Arrow The Barry Allen/The Flash Thread - Part 2

[Shikamaru]

I'm still really looking forward to the show. I just don't like every single detail I heard about it. What a shock.

 

[Kevin Smith]

The auditions that actually get a certain actor the role they were auditioning for don't tend to make it online. At least not at this stage in the game.

Ah yeah that's true. Good point.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I wish I could've auditioned for something.

Hey...I'm young and black...I could be Wally West. Thoughts, Kevin? t:

But you're not funny... so no.

**** black Wally West.

But if he appears in the show I think The Boy Scout would be all wrong for the part of black Wally West regardless.

 

[Sawyer]

I'm still really looking forward to the show. I just don't like every single detail I heard about it. What a shock.

And that's fine, but I don't see what's to be really disappointed with in the supporting cast, when all we have is one-sentence descriptions to go off of and a poorly done audition by an actor who didn't even get the part. I mean, is it the Iris being Barry's friend thing? Still?

 

[Rorschach2012]

Once again....Someone's overly defensive of Arrow and The Flash...

People SHOULD be critical of this stuff. This is beloved material being adapted here. If the fanbase blindly accepts every aspect of these comic book adaptations, the studios will stop caring about pleasing us, since we'd be so easy to please.

 

[Sawyer]

That's a quick and easy way to justify a great deal of the fan *****ing that goes on around the Hype.

 

[Kevin Smith]

And that's fine, but I don't see what's to be really disappointed with in the supporting cast, when all we have is one-sentence descriptions to go off of and a poorly done audition by an actor who didn't even get the part. I mean, is it the Iris being Barry's friend thing? Still?

Well....the characterization for Iris and Barry given really does suck in comparison to the comics...there's really no way around that. It is pretty bad.


But there's still a bunch of other stuff to look forward to...like what will hopefully be an awesome Flash suit, Barry doing lab stuff and being late, and cool special effects for The Flash and his powers.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Once again....Someone's overly defensive of Arrow and The Flash...

People SHOULD be critical of this stuff. This is beloved material being adapted here. If the fanbase blindly accepts every aspect of these comic book adaptations, the studios will stop caring about pleasing us, since we'd be so easy to please.

While I don't think they care THAT much about what we think I agree 100%.

 

[Sawyer]

Well....the characterization for Iris and Barry given really does suck in comparison to the comics...there's really no way around that. It is pretty bad.


But there's still a bunch of other stuff to look forward to...like what will hopefully be an awesome Flash suit, Barry doing lab stuff and being late, and cool special effects for The Flash and his powers.

The characterization that we have yet to actually see in action?

 

[Rorschach2012]

That's a quick and easy way to justify a great deal of the fan *****ing that goes on around the Hype.

I like that people complain on here. If this place was only for praise it'd be boring. I'm glad that people like you aren't the only people on here! The conversations would go around in circles. There's a name for that... a conversation that goes in circles, where you're just praising everything... something to do with "jerk" and "circles" .... blast! what is that called again?

 

[Capt. Marvelous]

Once again....Someone's overly defensive of Arrow and The Flash...

People SHOULD be critical of this stuff. This is beloved material being adapted here. If the fanbase blindly accepts every aspect of these comic book adaptations, the studios will stop caring about pleasing us, since we'd be so easy to please.

Well to be fair, this isn't a studio thing.

It's a CW drama. Ultimately this will play out as the CW version of Flash. Even Arrow couldn't escape that.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Well to be fair, this isn't a studio thing.

It's a CW drama. Ultimately this will play out as the CW version of Flash. Even Arrow couldn't escape that.

Uhhh look at Arrow. Arrow has made multiple changes that fans have called for. That doesn't mean they for sure make changes based on fan complaints, but it could be considered evidence towards that.

CW is run by WB so it still pretty much is a studio thing. DC comics characters are a big deal,especially right now, i'm sure WB is keeping a close eye on Arrow

 

[Boy Scout]

I have to be honest. I love most of what we know of the show so far, but I am really disappointed in the direction they're taking the supporting cast.

Why's that?

But you're not funny... so no.

Don't hate.

**** black Wally West.

That'll be $50. Cash or check?

But if he appears in the show I think The Boy Scout would be all wrong for the part of black Wally West regardless.

Once again....Someone's overly defensive of Arrow and The Flash...

You should see the Batman vs. Superman forum.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Wally doesn't have to be black. Iris' mother could be white, and Wally could be Iris' nephew on her mother's side.

The Iris actress Candice Patton is half white anyways, so it actually fits.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Yeah I mean who knows... maybe Wally will be all white. Even Irish! They could work the ethnic angle and get him red hair...

