Comics The '07 X-Event: Endangered Species, Messiah Complex, & Disassembled

I am so looking forward to Messiah Complex. It seems really promising.

This wasn't mentioned in the paper I got from my comic shop concerning MC, so help me out here: is MC a miniseries or just a one-shot?
 
I am so looking forward to Messiah Complex. It seems really promising.

This wasn't mentioned in the paper I got from my comic shop concerning MC, so help me out here: is MC a miniseries or just a one-shot?
It's a one-shot and crossover. The first part of the crossover is the one-shot, titled Messiah Complex, and then it continues into a crossover through the pages of Uncanny, Adjectiveless, X-Factor, and New X-Men.
 
It's a one-shot and crossover. The first part of the crossover is the one-shot, titled Messiah Complex, and then it continues into a crossover through the pages of Uncanny, Adjectiveless, X-Factor, and New X-Men.

Any idea how many chapters it'll be?
 
So why is it that no one seems to bother to draw the X-FActor team with their new costumes?
 
So why is it that no one seems to bother to draw the X-FActor team with their new costumes?
They have new costumes..what do they look like??
Im glad they are bringing Angel back for this crossover after so long on the sidelines but why do i get the feeling that they are bringing him back just to kill him off??:csad:
 
In life, I'm sure many people would find it helpful to be able to peer into the future. As a country, if the United States had this ability, we could've prepared for – and possibly avoided – many tragedies. The mutants in the Marvel Universe have the Books of Destiny, which outline the future of their race. It doesn't appear to be helping much.


The X-Men and their ilk are trying to fend off attacks from Acolytes and Morlocks, in addition to figuring out a solution to their potential extinction. All of this will culminate in the upcoming “Messiah CompleX,” a 17-part crossover that will carry through the four main X-books and leave a big mark on the X-Universe. How big of a change? Well, that's what we here at X-POSITION are to find out.

This week we have a two-for-one special. Joining us are writer Ed Brubaker (“Uncanny X-Men,” “X-Men: Deadly Genesis”) and X-editor Nick Lowe. They came armed and ready to talk about our favorite mutants and the upcoming crossover, so let's get to it!

Ed, let's begin with you. You've been involved in crossovers at both DC Comics and Marvel. What would you say is the difference between “Messiah CompleX” and other crossovers that you've been worked on?

ED BRUBAKER: This one stars the X-Men? I don't know how to answer that, really. The biggest difference is probably the scope and the size of the cast, both good and bad guys. None of the Batman crossovers had this much stuff going on all over the world or this many bad guys involved. Also, this is something big that the books have all been building to organically, in many ways, and so it just feels like the next X-Men epic.

With this crossover, you are really getting exposed to a majority of the existing mutants in the Marvel Universe – what has that been like for you? Have you had to do a lot of research? Did any character really “speak” to you when writing them?


EB: It's not quite a hundred characters – but it does sometimes feel like it – though it's been fun, grabbing characters from everyone else's book to use. As for research, as much as I can and as little as I can get away with, or somewhere in between. It really depends on the character and how they're used in the story.

Sometimes you need to go back and read most of their appearances, and sometimes they're just punching someone or something and you just need to read their bio on uncannyxmen.net and a few of their recent appearances to get their voice...well, hopefully. It's the same with all my books, but the difference on X-Men is there have been sooo many previous issues it would be almost impossible to read them all ahead of time.

I think I really enjoyed Layla and Jamie the most, and maybe Emma. This was my first real crack at Emma, and she's a lot of fun to write.

In CBR's must-read interview with the X-writers, we discovered “Messiah CompleX” is about the search for the first mutant born since M-Day. Is it safe to assume that this babe is the “Messiah” referred to in crossover's title?

EB: Well, no one's going to kill you if you assume that, but that doesn't mean you'd be right.

Is the whole crossover about the search for this child, or is there more to it than that?


EB: What do you think? There's a lot more to it than that. It's an epic that “changes everything” – which is like a mantra, I know, but the fact is, it is and it does . And all for the better, I think.

Many of the events taking place in the X-books at the moment seem to be predicated on prophecies and future timelines. Has this child “Messiah” been foretold somewhere? Is he considered a “Messiah” because he'll save mutantkind from extinction?

EB: Who's saying the child is a messiah? I think you're reading too much into the name…and not enough. It's got a larger meta-meaning. A messiah complex and a messiah are two different things, aren't they?

But as for prophecies, yes, it's not a coincidence that we've seen so many stories about predictions of the future in the X-books recently.

We'll keep that in mind. And now, let's go to a question from reader AspBros, who was curious about a certain powerful mutant. “As the Scarlet Witch was the cause of M-Day, will she make an appearance during the ‘Messiah CompleX' crossover? And will magic play a part in this new baby's birth?

