform you my friend you are incorrect. Pan created strain 88 to retain powers, not knowledge. He had plenty of that already. Face it. I know you hate Rogue, but she just got upgraded while gumbo is still p***y whooped, and I'm sure Xavier being in legacy plays a big part on how will Rogue will regain control of her powers while Gambit wails and sits on the sidelines being her personal waiter.

You're ignoring the fact that Rogue hasn't retained any powers because of Strain-88.

But don't let a little thing like facts get in your way...... :whatever:
 
You're ignoring the fact that Rogue hasn't retained any powers because of Strain-88.

But don't let a little thing like facts get in your way...... :whatever:
Really? How about you face the fact that Rogue is about kick @$$!
Because you're a hater :woot: If strain 88 didn't give Rogue any kind
of enhancement how did she survive Hectacomb?
Oh, right, Shiro's powers? :whatever: Meh
 
Really? How about you face the fact that Rogue is about kick @$$!Because you're a hater If strain 88 didn't give Rogue any kindof enhancement how did she survive Hectacomb? Oh, right, Shiro's powers, right? Meh

There's no reason her absorbing Hectacomb would kill her outright, just drive her bat**** insane. Which it did.

Are you even paying attention to what happens in the comics anymore?
 
Superhero Hype!: Where's it's more important to prove the other guy wrong, than to prove yourself right.
 
There's no reason her absorbing Hectacomb would kill her outright, just drive her bat**** insane. Which it did.

Are you even paying attention to what happens in the comics anymore?
Ofcourse I do, I get mine before the stores do remember? You always ask me to post scans. Thus, I know what's going on b4 u do. Remember when I posted the first image of Gambit & the Marauders and you leaked your pants? You're welcome... again. But like I was saying, Rogue couldn't have survived Hectacomb with just Sunfire's powers, and maybe the reason she can't use powers she's absorbed is because she's not mentally sane, but I'm sure #207 will fix all that, then we'll have you come in here kicking and complaining about how carey overpowered Rogue. Face it. If Marvel were the music industry, Gambit would be Milli Vanilli :oldrazz::cwink: Don't be mad @ Rogue or carey 4 that :word:
 
i'm not trying to hate on anybody here but i think canemacar has a point. did it explicitly say anywhere that absorbing hecatomb could have killed her, i get that it was dangerous and drove her insane but i'm just wondering if it was ever said she couldn't survive that?
 
Ofcourse I do, I get mine before the stores do remember? You always ask me to post scans. Thus, I know what's going on b4 u do. Remember when I posted the first image of Gambit & the Marauders and you leaked your pants? You're welcome... again. But like I was saying, Rogue couldn't have survived Hectacomb with just Sunfire's powers, and maybe the reason she can't use powers she's absorbed is because she's not mentally sane, but I'm sure #207 will fix all that, then we'll have you come in here kicking and complaining about how carey overpowered Rogue. Face it. If Marvel were the music industry, Gambit would be Milli Vanilli :oldrazz::cwink: Don't be mad @ Rogue or carey 4 that :word:

I see you've gone from straight confidence to hopeful speculation.
 
I see you've gone from straight confidence to hopeful speculation.
As a Rogue fan, I'm just happy to see my girl doing something atleast,
she's in freakin panel coma and they still complain, get over it.
Not you personally, but if you happen to be a Rogue hater it applies.
I gave a mere cheer for my southern gal, and people get their tighty wighties in bunch. :grin:
 
Does Anyone actually belive Sinister is dead???? Have you forgotten when Domina killed him 17 times??? He's not dead, he'll be back.

And Rogue had touched Sinister in the past, we saw his "essence" in her mind in X-treme X-Men (wether it was in Savage Land or in those issues Sage gave her access to all the powers I don't remember, but it was in X-Treme), so it's nothing new.
 
Does Anyone actually belive Sinister is dead???? Have you forgotten when Domina killed him 17 times??? He's not dead, he'll be back.

And Rogue had touched Sinister in the past, we saw his "essence" in her mind in X-treme X-Men (wether it was in Savage Land or in those issues Sage gave her access to all the powers I don't remember, but it was in X-Treme), so it's nothing new.

