The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - User Review Thread! - SPOILERS! - Part 5

[Dominikkus]

That would have been better but would have been even better than that is to have not included the parents subplot at all.

I thought the parents' storyline was absolutely necessary. I loved it.

 

[Dominikkus]

To each their own then. It fits in well with the whole Oscorp angle as Figs pointed out.

This. I completely agree.

 

[Nemeres]

There was resolution for Peter as he got confirm from the horse's mouth he wasn't dumped on his aunt and uncle because his parents didn't love him.

That's true. I have to wonder, though, why is that necessary in a Spider-Man film? Spider-Man is about so many other issues like responsibility, guilt, heroism, what have you... since when is "abandonment issues" a part of the Spidey equation? I'd argue that it's not, and even less when it entails sidestepping the significance of Uncle Ben.

 

[Dominikkus]

It may not play a huge role in his character, but it affects Peter. Just because he has responsibility and is a superhero now doesn't mean he doesn't have a real life away from the suit. His parents and his uncle still have an affect on Peter and essentially on Spiderman.

 

[BestGirl]

They should have at the very least cut out the opening plane sequence. That whole scene was there just to show Richard uploading that recording, what a waste of screentime. Without that scene, the part where Parker finds his little underground lab and watches the video would have played out fine.

It was probably left in due to the shortness of the other action sequences.

 

[Par Avion]

That's true. I have to wonder, though, why is that necessary in a Spider-Man film? Spider-Man is about so many other issues like responsibility, guilt, heroism, what have you... since when is "abandonment issues" a part of the Spidey equation? I'd argue that it's not, and even less when it entails sidestepping the significance of Uncle Ben.

Since all the other issues were covered effectively in the previous trilogy, and they needed a new conceit to sell and give meaning to a series being rebooted after 5 years. In a nutshell.

 

[Figs]

It was probably left in due to the shortness of the other action sequences.

I wouldn't be surprised. The movie could have used at least one more action scene between Spidey and a villain. I think Paul's screentime was fine as Rhino since he was just there to set him up for the Sinister Six but the fight with GG should have been longer.

I really enjoyed this movie, it was a lot of fun. Similar to Man of Steel, I agree with a few of the complaints but the majority are nitpicks. Considering some of the nitpicks are towards things other films have had, yet I don't remember as much backlash towards those films.

 

[Frodo]

Since all the other issues were covered effectively in the previous trilogy, and they needed a new conceit to sell and give meaning to a series being rebooted after 5 years. In a nutshell.

In that sense they were trying to do what Nolan did for Batman . The difference was Nolan came at his version in a radically different approach and for the most part, focus than the original series. ASM still had some of the creative forces from the previous series and didn't want to stray too much from the themes of the original films. They couldn't make as fresh a break as say Nolan could or Snyder from Donner. Then again, inherent in the character are themes which are constant so you can't really throw out everything because the previous series did . I think in retrospect the reboot was too soon . Then again if you have the right talent and imagination, it can work.

 

[Par Avion]

In that sense they were trying to do what Nolan did for Batman . The difference was Nolan came at his version in a radically different approach and for the most part, focus than the original series. ASM still had some of the creative forces from the previous series and didn't want to stray too much from the themes of the original films. They couldn't make as fresh a break as say Nolan could or Snyder from Donner. Then again, inherent in the character are themes which are constant so you can't really throw out everything because the previous series did . I think in retrospect the reboot was too soon . Then again if you have the right talent and imagination, it can work.

Absolutely. I like Marc Webb, and he seems like a cool guy, but I just don't think someone with only one feature (500 DoS- which had a great script), was right for helming one of the biggest franchises in the world.

Also, totally agree about themes inherent to the core of the character that must be represented if there is to be any accuracy or validity to said interpretation. Nolan got it right. Snyder got it wrong. Webb falls somewhere in between...

 

[113]

Much like MoS I don't understand how TASM2 has gotten so many negative reviews thrown at it. I finally saw it today, and while I have my issues with certain elements I enjoyed the film overall. I liked it a lot more than the first TASM actually; and I didn't hate that film at all.

