The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 5

[LizardMan07]

Yeah, you'd think the only people that would enjoy that kind of thing would be people who are spider-man fans already, who would presumably go see the next film anyway.

 

[psylockolussus]

This is going to be a boring summer movie-wise. Only Guardians and possibly Apes will save it.

Don't forget Trans4mers, How 2 Train Your Dragon and Ninja Turtles.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

You won't get a directors cut until 2016 if they even do that...which I highly doubt they spend the money and time doing.

When was the director's cut (or unleashed edition or whatever they called it) announced for The Wolverine?

I know it came out at the time same time as the theatrical cut DVD, but did we know about it when The Wolverine was still in theaters?

 

[LizardMan07]

That's a good precedent to think about

 

[JKKS085]

And that's another 50%+ drop for the week end (still worse than Spider-Man 3 on the same week end). Movie stands at 192,7M dom and 497,3M os for a WW tally 10 millions shy of 700M.

 

[Erzengel]

Even by this time next week, I don't think they will reach 700 M. It'd take another week after that but it looks like it may be able to coast.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yeah it's going to crawl to 700+mil. Which you know should be a big deal because that's a huge gross but the budget and franchise expectations make it not that great.

 

[chaseter]

are you sure it's 2016?

Yes...promotion for ASM3.

 

[<(o_o)>]

I wouldn't say that, as there has seemingly been plenty of people just staying home, as these films don't quite get their blood going to the tune of a second big weekend. This year's Memorial Day weekend was $70m below last year's cumulative box office domestically.

There is a reason with all these big films we haven't seen a $100m opening weekend, and it isn't competition.

Spidey just isn't as popular anymore & people (GA) are burnt out on it plus there is a shorter time frame each & every time between theatrical & home video release that people are just waiting til then to see it.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Sad days for the ol' webhead. I guess with movies like TA the GA just expects more these days here for the DOM BO and they are proving my point with their wallets

 

[Erzengel]

In NJ, ticket prices for a movie are $13 each.

It's just not worth it to go see a mediocre movie when you have stellar movies like CA or X-Men.

 

[Tobias]

Spidey just isn't as popular anymore & people (GA) are burnt out on it plus there is a shorter time frame each & every time between theatrical & home video release that people are just waiting til then to see it.

I disagree. If anything Spidey is one of only 5 financially viable solo superhero franchises right now (CA, Thor, Batman and IronMan being the other 4).

He is only one of 4 solo franchises to break 700 million WW which makes him one of just 4 top-tier superhero film franchises.

The lesson to be learned with TASM2 is bigger budgets don't guarantee quality and may cause producers and others to get sloppy. When you have to pinch pennies there is much less temptation to waster money. If Cap 2 can be made for 175 million a Spiderman film can surely be made for 200 million.

Then of course the marketing. Again, less is more. Targeted marketing with a smaller budget forces effciences. Thor's marketing budget was far les than TASM2 but arguably more effective.

Spiderman remains, once again, just one of 5 viable franchises but SONY has gotten lazy in managing its resources. If TASM2 had cost 200 million and the marketing budget been tens of millions less the 700 million BO would be looking quite good right now.

 

[Spiderine]

Spidey is just in a unique predicament. I always bring up SM3. That was the film that was supposed to knock it out the park. U had the Harry subplot and black suited Spidey. And it was riding the heels of SM2. Audiences couldn't wait. It was a letdown. Sony rebooted and it lost some of that audience.

This film offered nothing different or unique from what we have seen before. And now that they lost Gwen one of its strongest selling points hard to recover from that.

 

[Red Mask]

This film has currently earned more money worldwide than WB's Man of Steel. That's encouraging. t:

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

What were the budgets on MOS and TASM2?

 

[Red Mask]

What were the budgets on MOS and TASM2?

Amazing Spidey 2 is estimated at $200 million.
Man of Steel was estimated at $225 million.

