The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 General Discussion - - - - - - - - Part 57

[Perry9]

my accent doesn't change when i get a cold though

andrew just went overboard on the accent imo, it's not that big a deal, but it's noticeable

Again, the way it sounded to me at some points it was as if he had caught a cold. His accent feels like it is changed but let's not forget the

Spoiler

time jump. During all this period, Peter and Harry became good friends and as some people here pointed out, when you spend a lot of time with someone your accent might tend to change when you are around that person. Like every other clip, we are watching this scene out of context.

 

[FN Spider-man]

@ JK do you come on here to complain when there's something to complain about and not comment on the good stuff from earlier clips or trailers, forgive me but the only time i've seen you comment on something is when it looks a little funny or doesn't look to your liking

but even I can agree with the voice but i'll have to see the complete context of why

 

[Joe_Kickass]

For people not liking the accent.

If the movie is really good,these things never matter in the long run
Its only if the movie is bad that people start to nitpick these things

But it all adds up. Why is that even there? Considering the number of times that snippet was probably viewed, to the point where Sony decided to release it to promote the movie, you'd think at least a single person would mention "What the hell is wrong with Peter's voice"?

 

[RT59103]

Ok here's my take...

I've rewatched the scene and I don't think Peter fully trusts Harry at this point, and that's why he sounds and is acting a little different and not very "Peter-like". He's putting on this overly cool, I don't care attitude which we know is an act.

"My dad left a briefcase, that's all i got, a briefcase full of junk, whateva, I dunno, I try not to think about it..."

Of course that's not true, it wasn't junk and he thinks about it all the time. But he's not going to tell Harry...he hasn't seen this guy in ages, and his dad is Norman Osborn!

When you rewatch the scene and don't view it as a purely as a catching up with an old bud scene, it makes more sense why Peter is acting like that

It's just that Garfield's always been very meticulous with Peter's speech and mannerisms, everything little thing he does has a reason, Marc even commented on that many times, everything down to little hand, finger movements. That's why I don't think it was an oops moment on Garfield's part. It it was, and if we caught it, I'm sure Marc would've caught it and made him redo the scene. They do soooo many takes. That's why I don't think it was an inconsistency thing.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

@ JK do you come on here to complain when there's something to complain about and not comment on the good stuff from earlier clips or trailers, forgive me but the only time i've seen you comment on something is when it looks a little funny

What does it matter? I'll speak my mind on here and if you or anyone else doesn't like it then just ignore it. I don't pull criticisms out of thin air, I point them out. Just don't think I'm in the extreme minority, because I'm not. Reactions in general outside of this forum are not quite as positive as the reactions contained within this said forum. Plus, I also find it kind of funny how quickly people tend to change their minds on a certain thing so that they can't see or understand a particular criticism.

 

[Perry9]

Ok here's my take...

I've rewatched the scene and I don't think Peter fully trusts Harry at this point, and that's why he sounds and is acting a little different and not very "Peter-like". He's putting on this this overly cool, I don't care attitude which we know is an act.

"My dad left a briefcase, that's all i got, a briefcase full of junk, whateva, I dunno, I try not to think about it..."

Of course that's not true, it wasn't junk and he thinks about it all the time. But he's not going to tell Harry...he hasn't seen this guy in ages, and his dad is Norman Osborn!

When you rewatch the scene and don't view it as a purely as a catching up with an old bud scene, it makes more sense why Peter is acting like that

It's just that Garfield's always been very meticulous with Peter's speech and mannerisms, everything little thing he does has a reason, Marc even commented on that many times, everything down to little hand, finger movements. That's why I don't think it was an oops moment on Garfield's part. It it was, and if we caught it, I'm sure Marc would've caught it and made him redo the scene. They do soooo many takes. That's why I don't think it was an inconsistency thing.

That actually makes sense. That's the same thing he did with Connors in the first movie. When Connors asked him how you had come up with the equation, Peter said (it was technically a gesture) that he had figured it out himself, when he, in fact, had found it in his dad's briefcase.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Ok here's my take...

