Arrow The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread - Part 2

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The childhood friend thing still annoys me. Not only it is cliche and redundant, but it just screams of "THIS IS OUR HERO'S TRUE LOVE!"

Just once, why can't we have a "true love" that the protagonist just met not too long ago? After all, that's how real life works in most cases.
 
It's too cliche so they should do it the way it's done in most cases instead? :huh:
 
The childhood friend thing still annoys me. Not only it is cliche and redundant, but it just screams of "THIS IS OUR HERO'S TRUE LOVE!"

Just once, why can't we have a "true love" that the protagonist just met not too long ago? After all, that's how real life works in most cases.

I don't know if this is still true but in the early 2000's a number like 85% of people marry someone who lives within a 20 mile radius of their home. That number maybe lower now with women waiting til later to marry and internet dating.

It maybe cliche but probably everyone has a childhood friend who'd like to date or had a secret crush on. So instantly most people are going to able to relate with these two people.
 
The childhood friend thing still annoys me. Not only it is cliche and redundant, but it just screams of "THIS IS OUR HERO'S TRUE LOVE!"

Just once, why can't we have a "true love" that the protagonist just met not too long ago? After all, that's how real life works in most cases.

It's not really horribly a cliché in this case. because
1. the interracial thing. Iris is only black in this show not the comics, but it does make things a little different and this is post new 52.
2. they probably figure at least half the audience is rooting for Barry/ Felicity Who at most will make a few appearances in this show anyway
 
Just because she is black does not make it any less cliche. But if they don't go through with the "I was crushing on her as a kid but she never noticed me" bit, ill be fine with it.
 
Cisco Ramon screen test.
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Sounds a lot like a Fitzsimmons (Agents of Shield) deal to me

Well Clark and Lana weren't adversaries and were much more hated than Ollie/Laurel. Sometimes if you try to force the "epic" pairing down the audience throat it causes a tidal wave of backlash.

Flash is also starting out with it's Felicity from the get go with Killer Frost, if she breakout with the audience than Barry/Iris is DOA.

The original The Flash show did away with Iris early on in favor of a certain scientist love interest, so they got one strike against them already.
 
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Sounds a lot like a Fitzsimmons (Agents of Shield) deal to me


[BLACKOUT]hahahaha the earpiece, awesome[/BLACKOUT]

that acting though
 
I don't know if this is still true but in the early 2000's a number like 85% of people marry someone who lives within a 20 mile radius of their home. That number maybe lower now with women waiting til later to marry and internet dating.

Doesn't mean they were childhood friends. 20 miles is pretty big. They could have met at a nearby college or nearby high school.

It maybe cliche but probably everyone has a childhood friend who'd like to date or had a secret crush on. So instantly most people are going to able to relate with these two people.

Yes, but that doesn't mean they always end up getting together. As in "married and happily ever after" together. And again, why does it always have to be the childhood friend route? Especially since Arrow has already went that route.

It's not really horribly a cliché in this case. because
1. the interracial thing. Iris is only black in this show not the comics, but it does make things a little different and this is post new 52.
2. they probably figure at least half the audience is rooting for Barry/ Felicity Who at most will make a few appearances in this show anyway

1) That's irrelevant. Her being black doesn't make it any more or less cliche.
2) That's also irrelevant. And if they figure people will be rooting for Barry/Felicity, why shove Barry/Iris down people's throats? [which comes with the childhood friend route; when a character meets his true love at a later point in life, it is usually downplayed a bit (i.e. Peter Parker & Gwen/MJ).]
 
So Vibe is the Felicity!

Yep.

Can superheroes do anything for themselves these days? Outside of Peter Parker at least...

Just give me my damn Flash costume. I've decided I don't care how we get there as long as we get there.

Excited at reference to Mirror Master though!!
 
The childhood friend thing still annoys me. Not only it is cliche and redundant, but it just screams of "THIS IS OUR HERO'S TRUE LOVE!"

Just once, why can't we have a "true love" that the protagonist just met not too long ago? After all, that's how real life works in most cases.

Yeah, I'm not really wild about any of that, they didn't even know each other as kids/teens in the comics, that they meet in college/as adults through their own respective lines of work I like much better and is much better story wise....but she's his black foster psychologist step-sister in this version so **** it.
 
Yep.

