Comics The '07 X-Event: Endangered Species, Messiah Complex, & Disassembled

[Manic]

The syntax he used for Gambit's dialogue uses the same kind of grammar used mostly by people in the UK. Americans, and especially southerners(much less Cajuns), don't speak that way. Everyone else spoke in a similar way, so it's more a case of Bru being unable to write characters with distinct speech patterns than anything else.

Example?

 

[El Bastardo]

I'd type out every line of dialogue to prove you wrong, but I don't really feel like it.

So whatever floats your boat.

 

[Manic]

I meant, like, one line.

 

[El Bastardo]

And I meant Can. You just posted before me, and I didn't quote like you did.

So you should have posted after me, darn you!

 

[Canemacar]

Example?

"Take him Sunfire! Before he....."

"Let us handle the big one...."

"Stand clear, Sunfire...."

The speech is far too ornate to be realistic.

 

[El Bastardo]

"Take him Sunfire! Before he....."

"Let us handle the big one...."

"Stand clear, Sunfire...."

The speech is far too ornate to be realistic.

Not really. Although, sure, "let us" could have been reworded to "we'll."

It's hardly a big deal.

 

[Canemacar]

Not really. Although, sure, "let us" could have been reworded to "we'll."

Yes really. Just compare Gambit's dialogue as written by Carey in #200 to this. In #200, his dialogue is very unpolished and unelaborate. He doesn't shift the preposition around. Not so with Bru's.

It's hardly a big deal.

I don't remember saying it was. Unless my memory is faulty, you're the one who took issue.

 

[Manic]

"Let us" is probably the only one that comes out wrong for Gambit. You know, unless they bolded the "us" for emphasis. "Let us handle the big one"

 

[squeekness]

The syntax he used for Gambit's dialogue uses the same kind of grammar used mostly by people in the UK. Americans, and especially southerners(much less Cajuns), don't speak that way. Everyone else spoke in a similar way, so it's more a case of Bru being unable to write characters with distinct speech patterns than anything else.

I agree the syntax is off. If I was writing this I would have him saying --

"Malice -- you grab de chile'." page one

"Bien sur, we stoppin' you from killin' de chile (or even petite fille)." page three

"Stand clear, Sunfire, dis 'ere soiree gone on long enough." page five

..ect. The boy is Cajun after all, even if some think he only fakes the accent in company.

 

[Manic]

By the way, I'm probably the only comic reader one Earth who can't stand misspelled words to imitate accents. Everytime Rogue, Gambit, and Wolfsbane say "Ah" instead of "I" when referring to themselves, I want to slap someone.

Like that time I was playing the game X-Men Legends. It was the scene where you meet Moira. My sound was pretty low, so I was getting all of the dialogue through the captions on the bottom of the screen. Moira actually said "Wat kin Ah do for ye?"

 

[Canemacar]

By the way, I'm probably the only comic reader one Earth who can't stand misspelled words to imitate accents. Everytime Rogue, Gambit, and Wolfsbane say "Ah" instead of "I" when referring to themselves, I want to slap someone.

Like that time I was playing the game X-Men Legends. It was the scene where you meet Moira. My sound was pretty low, so I was getting all of the dialogue through the captions on the bottom of the screen. Moira actually said "Wat kin Ah do for ye?"

Trust me. You are far from the only one.

 

[El Bastardo]

By the way, I'm probably the only comic reader one Earth who can't stand misspelled words to imitate accents. Everytime Rogue, Gambit, and Wolfsbane say "Ah" instead of "I" when referring to themselves, I want to slap someone.

Like that time I was playing the game X-Men Legends. It was the scene where you meet Moira. My sound was pretty low, so I was getting all of the dialogue through the captions on the bottom of the screen. Moira actually said "Wat kin Ah do for ye?"

I never used to fall into this category, but slowly, bit by bit, I am.

 

[Kevin]

I agree the syntax is off. If I was writing this I would have him saying --

"Malice -- you grab de chile'." page one

"Bien sur, we stoppin' you from killin' de chile (or even petite fille)." page three

"Stand clear, Sunfire, dis 'ere soiree gone on long enough." page five

..ect. The boy is Cajun after all, even if some think he only fakes the accent in company.

