Arrow The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread - Part 1

[Maximus One]

Yea I want like a fantastical csi

 

[Rorschach2012]

Fine.





Sure.





'Til now.

I find this hard to believe... maybe you're just saying yes for the sake of your argument. But I'd be a lot more upset with a blonde Superman or a rainbow Sinestro than I am about a black Wally West.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I find this hard to believe... maybe you're just saying yes for the sake of your argument. But I'd be a lot more upset with a blonde Superman or a rainbow Sinestro than I am about a black Wally West.

I'd be upset with all of them but I agree on that.

 

[cleverusername8]

I find this hard to believe... maybe you're just saying yes for the sake of your argument. But I'd be a lot more upset with a blonde Superman or a rainbow Sinestro than I am about a black Wally West.

What's the issue with a blonde Superman?

 

[Kevin Smith]

What's the issue with a blonde Superman?

You really have to ask?

 

[Savage]

Yes! Especially when brunette Barry Allen and Oliver Queen are no big deal to anybody. Do brunettes just rule?

 

[Rorschach2012]

What's the issue with a blonde Superman?

If you have to ask, you'll never know

 

[roach]

 

[Rorschach2012]

Yeah that looks really bad to me! I was fine with a blonde Bond though. Maybe I could be able to get past something like that.

 

[Shikamaru]

Looks too DBZ-ish.

 

[Maximus One]

Blond kinda does feel all American. Anyways, I was thinking about all this Detective Eddie Thawne stuff and it got me thinking about it and all the possibilities if he indeed is the one who murdered Barry's mom. The only pertinent question now is is this something Thawne is driven to throughout the series or has he already done it when the show starts. I'm so god damn ready for this show. With Arrow getting as good as it is I really hope The Flash can end up becoming a good companion show to it. Especially since Supernatural really needs to end already

 

[Infinity9999x]

Yes! Especially when brunette Barry Allen and Oliver Queen are no big deal to anybody. Do brunettes just rule?

Err...what? Amell looks blonde. If anything, dirty blonde. He's definitely not brunette.

And in terms of why people don't care about Flash's hair color, or why they wouldn't about Green Arrow's, is simple: They aren't as popular as Superman's.

Granted, if the actor is good, people don't really care. See James Bond. However, I have always found it odd that filmmakers don't have the actors dye their hair when it comes to roles like that. It's not very hard to do.

 

[Savage]

Err...what? Amell looks blonde. If anything, dirty blonde. He's definitely not brunette.

And in terms of why people don't care about Flash's hair color, or why they wouldn't about Green Arrow's, is simple: They aren't as popular as Superman's.

Granted, if the actor is good, people don't really care. See James Bond. However, I have always found it odd that filmmakers don't have the actors dye their hair when it comes to roles like that. It's not very hard to do.

Looks brunette to me but maybe that's just because it's a dark show. He is certainly no Black Canary or anything. Then again most dirty blondes look brunette to me and I have to be informed that they're really blonde and just take their word for it. In my eyes Barry and Ollie have the same hair color on screen.

And hair color really is one of those things that only matters to die hards. Just like Bond and Barry Allen people eventually just get over it and realize how unimportant it is. Changes are made and then people are shocked the world didn't end. Happens all the time.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Had a dream the other day that there will be a time when no character on screen actually looks like their comic book counterpart. It just may well happen too.

 

[cleverusername8]

You really have to ask?

If you have to ask, you'll never know

Neither of these answer the question.

 

[BH/HHH]

Maybe if the future Superman is the son of Kara (Supergirl) t:

 

[Boy Scout]

Had a dream the other day that there will be a time when no character on screen actually looks like their comic book counterpart. It just may well happen too.

I could see that happening too. I'd give it 50 years or so.

 

[DrCosmic]

What if they started coloring Sinestro orange or rainbow colored instead of purple?

Blonde Superman?

Except that Wally West isn't black...at all.

Wally West isn't from Canada either... at all. So? Why do you compare being a darker shade of brown with being a completely different hue, or rainbow colored? Why do you see two shades darker and interpret that as 'might as well be rainbow colored?' Is that logic? Is that objective? Is that reasonable?

Had a dream the other day that there will be a time when no character on screen actually looks like their comic book counterpart. It just may well happen too.

Dreams reveal to us our fears. Some people fear that if Wally West is cast as black this time, that he'll never be cast as white again. This is complete balderdash, and will never happen, but that's what people are afraid of. As long as white males are in charge, the main characters will always be predominately white males. So go to sleep in peace.

Neither of these answer the question.

No one wants to answer the question because all the answers either sound stupid, or don't have anything to do with anyone but the speaker.

 

[Brian Braddock]

your sarcasm is truly awesome. And greatly appreciated. As was the criminally underused RDJ rolleyes gif.

kudos for originality.