Can superheroes do anything for themselves these days? Outside of Peter Parker at least...

Just give me my damn Flash costume. I've decided I don't care how we get there as long as we get there.

Excited at reference to Mirror Master though!!

If that dialogue is any indicator be happy the ear piece is going to be gold and act as a two way communication device that's pretty damn close to comic accurate. Just because he doesn't come up with the intial idea doesn't mean he's not part of its construction.
 
Since the Flash can time travel, I'd love to see multiverse and anti-matter universe stories.

Barry's ultimate villain could be the Anti-Monitor.
 
>CISCO: OK. Caitlin will be monitoring your vitals, and Hartley, your velocity and kinetic energy accumulation.

>BARRY: And what do you do?

>CISCO: I make the toys, man! Check this out.

>BARRY: What is it?

>CISCO: A two-way earpiece I modified. It's typically designed to combat battlefield impulse noise. Like the one you created at the bank the other day. Shattered the school's mirror and send that psycho to his knees. Which, by the way, was awesome.

>BARRY: Uh... Thanks.

>CISCO: We'll be able to stay in contact next time you're off and running to the rescue. Of course... The electrical field you generate could short it out...

>BARRY: What if we add metallic conducting points to separate and drawn the static build-up?

>CISCO: Here... And maybe here. In gold.

>BARRY: Gold?

>CISCO: It's a great conductor.

>BARRY: Sounds a little flashy.

>CISCO: It should be flashy. We want people to spot you.

>BARRY: We do?

>CISCO: Barry... It's been nothing but grief and anger since the explosion. Everyone in Central City has lost something. Hartley's eardrums were ruptured. Mr. Wells was paralyzed. People died. You're the only good thing that happened because of that explosion. You slow down just for a second so people see you, and... You're gonna give them hope again.

>BARRY: No pressure.

>CISCO: I don't think the lightning bolt just hit you, man. I think it chose you. Hear that?

>BARRY: What?

>CISCO: It's destiny calling. And he's asking for both of us.
I like how they're justifying the lightning bolts on the mask.
 
Was this posted? The showrunners' old script. They already used some stuff from it on the show.

>Barry Allen is a forensic analyst for the Central City Police Department. As a child, his mother was murdered, and his father was blamed. Barry became a cop to prove his innocence.

>After his mother's death, Barry was adopted by the Wests, parents of his childhood friend Iris West. Barry and Iris always had feelings for one another, but never acted out on them.

>Barry is called to investigate an unidentified woman found dead near the riverbank. He believes she might have been exposed to extremely low temperatures and requests a spectrometer analysis from Captain Fred Chyre, but is denied.

>Barry breaks into S.T.A.R. Labs to use their spectrometer, but is caught by a scientist, Valerie. She takes a liking to him and agrees to analyze the samples and send him the data.

>Barry goes to Iris' apartment and finds out she's engaged to a banker, Nathan Newbury. Iris has recently lost her job as an investigative reporter for the Central City Daily and becomes an independent blogger.

>Valerie sends Barry the data. While he's studying it, he's struck by lightning and thrown and bathed in chemical products. He awakens in S.T.A.R. Labs, and finds out that the accident has given him superspeed. Dr. Eobard Thawne, the wheelchair-bound CEO of S.T.A.R. Labs, vows to help Barry and selects a team of scientists, led by Valerie, to test his powers.

>Barry bonds with Valerie and she finds out he's a comic book fan, particularly of the Flash, Jay Garrick. Thawne mentors Barry in how to control his powers and reveals his plans to build a particle accelerator and explore the Multiverse.


>When Barry returns home, he reunites with Iris, and they share a moment before he is reminded she's engaged and she regretfully leaves.

>Barry confirms that the unidentified woman was frozen to death and finds out the responsible is Leonard "Cold" Snart, a serial killer who watched his entire family burn to death in a house fire, and became obsessed with the cold.

>Chyre issues an arrest warrant for Cold, and is later kidnapped by him. Cold executes Chyre on live television and announces he'll destroy a Central City landmark in five days.

>Barry and Iris work together and figure out Cold's target is the Central City Train Station. Barry heads there and evacuates the entire place before a bomb Cold planted is detonated. Iris watches the CCTV footage of the evacuated and catches glimpses of Barry in action. Though she doesn't see his face, she begins writing about the "guardian angel", and Barry becomes concerned his identity will be exposed.