I've rewatched the scene and I don't think Peter fully trusts Harry at this point, and that's why he sounds and is acting a little different and not very "Peter-like". He's putting on this overly cool, I don't care attitude which we know is an act.

"My dad left a briefcase, that's all i got, a briefcase full of junk, whateva, I dunno, I try not to think about it..."

Of course that's not true, it wasn't junk and he thinks about it all the time. But he's not going to tell Harry...he hasn't seen this guy in ages, and his dad is Norman Osborn!

When you rewatch the scene and don't view it as a purely as a catching up with an old bud scene, it makes more sense why Peter is acting like that

It's just that Garfield's always been very meticulous with Peter's speech and mannerisms, everything little thing he does has a reason, Marc even commented on that many times, everything down to little hand, finger movements. That's why I don't think it was an oops moment on Garfield's part. It it was, and if we caught it, I'm sure Marc would've caught it and made him redo the scene. They do soooo many takes. That's why I don't think it was an inconsistency thing.

True. All good points. Plus, that's the thing about clips is we're taken to the middle of the scene w/o knowing anything before or after. I didn't think of the reason you came up with; Peter maybe hiding things from Harry.

Why are all of these clips being released so early? Usually it's a little less than a month before release when clips start coming in. Even though it's coming in mid-April overseas, these are still sort of early even for that date.

I think it is because it's being released in a month overseas. It doesn't seem unusual if that's the case.

Does that mean the Daily Bugle Tumblr might release a pic of the Big Man & the Enforcers just as a cool thing for fans, or they might show up in the film as a cameo? Cause they've been talking about them a ton on here, even back when this first started up.

Nah I don't think so. Even though TDB writes these cool in-universe things, I don't take them too seriously. It's cool to mention things like Aleksei, because when we watch the movie having already read these articles, the universe will feel more whole.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Again, the way it sounded to me at some points it was as if he had caught a cold. His accent feels like it is changed but let's not forget the

Spoiler

time jump. During all this period, Peter and Harry became good friends and as some people here pointed out, when you spend a lot of time with someone your accent might tend to change when you are around that person. Like every other clip, we are watching this scene out of context.

You are all way overthinking this. I sincerely doubt there is some meaning behind, it's just something really baffling as to why it made it in. It's like when the first shot of GG was shown in that huge poster with Electro and Rhino, and people here were trying to convince others that GG might have a hood, when he clearly won't. It's a fair criticism, don't try to make some BS excuse for it because it only makes it look even more illogical and glarring.

 

[FN Spider-man]

What does it matter? I'll speak my mind on here and if you or anyone else doesn't like it then just ignore it. I don't pull criticisms out of thin air, I point them out. Just don't think I'm in the extreme minority, because I'm not. Reactions in general outside of this forum are not quite as positive as the reactions contained within this said forum. Plus, I also find it kind of funny how quickly people tend to change their minds on a certain thing so that they can't see or understand a particular criticism.

I'm very well informed but it all depends on where you go like ign or neogaf or boxoffice forums and some others but basically on the most ridiculous things. How about hearing something you like for a change

 

[roshafer]

ok here's my take...

I've rewatched the scene and i don't think peter fully trusts harry at this point, and that's why he sounds and is acting a little different and not very "peter-like". He's putting on this overly cool, i don't care attitude which we know is an act.

"my dad left a briefcase, that's all i got, a briefcase full of junk, whateva, i dunno, i try not to think about it..."

of course that's not true, it wasn't junk and he thinks about it all the time. But he's not going to tell harry...he hasn't seen this guy in ages, and his dad is norman osborn!

When you rewatch the scene and don't view it as a purely as a catching up with an old bud scene, it makes more sense why peter is acting like that

it's just that garfield's always been very meticulous with peter's speech and mannerisms, everything little thing he does has a reason, marc even commented on that many times, everything down to little hand, finger movements. That's why i don't think it was an oops moment on garfield's part. It it was, and if we caught it, i'm sure marc would've caught it and made him redo the scene. They do soooo many takes. That's why i don't think it was an inconsistency thing.

this ^^^

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Yeah, he's definitely behaving differently and might be putting on an act.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Ok here's my take...

