The Flash The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread - Part 3

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GL TAS was good. Way better than Beware the Batman.
 
Midnight Black said:
Agree with you on BTB, but disagree with you on GL. I enjoyed the show and thought it did a lot for GL in the wake of the terrible GL film.
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I don't think it really did anything for GL but further put the nail in his coffin as far as anything outside comics goes and show WB that he "won't work" for a number of years (because people were disinterested, understandably, because of how they handled him). The show was so bland.

I thought the stories were good and exposed the GA to more lanterns than previously seen. Also, Clone Wars was awesome! lol
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Yeah but on the show it was like ok...so what that there are different color Lanterns? Didn't have the same buildup or meaning that it did when they did it in the comics. It seemed just like a gimmic here and they focused SO much on all of that crap, which had a relatively small part of the GL comics, when there was SO much more to draw from that was stronger character wise for Hal and his supporting cast. Clone Wars was cool but a watered down wannabe version of it is not - that's what the GL show was to me. The superhero aspect is virtually nonexistent in the show and even the cool space missions with Hal are too. I knew kids who loved JL/JLU but could not sit still due to how boring the GL show was.

Alfred as a jason statham gun toting ex agent of u.n.c.l.e. was pretty much spot on lol. I think it would've come off better if they didn't try and create this team with him Batman and the ninja girl. I don't mind a secret agent alfred, but this guy was more Brock Sampson and less James Bond than I would've preferred lol.
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I don't mind Alfred having a secret service background or being an ex agent or whatever, but training Bruce, gun toting (sans having one nearby for an intruder in the cave/mansion), being out there punching bad guys with Batman, teaching him how to be a caped crusader is NOT at all what Alfred should ever be. I absolutely detested that revisioning, lol. I might accept Alfred the armchair detective but even that is pushing it.

So how did you feel about Batman: Brave and the Bold and/or Justice League, since I take it you didn't like Legion of Superheroes.
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LOSH was a massive disappointment to me, again, was expecting DCAU type stuff a la "New Kids in Town", but the show was pretty friggin' boring and mediocre at best - it was not Superman to me. The characters were unengaging as well.

I actually really enjoyed Brave and The Bold for the most part as it was an homage to all the wacky silver age stuff, granted, if we didn't have the DCAU and what I consider to be good representations of the "definitive" Batman in cartoons, I'd probably have hated the show, but because we do have them, I can look at this show for what it was supposed to be, just a bunch of fun, wacky silver age (but less serious) stuff not unlike the "Legends of The Dark Knight" episode of Batman: TAS where they did the Dick Sprang Batman. I kind of enjoyed the deliberate "corniness" of it, but it was also well done and well written for the most part, just a fun, entertaining show. Not "my" Batman or the "definitive" Batman/DCAU by any means, but it was just a fun thing I felt. I'd have preferred a more DCAU take but it's rare to see silver age/old school throwback stuff, usually they want to go in the opposite direction and make it ultra hip and edgy, so I dig it for that purpose I suppose. Justice League I loved, along with JLU, if that's what you meant, I consider the whole Timmiverse to be the best DC anything just about.

Young Justice I thought was okay, I loved the stuff with The Flash family and would have loved to really have seen it be more about the core JLA and turned into a new Justice League show, the show wasn't bad, it just got a little too soap operaic for my taste at times, and that detracted from it, IMO. I wonder if anything will ever be as good as what the DCAU was, they seemed to have the right balance of literally everything in those stories; they were never soap operaish, but they were never all punches and kicks and mindless action, either, and the characterizations were always great, everybody had such great personalities. Only complaint would be the batgod pandering somewhat and how weak they made Superman powerwise initially, but as far as characterizations go they had everything damn near perfect.

Always wished Barry and Hal would show up, and I could nit pick for hours about how much they combined Barry into Wally in the show and how Flash was only Wally in name and appearance and had Barry's story and world and life as The Flash and acted more like Bart and how they gave John and Kyle a lot of Hal Jordan's elements, but it was such a great show and the characters all had such great chemistry literally everything worked the way it was, there'd be no sense in complaining because the shows were just so good, IMO, they never did a disservice by doing things how they did (especially because Barry and Hal were gone in the comics at the time...so it was kind of nice in a way that they incorporated the feelings of them in there the way they did, in a "spiritual" sense I guess you could say).
 