1. No one in the Marvel Universe ever stays "dead" so that's not even an issue for me.

2. I doubt they'll give Rogue the powers of Sinister, seeing as how they never even defined what Sinister's powers were. He was the dues ex machina of baddies, because they just gave him whatever the story called for and said "he's a scientist, he can do it."

3. While we know Rogue is getting a power upgrade of some kind, I get the vibe that part of it will be control over her absorption powers. That meaning, she'll be able to touch people.
 
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First up is Marcus Martin, and it seems that he has quite a bit on his mind regarding “X-Factor” and current events.

1) I have heard that after the events of ‘Messiah CompleX,’ Jamie Madrox will have a nervous breakdown. Is it due to his guilt of leaving Layla behind in the future and Wolfsbane leaving the team?
You’re presupposing that what you’ve heard is true. If it is true, why would I want to confirm that and blow major plot points, and if it isn’t, why waste time answering?
2) I have also heard in a recent interview that you are going to bring in Darwin into X-Factor post-“MC” – is this true? And if he does [join X-Factor], could you have Darwin dress up like a pimp for a least a few panels, because it would go with his power to adapt to any environment?
Yes and no.
3) Will any other mutant be joining X-Factor post-“MC?”
Possibly.
4) In recent solicits of “X-Factor,” I thought it said an X-Men villain attacks mutant town. Who would be willing to do this when there aren’t any mutants left?
Well, X-Factor is left, so they count for something. As for no mutants being left there, that’s actually a salient story point that’s being addressed in those very issues.
The next question is something that a few people were wondering about. For our purposes, I’m combining B.Brus and samwise484’s emails because they had the neatest handwriting.
Has Layla actually died in the future? I’m going to miss her something fierce. And what happens now to her earlier foretelling of marriage to Jamie? Right before Layla blows Madrox up, she says, “Trust me. I’m Layla...Madrox. I know st…” She usually says Layla Miller but she hesitates and says ‘Madrox’ instead. Is this significant, or is she just addressing Madrox? It seems odd that she would call him Jamie right before and then Madrox.
It was meant to be enigmatic (which is Layla’s trademark). Was she just saying her first name and using “Madrox” in direct address? Was she using what would become her married name? Inquiring minds want to kno, and, one hopes, will read future issues of “X-Factor” to find out.

It seems Red Lotus could be one of those “inquiring minds.” As such, she wrote in with several inquiries from the last issue of “X-Factor.” Can you help her out, Peter?
Alright. For the next questions, I will do my impression of the Magic 8-Ball.
1) With Mystique killing Sinister, will any of the Marauders want to get a little payback for their fallen leader?
Entirely possible.
2) Is Lady Mastermind dead?
Looks that way.
3) Professor Xavier has stated that because of Gambit’s powers, his mind is hard to read even when he (Gambit) is cooperative. Since the Cuckoos were able to track Gambit’s thoughts, did Gambit “let” the X-Men track him?
It seems so.
4) When and if Layla returns from the future, will she be stuck with that M over her eye? And will she undergo more changes while she’s there?
Future cloudy. Try again later.
5) In an earlier scene, Cyclops reminiscences about the time he sent Cable into the future. Could this be foreshadowing as to what’s to come? Yes.
Those Magic 8-Balls certainly get right to the point, but I believe NewChad might be looking for slightly more elaborate answers.

