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Yes, I´ve been to scandinavia several times and it is really far better to sub movies, educational and all... and you really only can judge a performance when you hear the actual actor.

And sadly I don´t know if there are cinemas who screen in english around here :(

Sorry, but I´m not really into football.. though this might be a chance to ask why it is sometimes called soccer and sometimes football? I never got behind that :D
Yes, subtitles are much better both for catching the performance and for learning the language. I hope you can find some theater close to you that has the English version.

The full name of football is Association football and soccer is a nickname for that (originally to separate it from rugby football). It's mainly the North Americans that seem to use it nowadays to separate it from American football. Personally I think it would be easier if they called American football 'handegg'.
 
LOL @ "Nolan is a boring ****."

Not that I agree I just thought his disdain for Nolan was funny.
 
"Nolan". A name that has brought forth the greatest crapstorms of the Hype, and shall bring many more in the months to come.
 
Yeah which is why as soon as I heard the derogatory word at Nolan I edited really quick lmao, then I heard spoilers so I edited again lmao.
 
Why does it have to be this idiotic competition? I do not understand.

This is a great thing to have more than one stellar comic book movie coming out in the same year. That rather sad individuals rant up there should be, "Let's hope Nolan's Batman movie can be just as good!" so that audiences will flock to the theaters and support these films so that the industry -- which is waiting for it -- doesn't cry "comic book fatigue" and stop making these films.

We should be rooting for all these films to be great -- Avengers, Spider-Man, TDKR. And anyone who is sitting there acting like TDKR won't deliver in its own way is just in denial and needs to separate their preferences from what they percieve reality to be.

TDKR and Avengers will most likely both be greatly regarded by fans, audiences, and critics, and will demonstrate to non-fanboys just how diverse, flexible, and well-rounded superheroes can be, that they are not all just guys in tights doing the same things fighting the same people. There's something for everyone in comic books, and the films should demonstrate this without one having to be more like the other in terms of tone and scope -- only quality.

Batman will never be able to have the sheer scope of The Avengers due ot the nature of his character. He has no powers. He can't hulk out or throw hammers, etc. So yes, I doubt TDKR will feel as big as Avengers. But bigger is not always better, and it must suit the character and the material. Size does not produce thrills and suspense -- immersion and investment do. If Nolan gets you invested in Batman's journey, in Gotham's situation, in Gordon's hopes -- than Bane will be sufficient enough to have us on the edge of our seats riveted to the screen that -- yes, may not be as light-hearted as Avengers -- but will be just as visceral, and probably more intense, than what Avengers offered. But Avengers shouldn't be too intense, Batman should.

And also, for those knocking TDKR, Avengers by virtue of its characters has to be huge, and also light-hearted. But the reality of TDKR is Batman is at such a disadvantage (Rocky-style), that although it may not be as huge, it can still be emotionally epic as audiences will always root for and gravitate toward the underdog story, and as Batman faces the apocalyptic ruins of a Gotham gone mad, run by a tyrant who single-handedly destroyed him and represents the worst of what Batman could've become -- the audiences will invest, take the bait, and be on the edge of their seats terrified that Batman may not make it out alive because they know this is the last film.

And by summer's end, all us nerds can look at those who do not read comics, those who mock grown men reading about superheroes, and as they leave the theaters of Avengers, Spider-Man, and TDKR -- we can smirk and say, "I told you so."
 
Are you the kind of tall slim guy?
No :) . I'm the chubby dude with the Cap shirt. That guy in the UCLA sweater is my buddy Jon who is lucky I am such a good friend since I woke up super early to wait in line and he only had to come in right before to get his wrist band :o .
 
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Why does it have to be this idiotic competition? I do not understand.

This is a great thing to have more than one stellar comic book movie coming out in the same year. That rather sad individuals rant up there should be, "Let's hope Nolan's Batman movie can be just as good!" so that audiences will flock to the theaters and support these films so that the industry -- which is waiting for it -- doesn't cry "comic book fatigue" and stop making these films.

We should be rooting for all these films to be great -- Avengers, Spider-Man, TDKR. And anyone who is sitting there acting like TDKR won't deliver in its own way is just in denial and needs to separate their preferences from what they percieve reality to be.

TDKR and Avengers will most likely both be greatly regarded by fans, audiences, and critics, and will demonstrate to non-fanboys just how diverse, flexible, and well-rounded superheroes can be, that they are not all just guys in tights doing the same things fighting the same people. There's something for everyone in comic books, and the films should demonstrate this without one having to be more like the other in terms of tone and scope -- only quality.

