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[BigThor]

My favorite part of that is the dude playing the scientist he's yelling at played Ralphie from a Christmas story.

Wow, I honestly did not know that so thanks for the info that makes that scene even funnier.

I don't see the problem. It just further explores the idea that Asgardian "magic" is another form of science. Did you complain when Red Skull harnessed the power of the cosmic cube?

It helps mesh the fantasy world of Thor with the more sci-fi world of Iron Man together.

If you don't like super sciency stuff like that in the comics, you shouldn't be reading superhero comics.

No I didn't, because the cosmic cube always seemed more "scientific" to me anyways.

It's not even the fact that they found a way to harness it's power, it's the fact that they did in the span of two years. If humans are that smart then why in the heck are we so behind the times, in that case the government should've been able to replicate IM's armor quite easily.

 

[Raiden]

There's a Facebook poster commented: "Chris has biggest chest than Cobie".

 

[The Morningstar]

Wow, I honestly did not know that so thanks for the info that makes that scene even funnier.



No I didn't, because the cosmic cube always seemed more "scientific" to me anyways.

It's not even the fact that they found a way to harness it's power, it's the fact that they did in the span of two years. If humans are that smart then when in the heck are we so behind the times, in that case the government should've been able to replicate IM's armor quite easily.

Yes but it's not like creating the technology from scratch, it's reverse engineering it. They need a working example of it first.

If SHIELD created the tech from scratch? Sure, i'd be with you.

 

[bluemorbo]

The critics embargo in Australia lifts tomorrow, so in about 12 hours time you should start to see some more reviews. The UK ones will hopefully come out in the next couple of days too.

The one I can't wait for is Mark Kermode's review for the BBC. I hope it's a memorable podcast.

Empire's review goes up tomorrow, I believe.

 

[BigThor]

Yes but it's not like creating the technology from scratch, it's reverse engineering it. They need a working example of it first.

If SHIELD created the tech from scratch? Sure, i'd be with you.

Yeah that's true, but why haven't they reverse egineered Stark's suits since they have a working example for that as well a.k.a "War Machine".

 

[The Morningstar]

Fair point. I guess Rhodey has some kind of authority over the use and study of the suit. But that whole thing was iffy really, considering it's using the old arc reactor that shouldn't work to that capacity, unless i'm missing something.

 

[jacobed]

Ralphie from Christmas Story is a producer on Iron Man and is a producer on most of Jon Favreau's movies

 

[BigThor]

Fair point. I guess Rhodey has some kind of authority over the use and study of the suit. But that whole thing was iffy really, considering it's using the old arc reactor that shouldn't work to that capacity, unless i'm missing something.

Very true, however the old reactor worked just fine it was only poisoning Stark because it was connected to his heart. The suits ran just fine without the new element, as long as the wearer's heart isn't connected to the reactor they'll be alright.

Ralphie from Christmas Story is a producer on Iron Man and is a producer on most of Jon Favreau's movies

Cool I didn't know that either, thanks for the info Jacobed.

 

[Smashlilman]

Wow, I honestly did not know that so thanks for the info that makes that scene even funnier.



No I didn't, because the cosmic cube always seemed more "scientific" to me anyways.

It's not even the fact that they found a way to harness it's power, it's the fact that they did in the span of two years. If humans are that smart then why in the heck are we so behind the times, in that case the government should've been able to replicate IM's armor quite easily.

They can't Replicate his armor because it has a copy right patent. Plus He's a defense contractor. If they did steal his Tech, he could Sue them. Why would they try to steal tech from the largest supplier of arms to the US Government. They can make replicas of armors. They may not be built the same way but they can do it. (Just like there are thousands of other robotic ex-suits in the comics)

 

[The Morningstar]

Very true, however the old reactor worked just fine it was only poisoning Stark because it was connected to his heart. The suits ran just fine without the new element, as long as the wearer's heart isn't connected to the reactor they'll be alright.



Cool I didn't know that either, thanks for the info Jacobed.

No i mean wasn't Rhodey using the first arc reactor Stark created? The one that wasn't built for sustained flight and everything else?

 

[BigThor]

No i mean wasn't Rhodey using the first arc reactor Stark created? The one that wasn't built for sustained flight and everything else?

Nah I'm pretty sure he got rid of that after his battle Iron Monger or put it back in it's glass box. Rhodey flew off with Stark's Mark II armor which was run by a regular arc reactor not the one Stark built in the cave.

They can't Replicate his armor because it has a copy right patent. Plus He's a defense contractor. If they did steal his Tech, he could Sue them. Why would they try to steal tech from the largest supplier of arms to the US Government. They can make replicas of armors. They may not be built the same way but they can do it. (Just like there are thousands of other robotic ex-suits in the comics)

Very true, while the Destroyer may not be "patented" I'm sure Odin doesn't approve of Shield using it to create weapons.

 

[The Morningstar]

Hmm yea i guess that makes sense. I haven't seen IM2 in a while so i'm a bit foggy with the details.

 

[BigThor]

Hmm yea i guess that makes sense. I haven't seen IM2 in a while so i'm a bit foggy with the details.

I meant I'm sure Stark got rid of that after his battle with Iron Monger, because after it ran out of power before the fight even ended.