If he spoke like that in this issue (which have not read yet) I would be so lost, confused, and upset. I'd feel stupid.

 

[Kevin]

By the way, I'm probably the only comic reader one Earth who can't stand misspelled words to imitate accents. Everytime Rogue, Gambit, and Wolfsbane say "Ah" instead of "I" when referring to themselves, I want to slap someone.

Like that time I was playing the game X-Men Legends. It was the scene where you meet Moira. My sound was pretty low, so I was getting all of the dialogue through the captions on the bottom of the screen. Moira actually said "Wat kin Ah do for ye?"

I like it. Sometimes, when I read comics, I do it outloud... I love Rogue.

 

[squeekness]

If he spoke like that in this issue (which have not read yet) I would be so lost, confused, and upset. I'd feel stupid.

Well, see, that is how the boy used to talk when he was first introduced to us. Some writers keep it, most don't. When I read Gambit, I hear the guy from TAS in my head and he talks more like what I wrote than what we got in those posted pages.

 

[Kevin]

Well, see, that is how the boy used to talk when he was first introduced to us. Some writers keep it, most don't. When I read Gambit, I hear the guy from TAS in my head and he talks more like what I wrote than what we got in those posted pages.

See, I loved TAS, I grew up on that. But reading it is all weird for me. I know that he says "Dats' and "Dis" but beyond that I have to turn my brain on.

 

[Slant]

Well, see, that is how the boy used to talk when he was first introduced to us. Some writers keep it, most don't. When I read Gambit, I hear the guy from TAS in my head and he talks more like what I wrote than what we got in those posted pages.

The Gambit from TAS spoke in third person, so thats a no go.

 

[squeekness]

The Gambit from TAS spoke in third person, so thats a no go.

That only goes to show that the Gambit speak lately has been off -- no Cajunisms and not third person. Even Claremont wrote Gambit speaking in the third person, these new guys do not.

 

[Manic]

That only goes to show that the Gambit speak lately has been off -- no Cajunisms and not third person. Even Claremont wrote Gambit speaking in the third person, these new guys do not.

Maybe they're implying that Gambit's accent and speech mannerisms are changing. God knows they've already said as much about Rogue (people from her Mississippi hometown called her a Yankee).

 

[Slant]

The third person thing was stupid anyway.

 

[squeekness]

The third person thing was stupid anyway.

That depends on how you look at it. If you delve a little deeper Gambit spoke that way because he felt guilty over his crimes in the past, Remy didn't do it, Gambit did. It was a way of distancing himself from it.

Maybe they're implying that Gambit's accent and speech mannerisms are changing. God knows they've already said as much about Rogue (people from her Mississippi hometown called her a Yankee).

Yes, this is possible.

 

[Canemacar]

That depends on how you look at it. If you delve a little deeper Gambit spoke that way because he felt guilty over his crimes in the past, Remy didn't do it, Gambit did. It was a way of distancing himself from it.

Actually, speaking of oneself in the third person is just something Cajun speaking people do. It's only typically done by old men these days, though. The newer generation has abandoned the practice.

 

[UraniaChang]

The third person thing was stupid anyway.

Gambit referring to himself as third person has never annoyed me as Dr. Doom did.

But his accent does always cost me ten more seconds to read each line, and if he talks more than three panels, I get a headache and have to stop reading for a while.

 

[iamlegend]

Gambit referring to himself as third person has never annoyed me as Dr. Doom did.

But his accent does always cost me ten more seconds to read each line, and if he talks more than three panels, I get a headache and have to stop reading for a while.

Wasn't that one of the points of Gambit doing it? To annoy his opponents, and maybe make them slip up?

Regardless, I'm just happy he didn't say "Damn it" ten times throughout the book... and with Brubaker that's never out of the question.

 

[UraniaChang]

Wasn't that one of the points of Gambit doing it? To annoy his opponents, and maybe make them slip up?

Then I must say, he failed in annoying me. Probably because he was'nt as much of an egomaniac as Dr. Doom, which is a good thing and a relief imo.