 

[Kevin Smith]

The characterization that we have yet to actually see in action?

Given what they've told us do you really want to see it?

I'm sure it will play much better than it reads.

Why would I want to see that? When I like the other written character description - the one that's been around for 50 years better. LOL

 

[Kevin Smith]

Why's that?



Don't hate.

That'll be $50. Cash or check?

You should see the Batman vs. Superman forum.

 

[Loki882]

So someone is complaining about characterization, when we've yet to actually see said characterization. Comic book fans jumping the gun and being knee-jerk pessimists, it never fails. And yes, I'm interested to see how these characters will play off each other.

 

[protocida]

People are still bit**ing it's not exactly like the comics?

 

[Kevin Smith]

People are still bit**ing it's not exactly like the comics?

It's not that it's just that it's not better than the comics. (That particular aspect we were just talking about anyway) If it's not for the better don't do it, is my opinion.

 

[Mr. Dent]

The rest of the leaked dialogue.

Spoiler

>IRIS: Are you ready for the big turn on? Because I agreed to go with you to the atom-smasher's smashing and in return you agreed I get to pick the next five times we go to the movies. Hope you like Channing Tatum, because you two are going to be very close soon.

>BARRY: Iris, I don’t know if I’m going to make it. Your dad kind of tore me a new one...

>IRIS: But seeing this thing go on is like your dream, your sad, nerdy little dream.

>BARRY: It could change everything we know about the universe. The accelerator sends beams, particles, and electron storage rings crashing into one another at high speeds.

>IRIS: Do we really need to stand next to it when it happens?

>BARRY: Statistically speaking any danger is almost an impossibility.

>IRIS: Aren’t you the one that believes in the impossible? That’s what you were looking for in Starling City, wasn’t it?

>BARRY: Kind of.

>IRIS: Did you find it? Or did you make my dad mad for no reason?

>BARRY: I found a girl. I mean, I met one.

>IRIS: A girl! Good for you! When was the last time you went on a date? All you do is hang out with me.

>BARRY: About that. While I was away I got a chance to think about us... You’re my best friend, Iris.

>IRIS: You’re mine too. Why else would I be here?

>BARRY: That’s not what I meant. What I meant was…

>IRIS: I know what you’re going to say, Barry.

>BARRY: I’m not sure you do.

>IRIS: Even though we pretty much grew up in the same house, we’re kind of brother and sister, but we’re not brother and sister, so it could get really weird and awkward talking to me about girls. But I want you to know that it shouldn’t be awkward because there is nothing that I want more than for you to meet the right person that totally loves and adores you for the amazing guy that you are.

>BARRY: ... Took the words right out of my mouth.

>IRIS: Aren’t you glad that I know you so well?
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>IRIS: I’m not thirsty.

>BARRY: Let it keep your hands warm, at least.

>IRIS: ... Thanks.

>BARRY: You OK?

>IRIS: I don’t know what that word means anymore after what I just saw… We saw. How many people?

>BARRY: Iris…

>IRIS: How many?

>BARRY: Twelve. We’ll catch the Trickster, whoever he is...

>IRIS: That’s really fantastic, Barry. You get on that. You catch him. Put him on trial. Put him in jail. Let him wake up every morning and eat breakfast and see the Sun. Unlike that little girl he just slaughtered in the street.

>BARRY: You’re right. It’s not fair. But it’s what makes us not them.

>IRIS: There’s something else.

>BARRY: What?

>IRIS: I swear that I saw something…a flicker of light, a gust of wind... Something that pulled one of the families out of the way of the debris. It was the way that you described it that night... What you saw in your house... The way that your mother was killed.

>BARRY: Iris, I was just a scared kid. I don’t know what I saw.

>IRIS: You told me a million times that what you saw was impossible. Today, I saw the impossible to. And for the first time, I really believed you.

 

[Mr. Dent]

I don't know why but something about this comes off as anime-ish to me

 

[Kevin Smith]

Good god, that Iris/Barry interaction. It's just as bad as I thought. Bleh. Got CW written all over it. Like you have to try to write that bad.

Just show us the ****ing costume so I can decide whether to watch this or not already.

 

[protocida]

It's not that it's just that it's not better than the comics. (That particular aspect we were just talking about anyway) If it's not for the better don't do it, is my opinion.

I remember that same argument being used for Arrow, for several of the aspects that are now highly praised.

So, at least wait until you actually watch an episode before declaring "It's different, so it sucks".

 

[Rorschach2012]

Personally I have no problem with the Iris/Barry dynamic, I think it'll work well within the context of a series. Arrow made some similar changes to Green Arrow's supporting cast.