1) Two Jamies went to two different futures. So far we’ve only seen what happens to one of them. Will the other be addressed in “Messiah CompleX” or “X-Factor?”
That is a dangling thread, yes, and one that is going to show up in a future issue of “X-Factor.” Why? Because having it show up in an issue of “X-Factor” that’s already come out is just too darned difficult.
2) And please tell me Predator X actually plays a necessary role to the whole story and isn’t just a “red herring” storyline to keep the characters occupied. So far it seems like a bit of filler.
Predator X actually plays a necessary role to the whole story and isn’t just a “red herring” storyline to keep the characters occupied.
You ask, and Peter David answers. Valeria Kementari has seen the future – in past “X-Men” adventures, at least. Maybe you could help explain a few story points for her.
1) We’re being led to believe that Bishop’s future is bad because of the baby – and that Cable’s future is good because of her – but the X-Men have experience with possible futures, so they should know those futures are alternate. They know Bishop’s future is not theirs because he stopped Onslaught from killing the X-Men. They know Cable’s future is not theirs because Apocalypse was stopped during the “Twelve” debacle. Why would they care about this? We know the divergent points from where Earth 4935 (Cable) and Earth 1191 (Bishop) were originated and both had been averted. So why would the ‘Messiah’ child endanger said timelines when they have already diverged? It really doesn’t make much sense to me.
Because events can have ramifications and ripple effects from one future to the next. The reason the future timelines are pertinent is because the present day events could lead to a similar future for our own heroes...one that is uncomfortably close to, for instance, Bishop’s future. Why take chances when the potential is there?

2) And since when does Bishop have a ship from his own time? He didn’t come with any technology through that portal in “Uncanny X-Men” #281-282.
Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. But, hey, you can’t spell Bishop without “ship,” so....
So... it looks like Peter could use the assistance of an X-editor here. Wait! There’s one right now!
X-Men Editor Nick Lowe: The ship’s not from his time. It’s a modern ship that he modified to his own specifications.
Now you know – and knowing’s half the battle!
CBR Forum’s Magneto is back, and, being Magneto, he was curious about some of the evil machinations that took place recently.
Mr. David, I just have one question I need answered: How on earth is Mystique able to harm Sinister, much less put him down? It seems the only thing around the Marauders/Acolytes team that could be capable of harming Essex is most likely Exodus. It’s just horrible to see someone with his track record be taken out like that. And Lawrence of Arabia died in a motorcycle accident. The heights that one attains in life don’t always match up with the death that you meet. That’s simply the way the real world works. I kind of like the notion that you’ve got someone with this huge, horrific track record and he winds up getting sandbagged by someone you wouldn’t have expected. I mean, c’mon, it’s not like we had him taken down by Willie Lumpkin
 
Reposting the full interview for what was left out and so it's more readable:


In last week’s “X-Factor” #26, there was loads of deception, destruction, and some mutants were turned into dessert. To answer your questions about the startling issue and Marvel's ongoing “Messiah CompleX” crossover event, “X-Factor’s” own Peter David joins us this week for an all-new X-POSITION, in which we preview exclusive pages from “New X-Men” #46, on sale this week.


The emails this week are an interesting mix of queries and theories, so let’s toss them to our guest and see what he does with them.

SPOILER WARNING.

First up is Marcus Martin, and it seems that he has quite a bit on his mind regarding “X-Factor” and current events.


1) I have heard that after the events of ‘Messiah CompleX,’ Jamie Madrox will have a nervous breakdown. Is it due to his guilt of leaving Layla behind in the future and Wolfsbane leaving the team?

You’re presupposing that what you’ve heard is true. If it is true, why would I want to confirm that and blow major plot points, and if it isn’t, why waste time answering?

2) I have also heard in a recent interview that you are going to bring in Darwin into X-Factor post-“MC” – is this true? And if he does [join X-Factor], could you have Darwin dress up like a pimp for a least a few panels, because it would go with his power to adapt to any environment?

Yes and no.

3) Will any other mutant be joining X-Factor post-“MC?”


Possibly.

4) In recent solicits of “X-Factor,” I thought it said an X-Men villain attacks mutant town. Who would be willing to do this when there aren’t any mutants left?

Well, X-Factor is left, so they count for something. As for no mutants being left there, that’s actually a salient story point that’s being addressed in those very issues.

The next question is something that a few people were wondering about. For our purposes, I’m combining B.Brus and samwise484’s emails because they had the neatest handwriting.

Has Layla actually died in the future? I’m going to miss her something fierce. And what happens now to her earlier foretelling of marriage to Jamie? Right before Layla blows Madrox up, she says, “Trust me. I’m Layla...Madrox. I know st…”
She usually says Layla Miller but she hesitates and says ‘Madrox’ instead. Is this significant, or is she just addressing Madrox? It seems odd that she would call him Jamie right before and then Madrox.

