The Amazing Spider-Man 2 vs Thor: The Dark World

[spiderman2]

A better love story or better swing doesn't negate the villains in TASM2.

I'm not going to begrudge people for having their favorite movies.

However, there's usually a consensus about which CBM are top shelf ones and TASM2 is at best divisive.

I am not saying it negates things. What I am saying is that there are things it dose better and there are things that sm 1-3 do better but with the way people react you would think that sm 1-3 was better at ever thing and the villains are not has bad has people say they are.

 

[Erzengel]

I dunno, they may not be as bad as people say, but on the other side, maybe they aren't as good as a few people on here are saying.

 

[spiderman2]

I dunno, they may not be as bad as people say, but on the other side, maybe they aren't as good as a few people on here are saying.

I don't think they are the worst CBM villains but I don't think they are the best like Joker dark knight, Doc OCK sm2 ect. I would say the villains are middle of the ground CBM villains.

 

[Erzengel]

So you just want people to grade TASM2, it's story and villains as a C- and not the D or F grades you see?

 

[spiderman2]

So you just want people to grade TASM2, it's story and villains as a C- and not the D or F grades you see?

I don't think the villains or the story are a C- more like b+.

 

[Snow Queen]

The villains aren't the strongest point of that film, but I didn't find them as bad as some did. They weren't bad, weren't great, they were...okay. They exist really and that's about all I can say about them. Except Rhino but he wasn't much of a villain, though he did suck.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I think the execution of the ideas in TAS-M2 (and frankly, just some of the ideas themselves, like Harry needing Spider-Man's blood... just cause) is poor but overall, I saw the film as a natural evolution for the most part, with the Electro stuff just baffling the hell out of me. It did deliver on the inner lives and relationship stuff with Gwen and Peter, and those last few minutes of the film ALMOST make up for the messy elements that came before (this includes the continuation of the parent stuff which... I just didn't care about.) It's a very uneven film. Thor's sequel on the other hand was just off putting from the start. It begins with the END of a story that is already more interesting than all the combined minutes that come after. Thor, going from realm to realm, leading the armies of Asgard to quell uprisings and banditry that has popped up due to the Bifrost being destroyed for some time? Acting as a leader and ambassador from the All Father? That would have been interesting to say the least. But that's not to be. Instead we get time WASTED on Jane's sad sack date, Selvig being "funny" crazy, Kat Dennings doing here schtick WAY too much and a main plot that is pushed forward by two of the dullest written villains imaginable in Kurse and Mal. (Which is a shame as those two from the comics have a lot of potential) All the action was lackluster, with the only time our hero gets to register in the story as a full fledged character being when he shares time with Loki. We get a death that doesn't resonate and a finale that was far more interested in making me laugh than filling me with awe or excitement. While TAS-M2 made me angry at times, TDW did it FAR more, and more often.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

A better love story or better swing doesn't negate the villains in TASM2.

I'm not going to begrudge people for having their favorite movies.

However, there's usually a consensus about which CBM are top shelf ones and TASM2 is at best divisive.

Agreed, and the new movies are bound to have better swinging as they can utilise more modern CGI, that is not something you can hold against the old movies at all in my eyes.

 

[eon001]

Didn't realize so many people disliked Thor 2. I've never been a big fan of the Thor movies myself, but I can't honestly say I hate them. That being said, I'm one of the few people that enjoyed TASM2 despite it's flaws. I've seen it multiple times since it was released and I haven't even thought about watching Thor 2.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Didn't realize so many people disliked Thor 2. I've never been a big fan of the Thor movies myself, but I can't honestly say I hate them. That being said, I'm one of the few people that enjoyed TASM2 despite it's flaws. I've seen it multiple times since it was released and I haven't even thought about watching Thor 2.

I love the first Thor movie, think it's best phase 1 movie myself and one of the best MCU movies in general. The sequel was such a disappointment though.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Thor's sequel on the other hand was just off putting from the start. It begins with the END of a story that is already more interesting than all the combined minutes that come after. Thor, going from realm to realm, leading the armies of Asgard to quell uprisings and banditry that has popped up due to the Bifrost being destroyed for some time? Acting as a leader and ambassador from the All Father? That would have been interesting to say the least. But that's not to be.

This idea would have been more interesting, but maybe the studio did not want something that action packed as a follow up to Thor's story after the Avengers.
Iron Man 3 was ridiculously action packed though.

 

[The Endless]

The Dark World is in comic book terms... a filler issue. I don't think Marvel really knew what to do with that film. It's like it was made because they were obligated to make it, not because they felt they had a good story to tell. Taylor was clearly out of his depth as well.

 

[Erzengel]

I don't think the villains or the story are a C- more like b+.

B+ is a long pendulum swing.