I chalk up the negativity to probably a bit of Spiderman fatigue generally. And to be honest I am/was a bit Spidey fatigued myself despite loving the character. But honestly, TASM2 has re-engaged, me and I can't wait to see more.

 

[Figs]

Much like MoS I don't understand how TASM2 has gotten so many negative reviews thrown at it. I finally saw it today, and while I have my issues with certain elements I enjoyed the film overall. I liked it a lot more than the first TASM actually; and I didn't hate that film at all.

This pretty much what I posted the other night after having finally watched the film. It has it's issues like all comic films but the rest of the complaints(majority from what I've seen)are biased nitpicks. I would make some comparisons on why they're biased but I don't want to get banned.

 

[SpideyK]

No doubt there's bias going on.

For instance, how ASM2 gets more flack than Thor: TDW, is beyond me.

 

[Figs]

No doubt there's bias going on.

For instance, how ASM2 gets more flack than Thor: TDW, is beyond me.

Well to be honest Thor did get quite a bit of **** as well.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Lets not act as if TDW got 85% on RT with an average rating of 7.2.

I actually liked the movie (TASM2) but the score does not surprise me AT ALL.

 

[GuestStar2004]

While I thought Thor 2 was quite cheesy with its humour I actually quite liked it the film

As for the parents plot in TASM2 they should have left it till th 3rd for the revelation while the 2nd could hav been the mystery

 

[SpideyK]

Well to be honest Thor did get quite a bit of **** as well.

Damn, you're right. I hadn't checked the Metascore on TDW since it came out. I just never got any impression that people disliked the movie when it first came out.

Frankly, the initial ASM2 reception has been f***ing horrendous. If I cared just a little more what other people thought, I'd probably be heartbroken.

 

[Human Torch]

That's true. I have to wonder, though, why is that necessary in a Spider-Man film? Spider-Man is about so many other issues like responsibility, guilt, heroism, what have you... since when is "abandonment issues" a part of the Spidey equation? I'd argue that it's not, and even less when it entails sidestepping the significance of Uncle Ben.

Yeah,I mean,I don't have a problem with them taking the approach to the parents thing,but they certainly didn't need to drag it out two movies.It should've been wrapped up in the first.I didn't find it all that interesting,myself.

 

[Human Torch]

In that sense they were trying to do what Nolan did for Batman . The difference was Nolan came at his version in a radically different approach and for the most part, focus than the original series. ASM still had some of the creative forces from the previous series and didn't want to stray too much from the themes of the original films. They couldn't make as fresh a break as say Nolan could or Snyder from Donner. Then again, inherent in the character are themes which are constant so you can't really throw out everything because the previous series did . I think in retrospect the reboot was too soon . Then again if you have the right talent and imagination, it can work.

The difference is,Nolan's take was actually more faithful to the source material than Burton.So there was no real problem retreading the origin.On the other hand,Raimi's first film gave us the origin pretty much in spades.The reboot couldn't help but look inferior (origin wise) to the first.

And you can't really bring the same "grounded" take to Spider-Man that Nolan did for Batman,because Spidey's rogues are inherently more colorful & fantastical than Batman's.

 

[Frodo]

I think MOS got a lot of flack because it was shaking up the status quo in terms how the story was told and presented. ASM 2 is getting it for trying to do too many things at once and not really doing anyone of them successfully save the Peter /Gwen stuff. I think MOS was trying to be radical, while ASM 2 tried to have its cake and eat it too. It wanted to world build, return to the Raimi style, be 500 Days of Summer, continue the threads from ASM, yet be this summer action fest .I guess its a question of whether its faults are big enough to consider it a failure or is the attempt good enough that you give it a pass.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Damn, you're right. I hadn't checked the Metascore on TDW since it came out. I just never got any impression that people disliked the movie when it first came out.

I remember it was getting good things being said about Thor 2, I was shocked when I see how low it was

 

[SpideyK]

Yeah, me too.

