Comics The '07 X-Event: Endangered Species, Messiah Complex, & Disassembled

[Charlie No-One]

Some one summarize the Anole story please?

 

[Havok83]

Some one summarize the Anole story please?

Basically he's pissed at the X-men for taking away his childhood. He went to the school to learn and have a place as a "normal" kid, not be thrown into battle, watch his friends murdered around him and get involved in all that chaos. In many ways, he's worse off now than before he joined the school

 

[Charlie No-One]

Why was Northstar there?

 

[Canemacar]

Basically he's pissed at the X-men for taking away his childhood. He went to the school to learn and have a place as a "normal" kid, not be thrown into battle, watch his friends murdered around him and get involved in all that chaos. In many ways, he's worse off now than before he joined the school

Uh, no one forced him to join. There are several kids who attend the school but don't join the X-men.

(Not directed at you BTW)

 

[OutcryX]

Bad Outcry. No cookie.

Don't get me wrong..this new character is a total badass...i just wish it wasn't Bishop. because he is completely unrecognizable.

dude gets ripped from his timeline...is ok with it, loses his sister...twice...is ok with it

baby doom bringer is born and he realizes she will one day kill 180 something humans... he goes apesh_t insane...she must die and anyone that gets in his way of killing her will catch a bullet too....wtf? he caps Forge? for no reason other than to steal his stuff and because he helped Cable and now he his hunting Cable down after popping Xavier in the cranium(but that was accidental..that blast was meant for Cable)

if he was sooo hell bent on a certain goal...then WHY didn't he just cap Gambit at first sight? Since he would one day possibly betray the X-men....

he is set on killing baby doom bringer...and i do believe she IS the anti-christ....but he is doing it before she has done anything other than soil herself.

 

[Canemacar]

if he was sooo hell bent on a certain goal...then WHY didn't he just cap Gambit at first sight? Since he would one day possibly betray the X-men....

Actually, he did.

 

[Havok83]

Uh, no one forced him to join. There are several kids who attend the school but don't join the X-men.

(Not directed at you BTW)

He didnt join when all that stuff was going down. He went to the school to become a student. When Emma redid the teams, she did not put him on the New X-men, which were the young X-men trainees. Still, kids were dying left and right around him. He was thrown into the action when the Purifiers attacked the school, when the sentinels came after them and when he was sucked into hell. He didnt seek any of that out. He just wanted to be a normal kid, who was loved and accepted despite being part of 2 minority groups. Well he was accepted, but unfortunetly for him, it came at a price

 

[Havok83]

Actually, he did.

no he didnt. Bishop told the X-men, his concerns about Gambit and didnt try to kill him right then and there. He later told Gambit, he was going to watch him bc he didnt trust them and the two got into a fist fight. The fight didnt even last long before they were laughing together and both had calmed down. He wasnt some irrational homicidal maniac, hell bent on killing someone to prevent them from doing something bad in the future, like he was in MC

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, he's got some major post-traumatic stress

 

[El Bastardo]

Don't get me wrong..this new character is a total badass...i just wish it wasn't Bishop. because he is completely unrecognizable.

dude gets ripped from his timeline...is ok with it, loses his sister...twice...is ok with it

baby doom bringer is born and he realizes she will one day kill 180 something humans... he goes apesh_t insane...she must die and anyone that gets in his way of killing her will catch a bullet too....wtf? he caps Forge? for no reason other than to steal his stuff and because he helped Cable and now he his hunting Cable down after popping Xavier in the cranium(but that was accidental..that blast was meant for Cable)

if he was sooo hell bent on a certain goal...then WHY didn't he just cap Gambit at first sight? Since he would one day possibly betray the X-men....

he is set on killing baby doom bringer...and i do believe she IS the anti-christ....but he is doing it before she has done anything other than soil herself.

Yeah, he was stranded from his own crap-time and wound up in a time where he could make a difference and work with people he had looked up to. Okay, check.

He lost his sister, twice. One of those times she was a hologram or something, right? Casualties of war, check.

Right, then baby doom bringer is born, and suddenly, holy crap, the reason he saw his timeline go the way it did, and the reason he was stuck in a detention camp as a kid, and what not, is flat right there. And again, seriously, don't give me the crap of him going to the X-Men and telling them what he knew. They'd have gone at the situation pretty much the exact same way they did.

Bishop thinks the baby is a doom bringer, and hits the situation accordingly, which is so definitely not outside of his character. And he didn't cap Forge. We haven't seen Forge dead, at all. And if Bishop didn't kill him the first time, it's doubtful he killed him the second time.

Is he willing to kill Cable? If he has to, probably, yes. And that is, again, a casualty of war. It's a matter of the ends justifying the means. He didn't want to be on the outs with the X-Men, Bishop that is, but stuff went down wrong, and he is. So there's nothing left but to finish "the mission," as it were, which, yes, can do funky things to his mind. He no longer has a place to go. It's become an obsession.

Personally, I think it's a splendid place for the character to have gone. Nobody was doing much of anything with him, anyway. Gee, more limbo, or actually seeing the character? Theoretically, he can be redeemed, but even if not, he makes a great villain for Cable. And the X-Men really do have such few good villains nowadays, anyway.

 

[gothicFLAVOURS]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but we can see the Phoenix in the eyes of the Messiah baby in one of Cable's preview pics:

 

[Havok83]

Personally, I think it's a splendid place for the character to have gone. Nobody was doing much of anything with him, anyway. Gee, more limbo, or actually seeing the character? Theoretically, he can be redeemed, but even if not, he makes a great villain for Cable. And the X-Men really do have such few good villains nowadays, anyway.