It was meant to be enigmatic (which is Layla’s trademark). Was she just saying her first name and using “Madrox” in direct address? Was she using what would become her married name? Inquiring minds want to kno, and, one hopes, will read future issues of “X-Factor” to find out.


It seems Red Lotus could be one of those “inquiring minds.” As such, she wrote in with several inquiries from the last issue of “X-Factor.” Can you help her out, Peter?

Alright. For the next questions, I will do my impression of the Magic 8-Ball.

1) With Mystique killing Sinister, will any of the Marauders want to get a little payback for their fallen leader?


Entirely possible.

2) Is Lady Mastermind dead?


Looks that way.

3) Professor Xavier has stated that because of Gambit’s powers, his mind is hard to read even when he (Gambit) is cooperative. Since the Cuckoos were able to track Gambit’s thoughts, did Gambit “let” the X-Men track him?

It seems so.

4) When and if Layla returns from the future, will she be stuck with that M over her eye? And will she undergo more changes while she’s there?

Future cloudy. Try again later.

5) In an earlier scene, Cyclops reminiscences about the time he sent Cable into the future. Could this be foreshadowing as to what’s to come?

Yes.

Those Magic 8-Balls certainly get right to the point, but I believe NewChad might be looking for slightly more elaborate answers.


1) Two Jamies went to two different futures. So far we’ve only seen what happens to one of them. Will the other be addressed in “Messiah CompleX” or “X-Factor?”

That is a dangling thread, yes, and one that is going to show up in a future issue of “X-Factor.” Why? Because having it show up in an issue of “X-Factor” that’s already come out is just too darned difficult.

2) And please tell me Predator X actually plays a necessary role to the whole story and isn’t just a “red herring” storyline to keep the characters occupied. So far it seems like a bit of filler.

Predator X actually plays a necessary role to the whole story and isn’t just a “red herring” storyline to keep the characters occupied.

You ask, and Peter David answers. Valeria Kementari has seen the future – in past “X-Men” adventures, at least. Maybe you could help explain a few story points for her.

1) We’re being led to believe that Bishop’s future is bad because of the baby – and that Cable’s future is good because of her – but the X-Men have experience with possible futures, so they should know those futures are alternate. They know Bishop’s future is not theirs because he stopped Onslaught from killing the X-Men. They know Cable’s future is not theirs because Apocalypse was stopped during the “Twelve” debacle.

Why would they care about this? We know the divergent points from where Earth 4935 (Cable) and Earth 1191 (Bishop) were originated and both had been averted. So why would the ‘Messiah’ child endanger said timelines when they have already diverged? It really doesn’t make much sense to me.

Because events can have ramifications and ripple effects from one future to the next. The reason the future timelines are pertinent is because the present day events could lead to a similar future for our own heroes...one that is uncomfortably close to, for instance, Bishop’s future. Why take chances when the potential is there?


2) And since when does Bishop have a ship from his own time? He didn’t come with any technology through that portal in “Uncanny X-Men” #281-282.

Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. But, hey, you can’t spell Bishop without “ship,” so....

So... it looks like Peter could use the assistance of an X-editor here. Wait! There’s one right now!

X-Men Editor Nick Lowe: The ship’s not from his time. It’s a modern ship that he modified to his own specifications.

Now you know – and knowing’s half the battle!

CBR Forum’s Magneto is back, and, being Magneto, he was curious about some of the evil machinations that took place recently.

Mr. David, I just have one question I need answered: How on earth is Mystique able to harm Sinister, much less put him down? It seems the only thing around the Marauders/Acolytes team that could be capable of harming Essex is most likely Exodus. It’s just horrible to see someone with his track record be taken out like that.

And Lawrence of Arabia died in a motorcycle accident. The heights that one attains in life don’t always match up with the death that you meet. That’s simply the way the real world works. I kind of like the notion that you’ve got someone with this huge, horrific track record and he winds up getting sandbagged by someone you wouldn’t have expected. I mean, c’mon, it’s not like we had him taken down by Willie Lumpkin.