 

[Figs]

Damn, you're right. I hadn't checked the Metascore on TDW since it came out. I just never got any impression that people disliked the movie when it first came out.

Frankly, the initial ASM2 reception has been f***ing horrendous. If I cared just a little more what other people thought, I'd probably be heartbroken.

Same here. I won't judge a film until I've seen it myself but the amount of fans and critics trashing the film had me bummed that it truly was going to be a piece of ****. I'm glad I was pleasantly surprised. Like I said in a past post, it's not even close to being on the level of Batman & Robin. As far as Batman Forever, the scene with Jamie Foxx in his apartment was similar to Jim Carrey and the doctor at Ravencroft was overdoing it a bit(another thing people highly exaggerated) but that was pretty much it as far as comparisons go for me.

Honestly, while some people do have valid complaints that I agree with, I'm starting to wonder if people are giving this movie so much **** because it was a bit lighter in tone and not as dark as the first ASM. Basically it wasn't what they were expecting and they were put off by it. I'm starting to think that's where some of the hate is coming from because I didn't find it to be as cheesy or over the top as most people, it was a fun film despite dragging a bit due to the scenes involving Peter's Dad. To be brutally honest, it was the lighter tone and approach similar to Raimi's films that made it feel more like the comics than the first ASM.

 

[OcStat]

Frankly, the initial ASM2 reception has been f***ing horrendous. If I cared just a little more what other people thought, I'd probably be heartbroken.

The response has been a bit of a letdown. Especially since it seems to be forming so many peoples opinions of the movie, with those people not even watching it! I've said before the internet breeds negativity, and all it takes is one reviewer to say "Oh my god, this is like Batman & Robin status!" for a bunch of folks fall in line and say, "yeah, it is!"

Granted, if you saw the movie for yourself and didn't like it, that's cool.

I for one, can't wait until Spider-Man has a movie that reminds everyone he really is the greatest superhero we have, reclaim his #1 spot on the total gross charts, and puts all the other heroes back in their place.

(I'm a big Spider-Man fan, in case you couldn't notice)

 

[SpideyK]

Same here. I won't judge a film until I've seen it myself but the amount of fans and critics trashing the film had me bummed that it truly was going to be a piece of ****. I'm glad I was pleasantly surprised. Like I said in a past post, it's not even close to being on the level of Batman & Robin. As far as Batman Forever, the scene with Jamie Foxx in his apartment was similar to Jim Carrey and the doctor at Ravencroft was overdoing it a bit(another thing people highly exaggerated) but that was pretty much it as far as comparisons go for me.

Honestly, while some people do have valid complaints that I agree with, I'm starting to wonder if people are giving this movie so much **** because it was a bit lighter in tone and not as dark as the first ASM. Basically it wasn't what they were expecting and they were put off by it. I'm starting to think that's where some of the hate is coming from because I didn't find it to be as cheesy or over the top as most people, it was a fun film despite dragging a bit due to the scenes involving Peter's Dad. To be brutally honest, it was the lighter tone and approach similar to Raimi's films that made it feel more like the comics than the first ASM.

Couldn't agree more, great post, dude.

People shat on ASM for being too dark, and now people are ****ting on ASM2 for being too light, essentially. Ridiculous is what it is.

And watching the newly released BTS stuff from ImageWorks, I really got to appreciate the visuals of the movie even more. It's almost scary how close they are to the look of the USM comics, and the CGI is some of the best I've ever seen.

 

[Human Torch]

I think there's a tendency these days to make films out to be "greatest film eva!!!!11!" or "worst piece of crap eva!!!11!"The truth is this is a good film.Very flawed,but a good film.

In my review I likened it in many ways to Batman Forever,Iron Man 2 and Spider-Man 3.But the fact is I really liked those movies.I'd say they are favorites,despite them having one thing in common: They are all flawed. So it seems a common theme that, if a movie isn't an outright masterpiece,it usually gets put in the "Disappointments" category.