Batman will never be able to have the sheer scope of The Avengers due ot the nature of his character. He has no powers. He can't hulk out or throw hammers, etc. So yes, I doubt TDKR will feel as big as Avengers. But bigger is not always better, and it must suit the character and the material. Size does not produce thrills and suspense -- immersion and investment do. If Nolan gets you invested in Batman's journey, in Gotham's situation, in Gordon's hopes -- than Bane will be sufficient enough to have us on the edge of our seats riveted to the screen that -- yes, may not be as light-hearted as Avengers -- but will be just as visceral, and probably more intense, than what Avengers offered. But Avengers shouldn't be too intense, Batman should.

And also, for those knocking TDKR, Avengers by virtue of its characters has to be huge, and also light-hearted. But the reality of TDKR is Batman is at such a disadvantage (Rocky-style), that although it may not be as huge, it can still be emotionally epic as audiences will always root for and gravitate toward the underdog story, and as Batman faces the apocalyptic ruins of a Gotham gone mad, run by a tyrant who single-handedly destroyed him and represents the worst of what Batman could've become -- the audiences will invest, take the bait, and be on the edge of their seats terrified that Batman may not make it out alive because they know this is the last film.

And by summer's end, all us nerds can look at those who do not read comics, those who mock grown men reading about superheroes, and as they leave the theaters of Avengers, Spider-Man, and TDKR -- we can smirk and say, "I told you so."
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Why does it have to be this idiotic competition? I do not understand.

This is a great thing to have more than one stellar comic book movie coming out in the same year. That rather sad individuals rant up there should be, "Let's hope Nolan's Batman movie can be just as good!" so that audiences will flock to the theaters and support these films so that the industry -- which is waiting for it -- doesn't cry "comic book fatigue" and stop making these films.

We should be rooting for all these films to be great -- Avengers, Spider-Man, TDKR. And anyone who is sitting there acting like TDKR won't deliver in its own way is just in denial and needs to separate their preferences from what they percieve reality to be.

TDKR and Avengers will most likely both be greatly regarded by fans, audiences, and critics, and will demonstrate to non-fanboys just how diverse, flexible, and well-rounded superheroes can be, that they are not all just guys in tights doing the same things fighting the same people. There's something for everyone in comic books, and the films should demonstrate this without one having to be more like the other in terms of tone and scope -- only quality.

Batman will never be able to have the sheer scope of The Avengers due ot the nature of his character. He has no powers. He can't hulk out or throw hammers, etc. So yes, I doubt TDKR will feel as big as Avengers. But bigger is not always better, and it must suit the character and the material. Size does not produce thrills and suspense -- immersion and investment do. If Nolan gets you invested in Batman's journey, in Gotham's situation, in Gordon's hopes -- than Bane will be sufficient enough to have us on the edge of our seats riveted to the screen that -- yes, may not be as light-hearted as Avengers -- but will be just as visceral, and probably more intense, than what Avengers offered. But Avengers shouldn't be too intense, Batman should.

And also, for those knocking TDKR, Avengers by virtue of its characters has to be huge, and also light-hearted. But the reality of TDKR is Batman is at such a disadvantage (Rocky-style), that although it may not be as huge, it can still be emotionally epic as audiences will always root for and gravitate toward the underdog story, and as Batman faces the apocalyptic ruins of a Gotham gone mad, run by a tyrant who single-handedly destroyed him and represents the worst of what Batman could've become -- the audiences will invest, take the bait, and be on the edge of their seats terrified that Batman may not make it out alive because they know this is the last film.

And by summer's end, all us nerds can look at those who do not read comics, those who mock grown men reading about superheroes, and as they leave the theaters of Avengers, Spider-Man, and TDKR -- we can smirk and say, "I told you so."

Couldn't agree more! I'm really hoping CBM's deliver big this year, it's looking like an amazing start with Avengers maybe Avenger's is the movie we needed to refresh so to speak the public's interest in CBM's
 
Why does it have to be this idiotic competition? I do not understand.
I agree. The scenario where we get two (or three with TASM) great superhero movies must surely be preferable for everyone?

I'm not a huge Batman fan but I've really enjoyed the two great Nolan movies. Even if he's a character that often makes me root for the bad guy, but that's not something I see as negative and it happens quite often for me. :)
 
Why does it have to be this idiotic competition? I do not understand.

Because it's fanboy insecurity.