I've rewatched the scene and I don't think Peter fully trusts Harry at this point, and that's why he sounds and is acting a little different and not very "Peter-like". He's putting on this overly cool, I don't care attitude which we know is an act.

"My dad left a briefcase, that's all i got, a briefcase full of junk, whateva, I dunno, I try not to think about it..."

Of course that's not true, it wasn't junk and he thinks about it all the time. But he's not going to tell Harry...he hasn't seen this guy in ages, and his dad is Norman Osborn!

When you rewatch the scene and don't view it as a purely as a catching up with an old bud scene, it makes more sense why Peter is acting like that

It's just that Garfield's always been very meticulous with Peter's speech and mannerisms, everything little thing he does has a reason, Marc even commented on that many times, everything down to little hand, finger movements. That's why I don't think it was an oops moment on Garfield's part. It it was, and if we caught it, I'm sure Marc would've caught it and made him redo the scene. They do soooo many takes. That's why I don't think it was an inconsistency thing.

But to most people it just sounds stupid. No one is going to read into something like that, if you're going to be subtle make sure it's something that is otherwise
unnoticeable to most people. It's like if Peter started scratching his crotch as Spider-Man out of nowhere and it was actually insinuating to to the fact that Peter and Gwen had "done it". It still just looks stupid.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

I'm very well informed but it all depends on where you go like ign or neogaf or boxoffice forums and some others but basically on the most ridiculous things. How about hearing something you like for a change

I like that Spider-Man isn't being a d*ck towards Max. That's about it. The colors look nice, but some of the CGI in the recent TV Spots still looks questionable, like that new shot with Spidey swinging the manhole cover at Rhino. Hopefully they're just reusing old clips and have actually improved upon them by now.

 

[Perry9]

You are all way overthinking this. I sincerely doubt there is some meaning behind, it's just something really baffling as to why it made it in. It's like when the first shot of GG was shown in that huge poster with Electro and Rhino, and people here were trying to convince others that GG might have a hood, when he clearly won't. It's a fair criticism, don't try to make some BS excuse for it because it only makes it look even more illogical and glarring.

I'm not the only one who says that. There are other people here that pointed out that it is possible someone's accent might change depending on the person that he is interacting with. A person above proposed something that makes even more sense, so i will accept that until the movie comes out. Webb and Garfield are indeed very protective with the character and this was definitely something intentional. It's not an excuse, it's a possible explanation to why his accent was changed. And what is your problem with our overanalyzing it? If you don't want to contribute to the conversation you can always leave the board.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Have you really, or are you just saying that because this movie contains it? Because that's awfully convienent lol

Haha, I started coming around at least a year ago. Maybe longer now.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Well... Flash did throw a basketball at his head. And beat him up when he tried to stand up for that other kid. These days it doesn't really matter so much what you look like that makes you a target. It's how you act. When I was super shy I got picked on ALL THE TIME. Because I was quiet. I didn't want to talk to anyone. And when I did try to I was still picked on because "Oh, the quiet kid is talking now. HAHAHA." But when I started building my confidence it stopped. I got girlfriends. I went to parties. It was a lot better.

I was the same. A shy, quiet, skinny kid in high school and I got the same kind of treatment. Picked on when I was quiet and then picked on when I tried to speak for the same reasons, "oh look! the quiet kid is speaking!" That all changed though when I hit my growth spurt and got some confidence. I can see how Peter would go thru the same sort of transition and it makes sense that his whole attitudes would change to point of even becoming cocky or arrogant. He's a very bright kid but still needs that lesson in responsibility over again.

