The Avengers The Avengers Critics Reviews Thread - Part 2

[bonzob2000]

That's why I prefer metacritic, in general. You get a more nuanced score (divided into three colors and then subdivided by specific numerical score), plus since it only factors in major professional critics, you get far less of those "some washed up weirdo with a blog" type reviews (looking at you, Cole Smithey, if that is your real name).

 

[Raiden]

What's in between fresh and rotten though?

Stale? Day old? I mean both those have negative connotations as well.

Maybe say . . . "aged" instead of fresh?

Perhaps they can do it like this:

Rotten - Awful
Fresh - Mediocre
Fried Green Tomato - EXCELLENT

 

[Iceman]

That's why I prefer metacritic, in general. You get a more nuanced score (divided into three colors and then subdivided by specific numerical score), plus since it only factors in major professional critics, you get far less of those "some washed up weirdo with a blog" type reviews (looking at you, Cole Smithey, if that is your real name).

Why doesn't everyone use Metacritic then? Tradition? It sounds superior in every way. I use it for games but not really for films.

 

[The Infernal]

Who doesn't like Cloverfield? It's great.

Another positive review up on RT. Up to 90 positive reviews now! This one reads more like an article about ScarJo's costume than a review, but apparently it counts:

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/scarlett-johansson-impresses-action-fashion-avengers-222700297.html

I can't stand the film. The only good thing about it was the monster, which the 'footage found' gimmick ruined. I could care less about the forgettable characters that were in it.

 

[flickchick85]

Why doesn't everyone use Metacritic then? Tradition? It sounds superior in every way. I use it for games but not really for films.

I've been asking this question for ages. Sure, Metacritic scores are less impressive-looking than RT's, but I do feel like they more accurately represent the critical consensus on the overall quality of the movie than RT.

 

[Flemm]

I don't mind the up/down scoring for a site like rotten tomatoes, really. Sometimes you just want to know: is it worth seeing or not? Sure, for individual reviews, nuance is lost, but usually the overall % is about right. If a movie is rotten, it usually sucks. And vice versa. And there is a numerical score if you want to look deeper (not to mention reading the actual reviews).

I think it only becomes annoying because we are rooting for these films to score big, and scrutinizing each review, so when a borderline review is rotten, that becomes frustrating. But, as a system, I think it basically works.

 

[ElMariachi]

Metacritic is better than RT but the problem is nobody really uses it in my experience. RT is much more simpler and everybody has it as a phone/tablet app.

I think there should be a third category for mediocre reviews. It just seems a bit unfair to lump decent, but flawed movies in the same grouping as terrible movies.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Metacritic uses far less reviews, so there's too little input to consider.

Imagine if one site used 10 people's opinion and another used 200 opinions.

Which would you use?

 

[PokeJ]

I thought Abrams 2nd foray into monster-mash(Super 8) was more entertaining and a much better film than Cloverfield. It also had a lot more depth. I get a headache watching Cloverfield, not a big fan of shaky cam.

 

[flickchick85]

Metacritic uses far less reviews, so there's too little input to consider.

Imagine if one site used 10 people's opinion and another used 200 opinions.

Which would you use?

I'd use the one that left out the trolls.

 

[Liam_H]

People commenting on the Village Voice review are so freakin' sexist.

 

[ElMariachi]

Well, Salon.com is certainly giving this movie a rotten review. The critic there just killed Avengers. Just a total chode looking to rile fanboys.

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/02/the_avengers_will_superhero_movies_never_end/singleton/

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'd use the one that left out the trolls.

So why does Avengers have a higher rating at RT than it does at Metacritic?

Probably because for every troll at RT there's 20 honest and insightful critics there.

 

[Suzanne78]

That sucks. And Salon's a top critic too.

I now see this landing 88%-94%, which is absolutely fantastic and puts it alongside Begins through IM1.

 

[PokeJ]

Wtf? Why are all these negative reviewers so fricking *****ebags? Can they possibly give a well written review without trying to rile up fanboys. Half these reviews shouldn't even count, they did these reviews to rile upnfanboys. That goes to you Cole Smithey, Amy Nicholson, Andrew O'hehir, and FantheFire.

 

[flickchick85]

So why does Avengers have a higher rating at RT than it does at Metacritic?

Probably because for every troll at RT there's 20 honest and insightful critics there.

It has a higher rating because of their broad "yes or no" rating system and the fact that they don't count ratings in their average score from critics who don't provide the ratings. If I'm gonna take the time to seek out a critical opinion, I prefer to stick to the critics who have proven their mettle and made this their life's work, not just any dude with a blog.

 

[Suzanne78]

Well, Salon.com is certainly giving this movie a rotten review. The critic there just killed Avengers. Just a total chode looking to rile fanboys.

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/02/the_avengers_will_superhero_movies_never_end/singleton/

Again, I don't want to begrudge anyone's opinions about this movie, but the title alone frustrated me. I can't remember if I ever read or followed any of O'Hehir's other reviews. Seemed unnecessarily bitter.

 

[TomPiltoff]

Just a total chode looking to rile fanboys.

Yeah, because everything is a message for fanboys.

 

[Vulklin]

I just watched Iron Man 2 again.

I think is very under rated. Just as much fun as the first one and the action towards the end is very cool.

Black Widow and War Machine both kick arse t:

 

[ElMariachi]

This guy has given some real bizarre reviews looking at his review history on RT. He liked Green Lantern and Transformers 3. Praising them for the same things that he didn't like about Avengers. Didn't like First Class or Hunger Games. He did say the movie is better than Thor, which he rated positive. This should therefore be fresh right? t:

Everybody is entitled to an opinion but I will never understand why some of these critics are so bitter. I don't think any of us fans really expected this movie to be a masterpiece of storytelling. It literally is impossible with such a large cast, such a big concept, so much required action scenes, and only less than 2 1/2 hours to do it all! Avengers was always going to be an over-the-top action spectacle with good dialouge and a thin story. You would think a professional critic could understand that and respect the movie for what it is.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It has a higher rating because of their broad "yes or no" rating system and the fact that they don't count ratings in their average score from critics who don't provide the ratings. If I'm gonna take the time to seek out a critical opinion, I prefer to stick to the critics who have proven their mettle, not just any dude with a blog.

Sometimes the average joe is a better and more honest judge of a film than some elitist snob who is dependent and obligated to powerful media outlets.

and many times people from blogs are more passionate and expressive about certain films than the pros who resent having to sit through fanboy genres.

 

[PokeJ]

He also liked Captain America, Iron Man 1 & 2. This review doesn't make sense to me.

 

[ElMariachi]

Yeah, because everything is a message for fanboys.

Did you read the article? He essentially mocks the fans of the movie. I respect that he understands who it is that is reading this article but it came across as d--kish.

 

[Chewy]

Almost 100 reviews, 99 right now, and it's still sitting at 94%. Fantastic

 

[ElMariachi]

He also liked Captain America, Iron Man 1 & 2. This review doesn't make sense to me.

I actually think this might be a semi-positive review wrapped in a tirade about comicbook movies. It's a very bizarre read. Probally the most enjoyable read of the 'haters' though.