Homecoming The Box Office Thread

[Panacea]

the key to spider man will be how it's holds go.

Will it hold like GOG2 or like WW.

Who knows for sure ?

I don't think it'll have the legs of either, I do think it'll do better globally though.

 

[Panacea]

The conversation was about the domestic total not international or world wide.

You're wrong either way. In week 5 Wonder Woman had $358m domestically, while Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 had $360m.

 

[Juan1193]

You're wrong either way. In week 5 Wonder Woman had $358m domestically, while Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 had $360m.

I was including weekend 6 estimates. According to BOM She's ahead by about 2 million and it'll only increase more as the the week goes on since WW has strong weekday numbers.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=2017superhero.htm

Anyway WW, SMH and GotG2 are all fighting for the summer DOM crown. Though to be honest I don't think Spidey will pass either

 

[spiderman2]

I was including weekend 6 estimates. According to BOM She's ahead by about 2 million and it'll only increase more as the the week goes on since WW has strong weekday numbers.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdowns/chart/?view=daily&id=2017superhero.htm

Anyway WW, SMH and GotG2 are all fighting for the summer DOM crown. Though to be honest I don't think Spidey will pass either

If it dosnt pass them DOM can it pass them over all WW or can it make more internationaly then the other ones?

 

[Juan1193]

If it dosnt pass them DOM can it pass them over all WW or can it make more internationaly then the other ones?

Its definitely passing them overseas and world wide. Spidey is more popular, especially in Eastern Asia. By how much is the real question.

 

[spider-neil]

Am I correct in thinking Spider-Man hasn't broken 300m domestic since SM3?

 

[Darepool]

Am I correct in thinking Spider-Man has broken 300m domestic since SM3?

Not hard to understand considering the two turds that preceeded this. Sony really did a number.

 

[StormC]

It's weird to see that Spider-Man 2 performed quite a bit behind SM1 despite being near-universally seen as the better movie. I think sequels were a bit less "must see" than they are now in the era of mega franchises and tentpoles.

 

[spider-neil]

It's weird to see that Spider-Man 2 performed quite a bit behind SM1 despite being near-universally seen as the better movie. I think sequels were a bit less "must see" than they are now in the era of mega franchises and tentpoles.

SM2 IMHO suffered from not have a May release. I also think if SM3 were average (just average, not the even good) it would have cleared a billion. It did nearly 900m with lackluster reviews.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

If it dosnt pass them DOM can it pass them over all WW or can it make more internationaly then the other ones?

Spidey will be biggest summer CBM in OS countries and it'll also beat both Vol 2 and Wonder Woman in terms of WW numbers.

Spidey opened to 140 million in 56 OS markets. It'll do (2.8-2.85)xOW to achieve 400 million from these markets. Add in France, Germany, Spain, Japan and China on top of that. TASM2 did 75 million in those countries save for China. China will be unpredictable but you can guesstimate at least 90 million for nao. (400+90+90) = 580 million seems a good bet.

Add 320 million DOM and WW total becomes 900 million. SM:H will be in megabucks territory. Great result for Sony.

 

[iEquinox]

By Sony's Spider-Man standards, it should be seen as great. They couldn't possibly have hoped for better on their own.

That being said, they apparently spent a crazy amount in marketing. I heard a report of $140 Million. If they spent 170 on making the movie, they still have a little while before they break even. But I think they made back their production budget in opening weekend counting international numbers, which is still great.

I'm guessing you misunderstood what the $140M+ number in this deadline article meant? I saw someone else make the same mistake earlier in this thread as well.

http://deadline.com/2017/07/spider-...est-ever-franchise-media-ad-spend-1202125535/

Because that isn't the marketing budget. It's the media value of all adds and promotions for the movie. For minions that number was $593M. It's not acually what the studio spent.

Also, even if they did spend $140M on marketing, it wouldn't actually be a "crazy amount". Tentpole movies often spend more than that. For example TASM2's marketing budget was reported at $180-190M.

 

[ImSGirl95]

Spidey will be biggest summer CBM in OS countries and it'll also beat both Vol 2 and Wonder Woman in terms of WW numbers.

Spidey opened to 140 million in 56 OS markets. It'll do (2.8-2.85)xOW to achieve 400 million from these markets. Add in France, Germany, Spain, Japan and China on top of that. TASM2 did 75 million in those countries save for China. China will be unpredictable but you can guesstimate at least 90 million for nao. (400+90+90) = 580 million seems a good bet.

Add 320 million DOM and WW total becomes 900 million. SM:H will be in megabucks territory. Great result for Sony.

Totally agree with your post. Even TASM 1 and 2 both did ~$500M oveerseas so I can see that as a safe bet for SM:H.

 

[JOE]

This is going to be the first Spider-Man movie EVER to surpass the previous movie domestically. Every movie has been less than the last. Such a breath of fresh air!

SM- 403M
SM2- 373M
SM3- 336M
TASM- 262M
TASM2- 202M
SMHC- >202M

 

[Iceman]

This is going to be the first Spider-Man movie EVER to surpass the previous movie domestically. Every movie has been less than the last. Such a breath of fresh air!

SM- 403M
SM2- 373M
SM3- 336M
TASM- 262M
TASM2- 202M
SMHC- >202M

Ah..interesting stat. Quite a funny one and about time it changed.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

As it'll surpass both ASM films domestically, let's hope it hits $300M.

 

[Iceman]

Should be a reasonable target with that opening. Hopefully can do a fair bit more.

 

[Tony Stark]

Its definitely passing them overseas and world wide. Spidey is more popular, especially in Eastern Asia. By how much is the real question.

This is really the last hope for this summer for a billion dollar film. Maybe Dunkirk, as that looks to be a possible 4x performer and probably will get a limited re-release in December to showcase for Oscars. Outside of that, I don't see another film with potential at a billion. Having said that I don't even think SMH gets there, 850 realistically, hopefully 900M or better.

 

[kedrell]

$900M would make it the highest grossing Spidey film to date.

 

[TheVileOne]

I see it doing similar numbers to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

 

[Iceman]

This is really the last hope for this summer for a billion dollar film. Maybe Dunkirk, as that looks to be a possible 4x performer and probably will get a limited re-release in December to showcase for Oscars. Outside of that, I don't see another film with potential at a billion. Having said that I don't even think SMH gets there, 850 realistically, hopefully 900M or better.

Maybe if the marketing for Dunkirk can convince overseas audiences that it has the scale of an event film. Otherwise yes, going to be difficult for any summer films to cross the line over a billion

 

[TheVileOne]

Spider-Man Homecoming won't make a billion, calling it right now. I see it finishing somewhere in $800-900 million range.

 

[slimshady247]

It's definitely not making it to a billion. It's a solo film and it's going up against War for the Planet of the Apes and Dunkirk. Not exactly small fry competition.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah, the juice just isn't there. What's the last movie to make over a billion worldwide? I think Fate of the Furious. That made $1 billion overseas alone. Spidey doesn't have that kind of juice.

Rogue One made a billion as well. Just over a billion worldwide. And it opened much higher than Spider-Man.

 

[spiderman2]

Any one see any final weekend numbers? I know like late Saturday night and yesterday it was at like 117 million or something but it would be nice if that number went up and it got 120.

 

[StormC]

117 million is a great number. No reason to be disappointed with it.