 

[mayo23]

But to most people it just sounds stupid. No one is going to read into something like that, if you're going to be subtle make sure it's something that is otherwise
unnoticeable to most people. It's like if Peter started scratching his crotch as Spider-Man out of nowhere and it was actually insinuating to to the fact that Peter and Gwen had "done it". It still just looks stupid.

And yet you're still going on about it like you've already seen the film and know the context of where this scene takes place. Good grief. give it a rest.

 

[RT59103]

But to most people it just sounds stupid. No one is going to read into something like that, if you're going to be subtle make sure it's something that is otherwise unnoticeable to most people.

But when ppl watch the movie, we'll have context - we'll see the scenes before this clip and the scenes afterwards. It'll make sense.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

I didnt like the parents subplot because it fundamentally undermined one of the unique aspects of Peter Parkers character: he was just a regular kid from Queens. He wasnt a long lost prince, or an alien, or a demi-god, or a billionaires son. He wasnt a legacy kid. He was from humble origins. He only had what his aunt and uncle taught him, the powers he stumbled into, and his own ingenuity. It made him the quintessential Marvel hero - not to mention an analog for the American Dream - and a stark contrast with some of their other heavy hitters as well as the DC heroes. Now it's like: well of course he's a science genius, his dad was too.

It also smacks of nepotism, given its his inroad to working with Dr. Connors. He stole some other kid's spot after all, and wouldve likely gotten the boot if it werent for his dad's previous relationships (not to mention his genius genes and his formula).

All that said, they made a big deal about his parents and the formula and the conspiracy surrounding their deaths. Dropping/ignoring it was never in the cards. They have to see it through now.

 

[FN Spider-man]

I like that Spider-Man isn't being a d*ck towards Max. That's about it. The colors look nice, but some of the CGI in the recent TV Spots still looks questionable, like that new shot with Spidey swinging the manhole cover at Rhino. Hopefully they're just reusing old clips and have actually improved upon them by now.

I'm sure that it will all be ready for the time when the movie comes out, but i've also heard that it looks much better on the big screen instead of on computer screens but I have yet to go to the movies and last night's scenes were awesome

 

[SpeterMan3]

@RT59103 Agreed. I don't think he really trusts him either.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

I'm sure that it will all be ready for the time when the movie comes out, but i've also heard that it looks much better on the big screen instead of on computer screens but I have yet to go to the movies and last night's scenes were awesome

Pretty much, it's made to be seen on the big screen, it's like Avatar, I'm sure it looks plenty fake if you watch it on a tiny screen, it just doesn't do it justice. The theatrical experience, there's nothing better.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I'm sure that it will all be ready for the time when the movie comes out, but i've also heard that it looks much better on the big screen instead of on computer screens but I have yet to go to the movies and last night's scenes were awesome

Seeing the trailer on the big screen there was a very notable difference in the cgi compared to my computer. The cgi looked impressive. Based on what I saw, I'm not the least bit worried that it won't be good. But...like any other production there will be that spectrum for the cgi--some will be great as in you can't tell it's cgi, most will probably fall into the good or average cgi for this type of production and then there will be some or just a few shots that fall into the poor category.

And, Teekay's buddy that saw the rough cut of the film said that he thought the cgi was rock solid throughout.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

But when ppl watch the movie, we'll have context - we'll see the scenes before this clip and the scenes afterwards. It'll make sense.

How do you know that it'll make sense though? It could be an isolated incident.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

I'm not the only one who says that. There are other people here that pointed out that it is possible someone's accent might change depending on the person that he is interacting with. A person above proposed something that makes even more sense, so i will accept that until the movie comes out. Webb and Garfield are indeed very protective with the character and this was definitely something intentional. It's not an excuse, it's a possible explanation to why his accent was changed. And what is your problem with our overanalyzing it? If you don't want to contribute to the conversation you can always leave the board.

But it doesn't really make any sense considering that he talks normally with Harry in other scenes, and given the proposed context of this scene, the met previously at what I'm guessing is the Osborn manor where they reintroduce themselves to each other, and Peter seems to be talking just find. He just sounds like he's slurring his words here or something.