But we can be sure they're aren't vey accurate.

FYI: Rise of Justice is rumoured to be $130 million so far. All those heroes and it will cost less? Hmmm. Marvel's Avengers cost around $220 million.

 

[Eddie]

Amazing Spidey 2 is estimated at $200 million.
Man of Steel was estimated at $225 million.

But we can be sure they're aren't vey accurate.

FYI: Rise of Justice is rumoured to be $130 million so far. All those heroes and it will cost less? Hmmm. Marvel's Avengers cost around $220 million.

TASM2 is not a $200 million dollar budget movie. TASM cost $230 million, and there's no way that had a bigger budget than the sequel. Sony may be trying to spin this as a $200 million movie (which would put it in the green already), but that $255 million number we heard was probably accurate.

 

[Erzengel]

Try $255 million budget not including marketing.

 

[Donald Thomas]

This film has currently earned more money worldwide than WB's Man of Steel. That's encouraging. t:

Aloha,
Starting May 2, 2014 as of today June 1, 2014
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $192,730,000 27.9%
+ Foreign: $497,300,000 72.1%
= Worldwide: $690,030,000 Box Office Mojo

It becomes a testimony to the character Spider-Man that a movie that some are panning goes to close to 700 mil in one month.All other Spidey movies totals are based upon 4-5 months in the theaters.Like it or not -people ALL OVER THE WORLD are patronizing this movie. Whatever monies Sony spent on marketing, they did to promote the franchise way into the future and not just this one movie. When you think of how the Spider-Man Broadway production was panned only to become very successful, I think Spidey has an appeal that's greater than any one grroup of critics.
Fanboys can make a CBM very successful, but it doesn't mean that a CBM can't be successful without them.

Spidey rules

 

[Erzengel]

If fanboys can make Spidey successful it wouldn't behind Captain America, X-Men and possibly Godzilla in domestic sales.

I will say it's an attestant to Spider-Man's popularity if a mediocre Spider-Man movie can do "as well" as movies that are critically reviewed well hits.

 

[chaseter]

Amazing Spidey 2 is estimated at $200 million.
Man of Steel was estimated at $225 million.

But we can be sure they're aren't vey accurate.

FYI: Rise of Justice is rumoured to be $130 million so far. All those heroes and it will cost less? Hmmm. Marvel's Avengers cost around $220 million.

You got everything wrong except for MoS' budget.

 

[chaseter]

This film has currently earned more money worldwide than WB's Man of Steel. That's encouraging. t:

TASM2 has earned $100 million less domestic than MoS. That's not encouraging.

TASM2 also cost more to make than MoS.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Okay so The Amazing Spider-man 2 made more then Man of Steel, so what? Why didn't make as much as a little film called THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN?

Talking about a movie that came out last year doesn't change the numbers kiddies.

 

[sf2]

I disagree. If anything Spidey is one of only 5 financially viable solo superhero franchises right now (CA, Thor, Batman and IronMan being the other 4).

He is only one of 4 solo franchises to break 700 million WW which makes him one of just 4 top-tier superhero film franchises.

The lesson to be learned with TASM2 is bigger budgets don't guarantee quality and may cause producers and others to get sloppy. When you have to pinch pennies there is much less temptation to waster money. If Cap 2 can be made for 175 million a Spiderman film can surely be made for 200 million.

Then of course the marketing. Again, less is more. Targeted marketing with a smaller budget forces effciences. Thor's marketing budget was far les than TASM2 but arguably more effective.

Spiderman remains, once again, just one of 5 viable franchises but SONY has gotten lazy in managing its resources. If TASM2 had cost 200 million and the marketing budget been tens of millions less the 700 million BO would be looking quite good right now.

exactly. $700M is still a lot of money.

 

[Spiderine]

I am sure Sony is happy about its sequel making less money that its predecessor. Especially when this film was supposed to launch its Spideyverse of spinoffs.