The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 5

[Spider-Fan]

I think romance should be a strong point of a Spider-Man film. So should his everyday struggles. Those are the core of Spider-Man. Honestly, TASM2 gets much of that right. It is just the film overcrowds itself with sub plots that sort of suck. The parents sub plot ends poorly, no one cares about Max Dillon's plight, Harry's story seems rushed, etc. This film could have been a home run if they didn't shoe horn so much into the movie, and/or gave better payoff to what was there. As it stands, all of the good elements share too much time with crappier stories. Thus, the good ones don't get the proper time or the desired impact.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Yep. I doesn't verge on 'chick flick' but there's a particular intimacy about the relationships in Spider-Man.

Exactly. Spider-Man: Blue is a perfect example of Spider-Man's romance at its best.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think romance should be a strong point of a Spider-Man film. So should his everyday struggles. Those are the core of Spider-Man. Honestly, TASM2 gets much of that right. It is just the film overcrowds itself with sub plots that sort of suck. The parents sub plot ends poorly, no one cares about Max Dillon's plight, Harry's story seems rushed, etc. This film could have been a home run if they didn't shoe horn so much into the movie, and/or gave better payoff to what was there. As it stands, all of the good elements share too much time with crappier stories. Thus, the good ones don't get the proper time or the desired impact.

I really like the parents storyline but I see no reason why it wasn't resolved in TASM1.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I really like the parents storyline but I see no reason why it wasn't resolved in TASM1.

It could have been interesting, but that subway scene makes no sense. Who was Richard Parker sending this message to? It's an abandoned station no one uses. Who was going to use it? Who was this intended for? It makes no logical sense. Also, we get 2 films to develop a sub plot that just explains the part about his blood? Did that need 2 films?

 

[AF3619]

It could have been interesting, but that subway scene makes no sense. Who was Richard Parker sending this message to? It's an abandoned station no one uses. Who was going to use it? Who was this intended for? It makes no logical sense. Also, we get 2 films to develop a sub plot that just explains the part about his blood? Did that need 2 films?

i bet they just wanted to drag it for sequel begging, one think SHOULD´VE resolved was [BLACKOUT]CATCH UNCLE BEN´S KILLER![/BLACKOUT]

 

[Picard Sisko]

It could have been interesting, but that subway scene makes no sense. Who was Richard Parker sending this message to? It's an abandoned station no one uses. Who was going to use it? Who was this intended for? It makes no logical sense. Also, we get 2 films to develop a sub plot that just explains the part about his blood? Did that need 2 films?

I thought the parents storyline was very interesting (I'm a fan of those parents storylines from the comics and sinister six novels), but I just think they could have resolved it in the first movie. That way the first movie would have resolved the main plot being advertised, "the untold story," and there would have been less going on in TASM2.

 

[AnneFan]

In a sense, Richard was sending the message to himself, to his secret work station. It's one of the few places he had left that wasn't shut down or being watched, because it was secret. If the laptop was to be destroyed, which it was, his research was going to exist in some form by his file transfer - even if nobody other than himself knew about it. If someone else found it, great. Death got in the way.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think Richard was just keeping a record in case someone figured out where his hideout was.

 

[Visualiza]

Yep. It doesn't verge on 'chick flick' but there's a particular intimacy about the relationships in Spider-Man.

Well, what can I say? I think it does. Their relationship didn't have a properly executed arc in this movie, and when coupled with their unnaturally forced beginnings, it comes off as a hopeless missed opportunity for me.

They were cute together in the moment, but the plot never developed in a manner that allowed their romance to flow naturally from scene to scene.

In other words, it reminded me a lot of Zack Snyder's action sequences. They look great on their own, but don't exactly come together well when woven into a story.

 

[daddydivine]

Well, what can I say? I think it does. Their relationship didn't have a properly executed arc in this movie, and when coupled with their unnaturally forced beginnings, it comes off as a hopeless missed opportunity for me.