Ann Nichols was ruminating on the future.


Many years ago, I read a sci-fi story in which humanity’s future depended upon which of two girlfriends the scientist ‘hero’ married. Would it be reasonable to suspect that how this infant girl will be reared could be the deciding factor for mutantkind’s future?

It certainly seems the reasonable way to think about it as far as I’m concerned.

One of the recurring themes I see in X-POSITION emails are theories on the identity of the mutant baby. Let’s close this week out with Papabaron’s interesting take on the subject.

I have my own theory as to the baby’s identity. Since the baby was found in Alaska, original place of Madelyn Prior, perhaps the baby is Rachel Summers (and her mother is the aforementioned Madelyn). We have never really been told Rachel’s origin, since it may have occurred in a future that no longer exists thanks to her trip back to the past. Am I warm?

I don’t know. I haven’t felt your forehead.

Badda-bing! Thank you! Remember, the 7:30 X-POSITION show is completely different than the 5:30. Enjoy the veal!

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You ask, and Peter David answers. Valeria Kementari has seen the future – in past “X-Men” adventures, at least. Maybe you could help explain a few story points for her.

1) We’re being led to believe that Bishop’s future is bad because of the baby – and that Cable’s future is good because of her – but the X-Men have experience with possible futures, so they should know those futures are alternate. They know Bishop’s future is not theirs because he stopped Onslaught from killing the X-Men. They know Cable’s future is not theirs because Apocalypse was stopped during the “Twelve” debacle.

Why would they care about this? We know the divergent points from where Earth 4935 (Cable) and Earth 1191 (Bishop) were originated and both had been averted. So why would the ‘Messiah’ child endanger said timelines when they have already diverged? It really doesn’t make much sense to me.

Because events can have ramifications and ripple effects from one future to the next. The reason the future timelines are pertinent is because the present day events could lead to a similar future for our own heroes...one that is uncomfortably close to, for instance, Bishop’s future. Why take chances when the potential is there?


2) And since when does Bishop have a ship from his own time? He didn’t come with any technology through that portal in “Uncanny X-Men” #281-282.

Yeah, I was wondering about that myself. But, hey, you can’t spell Bishop without “ship,” so....

So... it looks like Peter could use the assistance of an X-editor here. Wait! There’s one right now!

X-Men Editor Nick Lowe: The ship’s not from his time. It’s a modern ship that he modified to his own specifications.

Yay! They answered two of my questions!!! this is the second time I'm in X-Position!!! yay!!! :D
 
Well since you tooted your own horn I figured there was no need to give any credit. You'd already taken it for yourself. :whatever:

Anyway, that still doesn't explain the blood in the scene. But that's Marvel for you sometimes.

It really doesn't explain the blood... f-in weird - why is there blood?...

To me it sort of looked like it was blood coming from the ears so I assumed since there was no wound - apparently comics represent mental breakdown and death with blood from the ears... but seriously why the blood?:huh:
 
I am completely against this level of bloodshed. People killing each other left and right, is this the kind of comics we want to read? Do we need such a bloodthirst in the X-Men??? I for one am not happy
 
I am completely against this level of bloodshed. People killing each other left and right, is this the kind of comics we want to read? Do we need such a bloodthirst in the X-Men??? I for one am not happy

Uh, look who's writing the issue.
 
I am completely against this level of bloodshed. People killing each other left and right, is this the kind of comics we want to read? Do we need such a bloodthirst in the X-Men??? I for one am not happy

Well, like Spec said, this is a Kyle and Yost issue, so you'll see a lot of that. And there'll be even more over in X-Force when it starts.

But in this particular story, I think the high body counts are at the very least rather realistic. The Marauders are nasty foes, all of whom have killed and many of whom are clones of long since deceased originals. They're going to fight to kill. The only way to handel them is by killing them right back.

It's not like the team has any time to put up a non-lethal effort. Like Wolvie said, if they tried to do it they'd die.
 

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