Saying a movie isn't as bad as people are making it out to be and then saying it's a B+, then saying it's middle of the road/average.

 

[The Joker]

The villains of TASM 2 are D-. That's being generous. Malekith was a bore of a villain, but he never had me rolling my eyes or cringing in my seat from cheesiness the way Electro, Rhino and "Green Goblin" did.

 

[Victarion]

I think the execution of the ideas in TAS-M2 (and frankly, just some of the ideas themselves, like Harry needing Spider-Man's blood... just cause) is poor but overall, I saw the film as a natural evolution for the most part, with the Electro stuff just baffling the hell out of me. It did deliver on the inner lives and relationship stuff with Gwen and Peter, and those last few minutes of the film ALMOST make up for the messy elements that came before (this includes the continuation of the parent stuff which... I just didn't care about.) It's a very uneven film. Thor's sequel on the other hand was just off putting from the start. It begins with the END of a story that is already more interesting than all the combined minutes that come after. Thor, going from realm to realm, leading the armies of Asgard to quell uprisings and banditry that has popped up due to the Bifrost being destroyed for some time? Acting as a leader and ambassador from the All Father? That would have been interesting to say the least. But that's not to be. Instead we get time WASTED on Jane's sad sack date, Selvig being "funny" crazy, Kat Dennings doing here schtick WAY too much and a main plot that is pushed forward by two of the dullest written villains imaginable in Kurse and Mal. (Which is a shame as those two from the comics have a lot of potential) All the action was lackluster, with the only time our hero gets to register in the story as a full fledged character being when he shares time with Loki. We get a death that doesn't resonate and a finale that was far more interested in making me laugh than filling me with awe or excitement. While TAS-M2 made me angry at times, TDW did it FAR more, and more often.

I would have preferred Malekith appear while Thor was trying to bring peace to the realms and use the chaos to his advantage.

 

[spiderman2]

B+ is a long pendulum swing.

Saying a movie isn't as bad as people are making it out to be and then saying it's a B+, then saying it's middle of the road/average.

lol that is not what I said don't put words into my mouth. You said the villains and the story are like a c- or something and I said the villains are a lot better then people say. There is more to a movie then just villains. You have action, story, acting, soundtrack ect. I said the movie is a great movie and I don't get the hate for the movie and that the villains are not bad. The movie isn't really about the villains its about peter and gwens love and peter felling gultie because of his promise to gwens dad.
I would say the movies acting A, story B+, action A, soundtrack A+, villains B-, characters charteristic A.

 

[First Avenger]

To me it's more like this:
Acting B-,Foxx,Giamatti and whoever played Kafka were terrible;
Story C,there are some intetesting ideas but the execution is bad;
Action B-,solid but nowhere near Raimi's level;
Soundtrack C-,I just don't like the style;
Villains D-,the worst villains of modern CBMs imo;
Characters C,Spider-Man(not Peter), Gwen and Aunt May were good.

 

[Mandon Knight]

I loved both first films prior to these two, especially Thor, which I thought was excellent, so in watching the sequels to both, I was just depressed at how poor both where, especially ASM 2, an awful film to watch, there are three decent reasons to watch it, Peter & Gwen's continued realtionship and DeHaan as Harry and Goblin, that's it, the rest is horrid.

Thor DW is a mess, in it, is a solid film but it's cut to ribbons, so you get a watered down threat, disjointed story and poor overall result.

Hate them both but like Thor : Dark World marginally more.

 

[Keehar]

To me it's more like this:
Acting B-,Foxx,Giamatti and whoever played Kafka were terrible;
Story C,there are some intetesting ideas but the execution is bad;
Action B-,solid but nowhere near Raimi's level;
Soundtrack C-,I just don't like the style;
Villains D-,the worst villains of modern CBMs imo;
Characters C,Spider-Man(not Peter), Gwen and Aunt May were good.

They look right. The action didn't touch Raimi's movies.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Yep. Slo-mo = / = cool.

 

[The_Manhunter]

I liked both, but The Dark World is one of my favorite superhero films to date so I voted for that one.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

All MCU movies are better than ASM 2 so I vote Thor Dark World.

 

[HaplessHenchman]

I remember watching TDW and just thinking "Man, this is terrible. How did this movie get made?"

However, it was better than ASM2, which I thought was horrible in every respect. I just remember thinking "Man, I can't believe that Sony has screwed up Spider-Man so bad. Put a fork in this franchise, it is done."

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I have both films rated about the same. 6/10. However, Thor 2, while not a great film, at least it isn't responsible for killing a franchise.

 

[Mr.T]

Thor TDW is a much better movie, IMO. The villains and story were head & shoulders better than the pile of crap we were served with TASM2. TDW is probably the worst movie from Marvel Studios, though.