They were cute together in the moment, but the plot never developed in a manner that allowed their romance to flow naturally from scene to scene.

In other words, it reminded me a lot of Zack Snyder's action sequences. They look great on their own, but don't exactly come together well when woven into a story.

Spend too much time on romance and you have Spiderman 2 Twilight. Of all the issues I have with the movie the romance was done better than 99% of the CBM's out there.

 

[Visualiza]

Spend too much time on romance and you have Spiderman 2 Twilight. Of all the issues I have with the movie the romance was done better than 99% of the CBM's out there.

That's exactly my point; this movie did spend too much time on romance, but didn't go anywhere meaningful with it. This movie deserves all of the Twilight comparisons that the first one received.

 

[AnneFan]

The movie spent a lot of time on the romance because it was doomed. Because of this I'd rather have too much time between them than too few. Gwen and Peter weren't going anywhere meaningful because they had no future together. Fate intervened. The only meaning it has is in regards to Peter. He will carry a part of her, Ben, Captain Stacy and his parents, with him as he continues his fight on crime.

 

[Visualiza]

The movie spent a lot of time on the romance because it was doomed. Because of this I'd rather have too much time between them than too few. Gwen and Peter weren't going anywhere meaningful because they had no future together. Fate intervened. The only meaning it has is in regards to Peter. He will carry a part of her, Ben, Captain Stacy and his parents, with him as he continues his fight on crime.

Sounds great the way you've put it, I just wish the movie itself portrayed it as gracefully. It felt very hollow and dry for me, and when the climactic moment finally arrived, and I know I'm in the minority here, it didn't have much impact at all. I attribute this partly to the heavy-handed foreshadowing that was present throughout the duration; it just seemed to linger on and on without rhyme or reason.

 

[chaseter]

Where did Richard Parker get the money to build a secret lab that complex? Where was he getting electricity from?

 

[Picard Sisko]

Where did Richard Parker get the money to build a secret lab that complex? Where was he getting electricity from?

Suspend your disbelief! How was Doc Ock able to buy all the parts he needed and ship them to an abandoned warehouse? Why did he say Tritium is hard to find when apparently that is completely false?

 

[spider-neil]

Where did Richard Parker get the money to build a secret lab that complex? Where was he getting electricity from?

How did Bruce Wayne get all the equipment down in the caves all by himself?

Did Tony really build the armour AND a complex machine to get him in and out of that armour in what looked like weeks?

The logistics of flying air craft carrier just don't bear thinking about.

I can go on. Richard Parker lives in a universe where Spider-Man sticks to walls and is strong enough to lift cars, if you can accept that you pretty much have to go along with everything else.

 

[The Guard]

This was horrible. I just got out of the theater 30 mins ago and I couldn't figure why this was so bad, even though I loved the first film. Then I found this article and it explained everything perfectly



Like I said earlier, I loved the first movie! LOVED IT! But this sums up what I saw earlier tonight. A convoluted mess. My friend who knows nothing of the comics walke dout and said WTF did I just watch? He even said after Cap 2 he thought Marvel was doing the best stuff in movies and this fell short so I had to explain that this is not Marvel Studios.

I am so disapointed in this that I will treat Sony's Amazing Spiderman like I treat Fox's X-men and that is a lifetime ban on getting any money from my wallet!

That is the funniest thing I've read all week.

Where did you find this article?

 

[Figs]

Just got home and I have to say that I really liked the movie. Just some quick thoughts...

I think the comparisons to Batman Forever and Batman & Robin are way off. The only complaints I really agree with are the ones about the villains kind of being thrown in just to set up the Sinister Six and there was never a true plot because of that. I still think this series would have benefited by not including his parents and if they had included Harry Osborne in the first film in some way.