 

[Boy Scout]

Err...what? Amell looks blonde. If anything, dirty blonde. He's definitely not brunette.

Could have fooled me. His stubble looks blonde, but a man's facial hair being a different color than the hair on his head isn't unheard of.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Seriously? What if this topic had been brought up independently and not because of a "racial issue", where you are required to answer "yes" for your the sake of your view's consistency, what would your answer had been then?

I wasn't really involved in the argument before, so I'm not trying to stay consistent with anything. But I've seen Sinestro colored red, pink, and purple at different points. So... Whatever.

**** that. What kind of Superman fan are you? Lol.

One who doesn't give a **** about his hair color since it has next to nothing to do with the character I guess? Would black make the most sense since that's what it normally is? Yeah. Would I be remotely turned off if he were blonde? Why would I?

**** that too. And even so, wrong, as he technically doesn't "exist" yet, and even his inclusion in this (as-yet-to-air) show is mere speculation at this point.

Then you're mad for no reason.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Neither of these answer the question.

No one wants to answer the question because all the answers either sound stupid, or don't have anything to do with anyone but the speaker.

I'll answer the question.

Superman's dark hair is one of his defining traits. It's like his red cape. He has to have it. But then again I suppose you're going to tell me you'd be cool if they changed his cape to blue as well.

Flash Gordon has yellow hair. It's one of his defining physical traits. Superman has black hair. It's part of what makes them up as characters along with their names.

Yes! Especially when brunette Barry Allen and Oliver Queen are no big deal to anybody. Do brunettes just rule?

The Flash wears a cowl/mask that covers his head most of the time, so this isn't as important, plus they went with brunette, which is closer to blonde than say....black or dark brown is. Green Arrow wears a hood (and hat in the comics), although I'd prefer he be blonde, dirty blonde like Amell is isn't the worst thing he could be, and is still closer to blonde than the other hair colors I mentioned. It's similar to the Flash thing.

Wally West isn't from Canada either... at all. So? Why do you compare being a darker shade of brown with being a completely different hue, or rainbow colored? Why do you see two shades darker and interpret that as 'might as well be rainbow colored?' Is that logic? Is that objective? Is that reasonable?

Alright, how about yellow? Orange? Green? Blue? Take your pick. I didn't have to say rainbow, but they're all fair comparisons as Sinestro is technicolored to begin with. Yes it is reasonable, yes it is logical.

And a canadian native will look more like Wally West than say...a native from Kenya. And Wally being black wouldn't be a "darker shade of brown", as Wally isn't ANY "shade of brown" to begin with, he is white, or "pink" I guess you could say, and a "darker shade" of that might be indian, "red skinned", maybe, or asian, "yellow"...all those are closer to "pink". Brown and black are on the other end of the spectrum.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I wasn't really involved in the argument before, so I'm not trying to stay consistent with anything. But I've seen Sinestro colored red, pink, and purple at different points. So... Whatever.

Most likely coloring errors but all different shades of the same color - he is not green or yellow or blue and that is the point I was trying to make.

One who doesn't give a **** about his hair color since it has next to nothing to do with the character I guess? Would black make the most sense since that's what it normally is? Yeah. Would I be remotely turned off if he were blonde? Why would I?

I guess his cape doesn't have to be red according to you either. Hell - WHY even wear a cape? Has NOTHING to do with his character, right? Where do you stop stripping things away? After taking away so much, exactly how much of the "character" are you left with at all?

Then you're mad for no reason.

Then we're having this discussion for no reason.

 

[Lord Valumart]

I'll answer the question.

Superman's dark hair is one of his defining traits. It's like his red cape. He has to have it. But then again I suppose you're going to tell me you'd be cool if they changed his cape to blue as well.

Flash Gordon has yellow hair. It's one of his defining physical traits. Superman has black hair. It's part of what makes them up as characters along with their names.

I dunno, if it's not stated as an important story point as a character building trait then **** it. It's only important because it's been that way in the comics for so long.

Take John Constantine, everyone knows him as a british, blonde, sweary, magic con man with the long coat. You don't need the blonde or coat to have Constantine. You just need him written and acted as Constantine.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I dunno, if it's not stated as an important story point as a character building trait then **** it. It's only important because it's been that way in the comics for so long.

Take John Constantine, everyone knows him as a british, blonde, sweary, magic con man with the long coat. You don't need the blonde or coat to have Constantine. You just need him written and acted as Constantine.

But Superman is not John Constantine, who only a handful of people in comparison are aware of. If this were 1940, sure, make the cape blue if you want, give him different colored hair, but the character is so big and so HUGE and such an important cornerstone of pop culture you lose something if you take something like his hair color away from him. Something in his essence is lost.