Some of these fans, IMO, are mad that their personal favorite hero movie does not get the acclaim of something like TDK/SM2/X2. What makes this particular case even worse is that the current golden boy is a movie made by the rival company.

Also, a few of these fans have this stupid chip on their shoulder because TDK dosen't especially look or feel like a superhero film and is praised for it, so they champion marvel films cause they have the familiar trappings of superhero characters/movies.

All I know is, it's irritating as hell to come to the spoiler threads and see the same tired ass debate about TDK. And I'm already seeing the day when fanboys start nitpicking The Avengers the way they did X2/SM2/BB/TDK.
 
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Found my friend and I at 2:20. I'm wearing a black Avengers shirt with my arms crossed for dear life. It was really cold out there!
 
Can't wait for all of the big comic movies to come out this year since the net quality of them all is a marked difference from past years with multiple CBM released. They each fulfill a different need and want from me, in terms of mood and film type.
 
Why does it have to be this idiotic competition? I do not understand.

This is a great thing to have more than one stellar comic book movie coming out in the same year. That rather sad individuals rant up there should be, "Let's hope Nolan's Batman movie can be just as good!" so that audiences will flock to the theaters and support these films so that the industry -- which is waiting for it -- doesn't cry "comic book fatigue" and stop making these films.

We should be rooting for all these films to be great -- Avengers, Spider-Man, TDKR. And anyone who is sitting there acting like TDKR won't deliver in its own way is just in denial and needs to separate their preferences from what they percieve reality to be.

TDKR and Avengers will most likely both be greatly regarded by fans, audiences, and critics, and will demonstrate to non-fanboys just how diverse, flexible, and well-rounded superheroes can be, that they are not all just guys in tights doing the same things fighting the same people. There's something for everyone in comic books, and the films should demonstrate this without one having to be more like the other in terms of tone and scope -- only quality.

Batman will never be able to have the sheer scope of The Avengers due ot the nature of his character. He has no powers. He can't hulk out or throw hammers, etc. So yes, I doubt TDKR will feel as big as Avengers. But bigger is not always better, and it must suit the character and the material. Size does not produce thrills and suspense -- immersion and investment do. If Nolan gets you invested in Batman's journey, in Gotham's situation, in Gordon's hopes -- than Bane will be sufficient enough to have us on the edge of our seats riveted to the screen that -- yes, may not be as light-hearted as Avengers -- but will be just as visceral, and probably more intense, than what Avengers offered. But Avengers shouldn't be too intense, Batman should.

And also, for those knocking TDKR, Avengers by virtue of its characters has to be huge, and also light-hearted. But the reality of TDKR is Batman is at such a disadvantage (Rocky-style), that although it may not be as huge, it can still be emotionally epic as audiences will always root for and gravitate toward the underdog story, and as Batman faces the apocalyptic ruins of a Gotham gone mad, run by a tyrant who single-handedly destroyed him and represents the worst of what Batman could've become -- the audiences will invest, take the bait, and be on the edge of their seats terrified that Batman may not make it out alive because they know this is the last film.

And by summer's end, all us nerds can look at those who do not read comics, those who mock grown men reading about superheroes, and as they leave the theaters of Avengers, Spider-Man, and TDKR -- we can smirk and say, "I told you so."
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I bet Nolan would be happy if Avengers is good too. Who would root for a movie to be bad? Just adds more suck to the world, and we don't need any more suck. We need more AWESOME, and then stuff that's even more AWESOME THAN AWESOME.

We need directors to be pushing each other and experimenting with different styles. That's what the comics and the characters themselves have done for years, so why are the movies often put into a one-size-fits-all box?

They are artistic entities. The more people can experiment with them, the more we can show off how versatile and timeless they can be.

Because it's fanboy insecurity.

Some of these fans, IMO, are mad that their personal favorite hero movie does not get the acclaim of something like TDK/SM2/X2. What makes this particular case even worse is that the current golden boy is a movie made by the rival company.

Also, a few of these fans have this stupid chip on their shoulder because TDK dosen't especially look or feel like a superhero film and is praised for it, so they champion marvel films cause they have the familiar trappings of superhero characters/movies.

All I know is, it's irritating as hell to come to the spoiler threads and see the same tired ass debate about TDK. And I'm already seeing the day when fanboys start nitpicking The Avengers the way they did X2/SM2/BB/TDK.
You weren't here when the first reactions were coming in and people were starting to nitpick bits on the plot that were being spoiled, even though they weren't the ones who had seen the movie? :funny:
 
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