The doctor at Ravencroft was silly but I thought he was going to be much worse after reading all the people's reviews who were crying bloody murder. Same with Max before he becomes Electro. The scene with him in his apartment was fairly godawful but not as cringe worthy as I was expecting. I barely noticed the itsy bitsy spider tune for some reason and even then, it wasn't nearly as bad as the asian woman singing the old school Spidey tune in Spider-Man 2.

The action was really good but the film could have used one more action set piece. The film did drag but if they would have removed scenes involving Peter's parents the movie would have flowed better.

Overall I wasn't disappointed leaving the theater. I do feel bad for all the Spider-Man fans that hated this one but I found it to be fun.

3.5/5

 

[chaseter]

How did Bruce Wayne get all the equipment down in the caves all by himself?

Did Tony really build the armour AND a complex machine to get him in and out of that armour in what looked like weeks?

The logistics of flying air craft carrier just don't bear thinking about.

I can go on. Richard Parker lives in a universe where Spider-Man sticks to walls and is strong enough to lift cars, if you can accept that you pretty much have to go along with everything else.

Yeah those examples make sense...ya know...Bruce and Tony being billionaires and Richard Parker also being a billionaire.

Please go on.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

i give it a 9 out of 10.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

The romance is one of the elements that makes Spider-Man more interesting than many of the other superheroes.

Yep. I doesn't verge on 'chick flick' but there's a particular intimacy about the relationships in Spider-Man.

Intimate relationships is indeed a big part of the Spider-Man lore. I'm glad they focused on Peter and Gwen.

The movie spent a lot of time on the romance because it was doomed. Because of this I'd rather have too much time between them than too few. Gwen and Peter weren't going anywhere meaningful because they had no future together. Fate intervened. The only meaning it has is in regards to Peter. He will carry a part of her, Ben, Captain Stacy and his parents, with him as he continues his fight on crime.

 

[spider-neil]

Yeah those examples make sense...ya know...Bruce and Tony being billionaires and Richard Parker also being a billionaire.

Please go on.

Bruce is a billionaire and but is human, there is no way on this earth he could have brought all that equipment to the caves all by himself and if he had involved others suspecions would have been raised as to why a) this eqipement is needed in CAVE and b) is a few hundred metres from Wayne manor.

The devise Tony used to remove the armour looks every bit as complex as the armour itself. Said devise looked like it took up the entire basement of his garage. Tony had time to build this AND 'THE' most sophisticated suit of armour ever? And what about the armour itself? Does it have a neural interface that allows him to move the armour with his mind? If not how does he control different the aspects of the armour such as simply answering the phone? So, a) Tony had time to build a devise (the size of his garage basement) to the remove his armour b) implement the means to control the armour with his mind and c) build THE most sophisticated milatary piece of technological hardware EVER? All in the space of a few weeks.

You brush over the leaps of logic in the Stark and Wayne universe and then question the admitedly far fetched logic in the Parker universe.

 

[Casius--J]

Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like I was coming at you with an argument, that wasn't my intention. I was just relaying my thoughts on those topics, but it looks like we agree on them so that's good.

No it's fine, I didn't take it like that. I just wanted to be clear that I no longer had those issues the second time around for anyone else that may read what I wrote

 

[chaseter]

Richard Parker is a billionaire according to spider-neil. If not, then I must suspend my disbeliefs that he could totally build that elaborate underground lab from Home Depot supplies and that he spent every extra cent he had on tech for his lab, leaving his only son or his brother and sister in law no money to raise his kid.

But how did Bruce and Alfred carry down heavy equipment into a cave with an entrance that the batmobile can dive in and out of he asks to prove a point................. : /

 

[Picard Sisko]

Richard Parker is a billionaire according to spider-neil. If not, then I must suspend my disbeliefs that he could totally build that elaborate underground lab from Home Depot supplies and that he spent every extra cent he had on tech for his lab, leaving his only son or his brother and sister in law no money to raise his kid.

You're nitpicking at this point. We can find a number of things that don't make too much sense in just about any film.