EB: No. Her appearances won't go beyond “Endangered Species.”

Well, at the very least we can look forward to seeing her there. And speaking of characters that will appear soon, Danny van der Sluys had a couple of queries.


1) Will we see any more Acolytes in the ‘Messiah CompleX' crossover? And if so, can you spoil a few?

NICK LOWE: You certainly will. A few that you might recognize are Vindaloo and Neophyte.

2) Any hint how many mutants will die in the crossover?

NL: At least one.

Let the dead pool begin! Gil Van Sligtenhorst wrote in because she was curious about a character's chance at redemption. “Is it possible that at some point in the future Gambit could return to the X-Men? Understanding that both he and Rogue have a lot of their own individual stories to work through, is it also possible at some point down the line that they could be reunited?”

NL: Sorry, Gil, that would give away too much of his role in the story.

Going back to the beginning of this column, HerringBone requested some clarification. “The Books of Destiny seem to be playing a big part of events leading up to ‘Messiah CompleX' (in both ‘X-Men' and ‘Uncanny'). I kind of need a refresher – can you tell me what these books are and where they came from?”


NL: Those are the diaries of the character Destiny. She was a compatriot of Mystique's from her early villainous adventures. Destiny could see the future and would write it down very cryptically in her diaries. They have been passed around through the X-books many times. You can read more about Destiny here.

Okay everyone, you've got homework! NMarino is up next with a question about one of his favorite mutants. “It was great to see Storm return in ‘Uncanny' for this past arc. How much of her will we be seeing in the next few months in the X-books? The more the better!”

NL: You'll be seeing a lot of Storm in “Messiah CompleX” and more in X-books in 2008!

As long as we're on the subject of characters in “Uncanny,” Ivan was wondering, “In the original ‘X-Force,' Warpath had enhanced senses. Right now it seems as if he's a poor man's Wolvie when he should be light years better. How does he see/sense the world around him?

EB: He still has enhanced senses. He's mentioned them a number of times, and used them even recently in the Morlock story. The only thing I've not really dealt with is his sudden ability to fly, which I've just avoided because...well, just because.

Sometimes, “just because” is the best answer.

We'll finish up with Sabre, who wants a tease about the upcoming crossover. “Will any X-characters be returning from the dead during ‘Messiah Complex'? And if so, any hints as to who?”

NL: I will neither confirm nor deny this, but the fact is that a few people who have been called “Messiah” throughout history have risen from the dead.

Thanks for leaving us with something to think about, Nick!

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Nice.

X-Factor doing something that has any relevance with the big picture.

Oh, and some of us have been calling it a while back about the Messiah Vs Messiah Complex thingy regarding the baby. Booyah.
 
Let the dead pool begin! Gil Van Sligtenhorst wrote in because she was curious about a character's chance at redemption. “Is it possible that at some point in the future Gambit could return to the X-Men? Understanding that both he and Rogue have a lot of their own individual stories to work through, is it also possible at some point down the line that they could be reunited?”

NL: Sorry, Gil, that would give away too much of his role in the story.


As if everyone hadn't known where it was all going to lead from day 1.:whatever:
 
is it also possible at some point down the line that they could be reunited?

I found this line more horrifying, why would anyone want them to reunite?
The relationship of these two is like a lousy, tiresome, endless cha-cha with none of them knowing which way to move.
 
Layla's springing into battle with a Hello Kitty umbrella.

Pray for whoever gets in her path.
 
Brubaker + Silvestri...

Just. Can't. Miss.

Period. :word:
 
So is Scott and he regularly gets his ass handed to him by any telepath with a nice rack.

Telepaths are difficult opponents to deal with if you don't have mental powers, besides, Scott was the first one recovered from the mental assault in AXM #17 when others were still locked in their twisted mental loops or fighting imaginary enemies.
 
I found this line more horrifying, why would anyone want them to reunite? The relationship of these two is like a lousy, tiresome, endless cha-cha with none of them knowing which way to move.

Romy fans are just Rogue fans who like the attention it brings Rogue. Practically all the Romy fans I've talked to were big Rogue fans and didn't really care about Gambit by himself. Whereas all the *Gambit* fans(not Romy fans) I've talked to all agreed that Romy needed to end.

Which, come to think of it, explains why 99% of Romy stories are entirely Rogue-centric, cast Gambit as the bad guy regardless of what happens, and why Gambit has been effectively neutered as a character.
 
Romy fans are just Rogue fans who like the attention it brings Rogue. Practically all the Romy fans I've talked to were big Rogue fans and didn't really care about Gambit by himself. Whereas all the *Gambit* fans(not Romy fans) I've talked to all agreed that Romy needed to end.