I'll take limbo any day over a character I like getting utterly destroyed . I think most people would

 

[Charlie No-One]

Please be Jean please be Jean

 

[Manic]

Please be a new phoenix
please be a new phoenix

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Spec's gonna love this

 

[El Bastardo]

I'll take limbo any day over a character I like getting utterly destroyed . I think most people would

Cry a bigger river.

If the development is sound, and it is - and no, I don't care that you're going to disagree, because I don't depend on you to have rational thoughts regarding literary worth - then it isn't destruction. It's development, which is, uh, pretty much the opposite of destruction.

 

[Havok83]

Cry a bigger river.

If the development is sound, and it is - and no, I don't care that you're going to disagree, because I don't depend on you to have rational thoughts regarding literary worth - then it isn't destruction. It's development, which is, uh, pretty much the opposite of destruction.

Im not crying. I could care less about Bishop. I feel for his fans though who are pissed at what has gone down with him.

 

[tank girl]

thats some crazy details the dude must have been on meth

 

[Havok83]

thats some crazy details the dude must have been on meth

who u referring to?

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Yeah, he was stranded from his own crap-time and wound up in a time where he could make a difference and work with people he had looked up to. Okay, check.

He lost his sister, twice. One of those times she was a hologram or something, right? Casualties of war, check.

Right, then baby doom bringer is born, and suddenly, holy crap, the reason he saw his timeline go the way it did, and the reason he was stuck in a detention camp as a kid, and what not, is flat right there. And again, seriously, don't give me the crap of him going to the X-Men and telling them what he knew. They'd have gone at the situation pretty much the exact same way they did.

Bishop thinks the baby is a doom bringer, and hits the situation accordingly, which is so definitely not outside of his character. And he didn't cap Forge. We haven't seen Forge dead, at all. And if Bishop didn't kill him the first time, it's doubtful he killed him the second time.

Is he willing to kill Cable? If he has to, probably, yes. And that is, again, a casualty of war. It's a matter of the ends justifying the means. He didn't want to be on the outs with the X-Men, Bishop that is, but stuff went down wrong, and he is. So there's nothing left but to finish "the mission," as it were, which, yes, can do funky things to his mind. He no longer has a place to go. It's become an obsession.

Personally, I think it's a splendid place for the character to have gone. Nobody was doing much of anything with him, anyway. Gee, more limbo, or actually seeing the character? Theoretically, he can be redeemed, but even if not, he makes a great villain for Cable. And the X-Men really do have such few good villains nowadays, anyway.

Cable's gonna beat the crap out of Bishop. t:

 

[El Bastardo]

Cable's gonna beat the crap out of Bishop. t:

I'm right there with you, pal. t:

 

[tank girl]

who u referring to?

cable and the baby, hey that sounds like a pretty nifty tv show

 

[OutcryX]

Yeah, he was stranded from his own crap-time and wound up in a time where he could make a difference and work with people he had looked up to. Okay, check.

He lost his sister, twice. One of those times she was a hologram or something, right? Casualties of war, check.

Right, then baby doom bringer is born, and suddenly, holy crap, the reason he saw his timeline go the way it did, and the reason he was stuck in a detention camp as a kid, and what not, is flat right there. And again, seriously, don't give me the crap of him going to the X-Men and telling them what he knew. They'd have gone at the situation pretty much the exact same way they did.

Bishop thinks the baby is a doom bringer, and hits the situation accordingly, which is so definitely not outside of his character. And he didn't cap Forge. We haven't seen Forge dead, at all. And if Bishop didn't kill him the first time, it's doubtful he killed him the second time.

Is he willing to kill Cable? If he has to, probably, yes. And that is, again, a casualty of war. It's a matter of the ends justifying the means. He didn't want to be on the outs with the X-Men, Bishop that is, but stuff went down wrong, and he is. So there's nothing left but to finish "the mission," as it were, which, yes, can do funky things to his mind. He no longer has a place to go. It's become an obsession.

Personally, I think it's a splendid place for the character to have gone. Nobody was doing much of anything with him, anyway. Gee, more limbo, or actually seeing the character? Theoretically, he can be redeemed, but even if not, he makes a great villain for Cable. And the X-Men really do have such few good villains nowadays, anyway.

i said he capped Forge..apparently twice now..not that he killed..or did I? i'd have to re-read my post

Cable IS NOT going to beat the crap out of Bishop....Bishop will truly manhandle Cable and make him his *****..all while stepping on baby jean..er..doom bringer with his boots

and Shard was a hologram at first, but still retained everything that made her 'Shard'...then she evolved and became a photonic being. She was a mutant photon, lol. and having your sister come back from the dead only to lose her again still should be something that would make one go a little loony. I mean look at Illyana and Peter Rasputin..dude went insane.

and ADDRESS MY GAMBIT point dammit..since you addressed everything else.

and i can agree with you on most things..but NOT Bishop...as he was MY absolute favorite and i don't want him sacrificed to become this next great villain of which you speak.

until then...i hope for a retcon

 

[Manic]

all while stepping on baby jean..er..doom bringer with his boots

It can't be Jean if it's technically a different person born to different parents.

 

[OutcryX]

i know that. it was a dig at everyone that thinks she is.

that and jean wouldnt stop at killing 100-something people...not when she has eaten entire star-systems