Anyone see the Infinite Crisis trailer yet? I thought The Flash looks pretty good in it:

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(they all do actually... cept the collar on Superman, they look good)
 
Loki882 said:
I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, so I will:
http://www.spoilertv.com/2014/03/arrow-episode-219-man-under-hood-leaked.html

Looks like:
Vibe and Killer Frost (pre-superpowers)
are guest-starring on Arrow, which is weird if Barry isn't also going to appear.
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Is that the same episode which was originally going to bring Barry back, and have him debut as The Flash, before they changed their plans after the reception to his first appearance? If so maybe they still kept big elements of that original episode, minus The Flash.
 
@Kevin you are a hard man to please, no getting around it lol. But you are a man of convictions.

Although, GL's animation was geared towards kids I felt that the stories obviously catered to an older demo say preteens on up, especially in the wake of popular books, tv shows and films targeted at young adults.

I didn't have any problem with YJ only that it was cut short. I would've really liked to see Wally come back and be the fastest speedster of them all. But oh well.

It enjoyed LOSH. I didn't elevate the DCAU or hinder it IMO. IT was just a show about young Supes in the future with some decent animation and okay stories.

To each their own though.
 
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Midnight Black said:
@Kevin you are a hard man to please, no getting around it lol. But you are a man of convictions.

Although, GL's animation was geared towards kids I felt that the stories obviously catered to an older demo say preteens on up, especially in the wake of popular books, tv shows and films targeted at young adults.

I didn't have any problem with YJ only that it was cut short. I would've really liked to see Wally come back and be the fastest speedster of them all. But oh well.

I enjoyed LOSH. I didn't elevate the DCAU or hinder it IMO. IT was just a show about young Supes in the future with some decent animation and okay stories.

To each their own though.
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The fact that the LAST SHOT in the series finale of YJ finally showed us Darkseid (my favorite DC villain) drove me crazy. I hate shows that end on cliffhangers that will never be resolved, and this one was particularly bad.
 
Loki882 said:
The fact that the LAST SHOT in the series finale of YJ finally showed us Darkseid (my favorite DC villain) drove me crazy. I hate shows that end on cliffhangers that will never be resolved, and this one was particularly bad.
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Yeah, I think that will go down as one of the worse in cartoon history.
 
Loki882 said:
The fact that the LAST SHOT in the series finale of YJ finally showed us Darkseid (my favorite DC villain) drove me crazy. I hate shows that end on cliffhangers that will never be resolved, and this one was particularly bad.
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There should be a 90 minute DTV follow up .
 
Oh Grant....
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Knowing Grant he probably put it on the internet himself. He has no shame showing off his sexyness.
 
He cares about his fans. :o
 
Well, that was a... more than bizarre gif. Shows that Grant is in very good shape though, got a great running build.
 
I did a google search on the image and it turns out it's Olympic Diver Chris Mears. Primal, YOU LIED TO MEEE!!!

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I'd offer you a tissue if you weren't already holding a box
 
Midnight Black said:
@Kevin you are a hard man to please, no getting around it lol. But you are a man of convictions.
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Lol....thanks, I guess. ;)

Although, GL's animation was geared towards kids I felt that the stories obviously catered to an older demo say preteens on up, especially in the wake of popular books, tv shows and films targeted at young adults.

I didn't have any problem with YJ only that it was cut short. I would've really liked to see Wally come back and be the fastest speedster of them all. But oh well.

It enjoyed LOSH. I didn't elevate the DCAU or hinder it IMO. IT was just a show about young Supes in the future with some decent animation and okay stories.

To each their own though.
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You know in truth I'd probably have to watch LOSH again, although my opinion will probably remain the same on it, but maybe i should do it anyway just to be fair, I pretty much disliked it so much while it was on, after about 8 or so episodes I just gave up on it, that's how bad I thought it was.

Buuuut...to each their own.

YJ really did handle the Flash dynamics pretty well I thought....I thought George Eads was awesome as Barry Allen/The Flash. I'd love to see a show about that Flash lineup. Was sad to see Wally go but it was almost like he didn't serve much purpose now that Bart was there, so while the fan in me (who likes Wally West, but after Barry, Barry is my favorite :D lol ) wishes Wally would have stuck around, I can kind of see why they may have done what they did from a writing standpoint, even if sending Bart back to the future would have been simpler. But oh well. I enjoyed it anyway.
 
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