Which, come to think of it, explains why 99% of Romy stories are entirely Rogue-centric, cast Gambit as the bad guy regardless of what happens, and why Gambit has been effectively neutered as a character.

Oh, I am a Rogue fan, but as a Gambit fan too,I do agree...this thing between them either has to move to the next level-and we all know that's not happening any time soon, don't we?-or end, so they can both move on!:oThis 'on again'>agnst, angst, angst>'off again' thing just has to be finished!


Manic said:
Layla's springing into battle with a Hello Kitty umbrella.

Pray for whoever gets in her path.

Never underestimate the power of an umbrella, even more so a Hello Kitty one!!*giggles*I love the pic, though, I have to say,so typically X-Factor for some reason!:p
 
Layla's springing into battle with a Hello Kitty umbrella.

Pray for whoever gets in her path.

That umbrella bit rules is freakin much it's not even funny.

And I know I've said it before, but it's nice to see the X-Factor in something that actually ressembles a big battle.
 
Hey!

I like Rogue AND Gambit, but I don't want them together. Admittedly, I'm more of a Rogue fan, but I care about Gambit as well. I don't want him to die. I just don't want them together.
 
Sure, sure, Ed Brubaker’s getting all kinds of buzz and talk right now for the upcoming Captain America arc, which sees a new star-spangled Avenger sporting new, Alex Ross designed togs (which also add a whole new level of meaning to the phrase “bust a cap in yo ass”), but the writer also has a little something else coming this month as well – he’s the first writer on tap for Marvel’s X-Men crossover event, Messiah Complex.

The storyline essentially follows from the fallout of M-Day, that is, back at the end of House of M when the Scarlet Witch said, “No more mutants.” The rapid effect was that the vast majority of mutants in the Marvel Universe were depowered. The secondary effect? Her statement was absolute, as in “No more mutants…ever.” No mutant babies ever again. As a species, the present-day members of Homo superior are it.

Or are they?

The simple, yet amazingly blasphemous tag for Messiah Complex: and lo, unto them, a child is born.

We hit up Brubaker to talk about launching the 13-chapter crossover.

Newsarama: The Messiah Complex one-shot hits this month Ed, and you're writing it. How did you land that honor? Did you volunteer, or did everyone else step back before you could when they asked who wanted to do it?

Ed Brubaker: I think it came about because of the publishing schedule, since Uncanny goes first in the Messiah Complex schedule, so I was always going to write the opening. And then when it was decided to do a one-shot to open instead, it was just assumed I'd write it. I've wanted to work with Silvestri for a while, so I wasn't going to complain.

NRAMA: Marvel is hyping this as the first X-Men crossover in over ten years, and you're writing part one. Does that carry any...apprehension with it? After all, X-fans are loyal, but at the same time, they'll turn on, and devour a creator without a second thought...they can be like that “domesticated” tiger that’s kept as a pet…

EB: I know that pretty well, but really, like with the Death of Cap, I'm just treating this as a story. It's an epic story, for sure, but I worry about the needs of the story and the characters more than anything else. I just wanted to tell a good opening chapter. I haven't really thought too much about the crossover of X-years past while working on this. It's been hard enough getting our story right without comparing it to the craziness of the ‘90s X-books.

So, no apprehension, really... just determination. I had a pretty detailed road map of every chapter of this story when I started, thanks to all the other writers and the editors and Jim McCann, so it was more a matter of finding a path into the story that would hopefully hook readers and set the characters down the right paths.

NRAMA: Before we move on - along those lines, from the inside, how do X-creators see X fandom? Is it even a concern? Have there been meetings where someone's said, "Oh, the fans are going to love/hate this?" Or is it all focused on story, and fan response/reaction is secondary?

EB: I would always say, and this is no dismissal of fandom by any means, but fan response should always be a secondary concern, at best. Yes, you want the fans to dig what you're doing, but doing stuff to specifically appease or antagonize fans is not servicing your stories, your characters, or your fans. They all deserve better.

When we sat in a room for days and broke this story down, we thought of how to make the biggest, baddest, most fun and exciting and dramatic X-Men X-Over we could, and that was all we talked about. We knew there would be moments that would make some fans yell and others **** bricks, but that came after we saw them up on the board or bounced them around the room.

As for X-fandom overall, well, I haven't been too exposed to it. It seems like there are more critical fans than you see on a lot of books, and some truly fanatical fans here and there, but for the most part, they don't seem that different than any other comics fan. And as I've said, uncannyxmen.net which is a fan-run site, is indispensable at this point if you work on the X-books, because there's so much history and research on that site.