 

[Kingdork]

Don't know if this had already been posted but I stumbled onto a new Iron Man centered TV-Spot with new footage on a French website.

http://www.allocine.fr/article/dossiers/cinema/dossier-18591685/

Scroll down to see the video.

 

[craigdbfan]

Very nice find King.

Loved the footage they showed there. Iron Man looking great as usual. The lines from Ruffalo were great too.

 

[Smashlilman]

Very true, while the Destroyer may not be "patented" I'm sure Odin doesn't approve of Shield using it to create weapons.

Asgard needs to sign a Trade agreement with the United States.

 

[Herolee10]

It's kind of interesting when you see on how everything falls into places in moving the bigger picture forward:

The actions of Odin and the Asgardians inadvertently led (in one way or another) to the creation of the major strife that brought the chaos in World War 2 (Red Skull) and the invasion of Earth from the Chi'tari (Loki).

The events of World War 2, namely the creation of the super soldier serum is what led to the events that made General Ross push Banner into researching about the usage of Gamma Radiation on human beings and thus his transformation into the Hulk.

It's probably because of threats like the Hulk (or as he was considered) along with the crazy crap that happened in World War 2 in the MCU that led to how Stark Industries globalized on creating weapons for decades and how that led to Tony Stark eventually becoming Iron Man.


It's all connected.lol.....

 

[cherokeesam]

Considering the fact that the Pyms weren't founding members in this universe, the "history of the team" is already out the window, and that's fine with me. The MCU is its own thing, which draws elements from the comics, but clearly doesn't follow them exactly. And the Hulk is definitely one of those things it shouldn't follow. He is essential to THIS incarnation of the Avengers. And I think their "big picture" is already going in a nice direction without the Pyms and the baggage/connections they bring to the table. I'd also rather see Black Panther and Ms. Marvel brought on over them. I wouldn't even object to the Heroes for Hire being brought on even though they aren't typically Avengers. But Iron Fist and Luke Cage would be great additions to THIS group, imo.

I agree with you that MCU is its own entity, and is already starting to deviate significantly from comic-book canon. That's why Hulk is in a unique position now to be a true Avenger and bona fide all-American all-Star Super Hero --- and that's something that he's never been before in the comics.

That being said, it should also be apparent that War Machine (like him or not) should be an essential part of the MCU. He isn't the equal of Iron Man, by any means, but WM is a full-fledged superhero who has already proven his mettle (metal?) in IM2; that's why it's going to become increasingly problematic for the MCU to say that it's okay for him to do the hero thing in IM2 and IM3, but somehow he doesn't make the grade for the Avengers Initiative...?

 

[craigdbfan]

It's kind of interesting when you see on how everything falls into places in moving the bigger picture forward:

The actions of Odin and the Asgardians inadvertently led (in one way or another) to the creation of the major strife that brought the chaos in World War 2 (Red Skull) and the invasion of Earth from the Chi'tari (Loki).

The events of World War 2, namely the creation of the super soldier serum is what led to the events that made General Ross push Banner into researching about the usage of Gamma Radiation on human beings and thus his transformation into the Hulk.

It's probably because of threats like the Hulk (or as he was considered) along with the crazy crap that happened in World War 2 in the MCU that led to how Stark Industries globalized on creating weapons for decades and how that led to Tony Stark eventually becoming Iron Man.


It's all connected.lol.....

It flows really well though.

 

[BigThor]

That being said, it should also be apparent that War Machine (like him or not) should be an essential part of the MCU. He isn't the equal of Iron Man, by any means, but WM is a full-fledged superhero who has already proven his mettle (metal?) in IM2; that's why it's going to become increasingly problematic for the MCU to say that it's okay for him to do the hero thing in IM2 and IM3, but somehow he doesn't make the grade for the Avengers Initiative...?

In the EMH episode "Alone Against A.I.M" Rhodey made it very clear that he didn't want to be a superhero and maybe the MCU version feels the same way.

Rhodey was only in the suit to show it off in the Stark Expo, he just managed to get dragged into hero action due to Ivan attacking the Expo.

 

[craigdbfan]

Yeah Rhodey comes off as really dedicated to the military. I don't think he has any interest to join The Avengers quite honestly even if approached.

 

[Vartha]

Don't know if this had already been posted but I stumbled onto a new Iron Man centered TV-Spot with new footage on a French website.

http://www.allocine.fr/article/dossiers/cinema/dossier-18591685/

Scroll down to see the video.

NICE man alive IM's armor seems to be packed to the gils with arsenal! lol

 

[Silvermoon]

BTW, don't know if anyone mentioned this before, but there's a livestream of some graffiti artists doing a display for Avengers in London where twitter users can vote who is put on next. Loki was first (and is complete), Thor looks mostly done and Iron Man has been started on (Hawkeye is currently in the lead to be next):

http://www.livestream.com/assemblelive

 

[Crimson King]

...but it would inevitably suck, as all live-action superhero shows do.

Have you seen Misfits?

 

[Vartha]

No i mean wasn't Rhodey using the first arc reactor Stark created? The one that wasn't built for sustained flight and everything else?

see, I've noticed that before as well, How the heck was Rhodey's armor powered the first time around?
I'm thinking Tony at THAT point has the old reactor in his chest, I don't recall any spare reactors around until Tony creates the new element