>Barry and the scientists go to a bar to celebrate what Barry has accomplished without Thawne knowing. Iris and Nathan are passing by and spot Barry with Valerie. Iris gets jealous. Barry and Valerie have sex.

>Barry is decided to catch Cold before he makes another victim. Valerie gives him an experimental uniform she made without Thawne's permission, based in Garrick's old suit from the comics. She calls Barry "The Flash".

>Barry figures out that Nathan is Cold's next target and rescues him and Iris just as Cold attacks them. He defeats Cold, who is arrested, and saves Nathan, who is nearly frozen to death. He later leaves a note to the paramedics with instructions on how to proceed with Nathan, and Iris recognizes the handwriting, deducing that Barry is the Flash.

>At the hospital, Nathan confides with Iris that he laundered money for the people that Cold later killed, and their investments were all connected to S.T.A.R. Labs. Iris is disgusted Nathan withheld this information to preserve his reputation and breaks up with him.

>Barry interrogates Cold, who announces "he" is coming. Suddenly, Barry is attacked by a black-clad speedster, Zoom, who tells him to "stop running" and reveals himself as the murdered of Barry's mother.

>Barry confides with Iris that he's scared of what Zoom might do, but Iris encourages him to be strong.

>Meanwhile, Valerie finds out Thawne is planning to use the particle accelerator to steal Barry's speed. Thawne suddenly rises from his chair and snaps Valerie's neck.

>Barry finds out Valerie was murdered and deduces Thawne is responsible. Meanwhile, Zoom plants bombs across Central City and breaks out the inmates of Iron Heights Penitentiary, including Cold.

>Barry defuses the bomb and assists the police in recapturing the criminals. Meanwhile, Cold kidnaps Iris and takes her to S.T.A.R. Labs on Zoom's instruction.

>Barry arrives there and confronts Zoom, who reveals that he comes from a parallel Universe where Barry is the Flash, and defeated him many times. Wanting revenge, Zoom crossed over into another dimension, murdered Barry's parents and tortured him his entire life, while secretly building the particle accelerator with the objective of travelling through the entire Multiverse, finding each version of Barry Allen and torturing them to the breaking point. After he's done, he'll destroy each Universe, so Barry can know how many people he failed.

>Zoom also plans to steal the speed of all versions of Barry after they receive their powers. Once he's powerful enough, he'll undo Barry from creation itself, and reshape History across the Multiverse to his liking.


>Zoom activates the particle accelerator and orders Cold to kill Iris. Cold throws a needle at her, but Barry backhands it into Cold's chest, and he dies feeling "warm".

>Barry fights Zoom and taps into the Speed Force. Once Zoom is defeated, Barry leaves him there, where Zoom is trapped forever.

>Barry destroys the particle accelerator before it destroys the Universe, and is briefly pulled into the threshold of the Multiverse and catches a glimpse of Zoom's home Universe, where his parents are alive, happy and proud of his accomplishments as the Flash.

>Barry is returned to his original Universe and reunites with Iris. Inspired by his legacy and the memory of his parents, he decides to continue fighting crime as The Flash. Barry and Iris develop a romantic relationship.

>In an after-credits scene, Barry runs into Green Lantern Hal Jordan, impressed that Barry can reach the speed of light.
 
That guy playing Vibe was like Felicity Smoak played by Mario Lopez. not good:lmao:
 
If that dialogue is any indicator be happy the ear piece is going to be gold and act as a two way communication device that's pretty damn close to comic accurate. Just because he doesn't come up with the intial idea doesn't mean he's not part of its construction.

That's true, I'm very happy about that. Who knows how much of this will remain in tact for the show though, but that does make me happy. :up:
 
Slightly off topic but does anyone have a link or copy of Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman audition (assuming she had one) by any chance?
 
I wish I could've auditioned for something.

Hey...I'm young and black...I could be Wally West. Thoughts, Kevin? :woot:
 
Slightly off topic but does anyone have a link or copy of Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman audition (assuming she had one) by any chance?

The auditions that actually get a certain actor the role they were auditioning for don't tend to make it online. At least not at this stage in the game.
 
I have to be honest. I love most of what we know of the show so far, but I am really disappointed in the direction they're taking the supporting cast.
 
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