NRAMA: Back to the one-shot itself, catch us up a little bit - the one shot picks up the threads that have been laid down in "Endangered Species," correct? And that was Beast's realization/hunt for...well, hope for mutants in the form of a genetic future, to put it bluntly?

EB: Not really. “Endangered” was more of a mood-setter for Messiah Complex, laying the groundwork, showing the fans the stakes and the playing field. Messiah starts with a completely new event, the first appearance of a new mutant on Cerebra since House of M ended. Since M Day. And what does this new appearance mean, who else knows about it, and what happens now... that's our story. Is this the new future of the mutant race, or is this the event that will get them all killed or thrown into the Negative Zone? That's our story.

NRAMA: That said, how soon after the last part of "Endangered Species" does this pick up, just to give a general feel of the timeline?

EB: Probably days. I don't think that's that important a consideration for Messiah Complex.

NRAMA: Is this your first crossover that you're intimately involved with at Marvel? Cap was involved in Civil War, but still, you were telling your own stories in a sense in the series - this time, you're one of the architects, right? What was/is the process like?

EB: Well, it's a lot different than just tying-in to something like House of M or Civil War. This is all the X-books for three months, so we had to break down a 13 chapter story to practically scene by scene structure so we'd all know who was doing what. The initial idea of the new mutant appearing actually came from some meeting I wasn't at, but the first I heard of it from Joe Q. at one of the summits. And then at our next X meeting we talked about it some more, as something we were building towards. So, it's been really interesting, watching this idea develop into what it now is, as each of us kicked it around and brought different suggestions to the table. But the coordination of the writing and making sure all the pieces fit together is always scary and a bit of a nightmare. It's during crossovers that I'm truly glad I'm not an editor.

NRAMA: Breaking that down more, how were the individual stories/beats decided upon? Was it character based, meaning that whoever had that character in their book got to tell the chunk of story, or was it more chronologically based, or...what?

EB: Yeah, it's all chronological, to a large degree. We went old school. Each of us got to pitch our character arcs, but we're all writing each of the strands of the plot in our issues. So, I write X-Factor and New X-Men storylines in Uncanny in several chapters. Everyone is playing with all the toys, basically, where we need or want to. But yeah, let's hope the most important scenes for any of the characters are actually written by their main writer. I think it's worked out that way, somehow.

NRAMA: The “somehow” is good to hear. And you're working with Marc on this - are you a writer who writes for their artist? If so, how's your "direction" for Marc different from the "direction" you give say, Michael on Daredevil or Steve and Mike on Cap?

EB: I am a writer who writes for the artist, but it usually takes a few issues before you figure out how to do that effectively. So, with Marc, I just looked at a bunch of his work and figured out how he paced stuff, and went with that. I'm more about storytelling than flash, and so I just relied on Marc to bring the flash with him. He knows what he's doing, so I mostly just tried to stay out of his way and give him room to show what he does.

NRAMA: The story from here – as you said, you're handing it off to...yourself, right?

EB: Yeah, lucky me, I got to leave my own loose-ends to pick up right away. That was kind of nice, really. Like I got to double-dip on the opening act of the story. Then it hands off to Peter David, who takes Jamie and Layla on a little jaunt no one will want to miss.

NRAMA: Just one last tease/question...the central goal here - the price > that could be paid if the X-Men "lose" in this situation...how would you describe the stakes in Messiah Complex?

EB: I don't want to spoil too much, but I will say, this is when we'll see Cyclops really step up and that this is a lot his story. It shows what he thinks the stakes are, and that this new mutant could be the first tiny piece of hope for the future.

The schedule for Messiah Complex is:

October 2007

• Chapter 1: X-Men: Messiah Complex one-shot

November 2007

• Chapter 2: Uncanny X-Men #492
• Chapter 3: X-Factor #25
• Chapter 4: New X-Men #44
• Chapter 5: X-Men #205

December 2007

• Chapter 6: Uncanny X-Men #493
• Chapter 7: X-Factor #26
• Chapter 8: New X-Men #45
• Chapter 9: X-Men #206

January 2008

• Chapter 10: Uncanny X-Men #494
• Chapter 11: X-Factor #27
• Chapter 12: New X-Men #46
• Chapter 13: X-Men #207


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13 Chapters. My god.
I think X-Cutioners Song was the last time we actually had a crossover like that with so many parts/chapters. Yeah there was Onslaught but most of that stuff was side effect stuff, that you didnt really need to follow the main story. I guess one could say AOA but that didnt take place in the regular MU
 
Nobody's really talked about it, but I'm also looking forward to all of the J.S. Campbell variants. I'm heated that I have a subscription to all the titles since I'm assuming that means I'll get all the primary covers. I might have to put up the extra money for the variants, regardless.
 

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