Homecoming The Box Office Thread

[FunkMiller]

I take it that you're a Batman fan? The Spider-Man trilogy outgrossed the Nolan trilogy and all Batman's movies have grossed less than all the Spider-Man movies combined. Spider-Man is without a doubt the biggest superhero even despite the TASM movies damaging the brand.

Nope.

Spider-Man total take is just under 4 billion worldwide for whole series up to ASM2.

Batman total take is 4.1 billion worldwide for whole series up to TDKR.

So they're actually very similar worldwide unadjusted, with Batman slightly in the lead Add BvS and Homecoming, and I'm sure it'll still be very close!

Domestically and adjusted Batman is clearly in the lead though, by an entire billion dollars:

Batman 3.1 billion adjusted domestic up to TDKR

Spider-Man 2.1 billion adjusted domestic to ASM2.

 

[Juan1193]

Hmmm. Fairly sure when you adjust for inflation that isn't correct. Batman 89 was a juggernaut, BR took less, but was still huge, BF was a massive hit, B&R wasn't obviously, but Nolan trilogy was huge overall, and even though BvS was a piece of crap, it still took a fair big chunk of change. Six Spider-man movies, of which some underperformed? Not disputing you might be right entirely, but I'd want to see properly adjusted figures before believing it.

He isn't correct. Batman is the undisputed champ at the box office. Batman 89 broke records during its tenure and the Dark Knight did the same. Also Bats has two 1 billion dollar solo films, Spidey has zero. Heck Batman and Iron-Man are the only heroes to have accomplished that feat so far. Cap needed the Avengers to reach that milestone.

You said the next 1.5 billion movie comes this November. JL won't make 1.5 billion and i'm not even sure it's gonna make a billion. Screengrab my comment if you like. JL is nowhere the popularity the Avengers are right now and this is a fact.

Look at the quote again. The poster said "Get back to me when the DCEU makes a billion grosser let alone a 1.5 billion one". JL will crack a billion, maybe more if it's decent hence why I said " This November".

Anyway we're getting off topic so if you want to discuss this further theres the JL box office thread and WW box office thread(for that 800 million prediction). Catch me over there

 

[FunkMiller]

He isn't correct. Batman is the undisputed champ at the box office. Batman 89 broke records during its tenure and the Dark Knight did the same. Also Bats has two 1 billion dollar solo films, Spidey has zero. Heck Batman and Iron-Man are the only heroes to have accomplished that feat so far. Cap needed the Avengers to reach that milestone.

Look at the quote again. The poster said "Get back to me when the DCEU makes a billion grosser let alone a 1.5 billion one". JL will crack a billion, maybe more if it's decent hence why I said " This November".

Anyway we're getting off topic so if you want to discuss this further theres the JL box office thread and WW box office thread(for that 800 million prediction). Catch me over there

Yeah, did some digging for numbers and changed my post above to reflect them! Batman is clearly in the lead at the cinema. As he is in comic book sales. Spidey is top dog in merchandising though, no disputing that - though Batman leads in high end, expensive merch. Spidey still dominates the rest though. The gap is closing a fair bit, but Spidey still has it by some margin.

...and Not sure JL will crack a billion myself, but, as you say, that's a topic for another forum!

 

[Ozbridge]

If SMH also decline 22% like SM 3 on Sunday then Sunday number will be 28.7M for a 50.5 + 36.8 + 28.7 = 116M opening weekend.

In order to reach 120M OW Sunday decline must be less than 11.1% (32.7M Sunday). That's quite tough.

Elaborate a little more on my previous post:

In order to make more than Spider-Man (2002) OW (114.8M) and become 14th highest OW for a superhero movie, SMH needs to drop no more than 25.3% on Sunday (for 27.5M Sunday).

To pass Man of Steel OW (116.6M) and become 13th highest OW for a superhero movie, SMH needs to drop no more than 20.4% on Sunday (for 29.3M Sunday).

Highest OW for Superhero movies (Rank | Movie | OW | Total)

1 Marvel's The Avengers | $207,438,708 | $623,357,910
2 Avengers: Age of Ultron | $191,271,109 | $459,005,868
3 Captain America: Civil War | $179,139,142 | $408,084,349
4 Iron Man 3 | $174,144,585 | $409,013,994
5 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice | $166,007,347 | $330,360,194
6 The Dark Knight Rises | $160,887,295 | $448,139,099
7 The Dark Knight | $158,411,483 | $534,858,444
8 Spider-Man 3 | $151,116,516 | $336,530,303
9 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 | $146,510,104 | $384,949,006
10 Suicide Squad | $133,682,248 | $325,100,054
11 Deadpool | $132,434,639 | $363,070,709
12 Iron Man 2 | $128,122,480 | $312,433,331
13 Man of Steel | $116,619,362 | $291,045,518
14 Spider-Man | $114,844,116 | $403,706,375

 

[Blitzkrieg]

http://deadline.com/2017/07/spider-man-homecoming-box-office-opening-1202124834/

Sony hasn’t officially reported yet, so this is off early morning industry estimates. Spider-Man: Homecoming counted an estimated $37M last night, now putting it on track for a $116M-$118M opening

 

[Blitzkrieg]

https://***********/BORReport/status/884064690266980352

BoxOfficeReport
@BORReport

Spider-Man: Homecoming debuted with an estimated $117.0M this weekend.

#SpiderManHomecoming #BoxOffice

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Hopefully it hits $120M!!!!

 

[The Joker]

What a beautiful sight.

 

[Flint Marko]

I've had news alerts from several sources on my phone for several years now, but I never once got a notification telling me about the weekend's box office until today. Not sure why that changed, but CNN felt this movie's box office was important enough to send out a notification!

 

[Iceman]

Nice to get past the quarter billion mark on the first weekend. Spidey is slowly getting back to where he should be. Same quality again for HC2 and we should be back in megabucks territory.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Nice to get past the quarter billion mark on the first weekend. Spidey is slowly getting back to where he should be. Same quality again for HC2 and we should be back in megabucks territory.

SM:H will be in megabucks territory as well. Dom weekend was a bit front-loaded but the WOM should be very good. Barring Iron-Man, all the other MCU origin movies has multiplier close to 2.7xOW (An-Man has 3.15xOW but I'm considering it the outlier). That'll bring the DOM gross to (117x2.7)=315.9 million. That will be a very good result.

 

[Silver Surfer]

That comes in November t:

If Wonder Woman was ripped to shreds by critics/audiences and made half of what she has currently made you would have been in the DCEU threads non-stop posting your doom and gloom. I know your game

If WW was ripped to shred by critics/audiences it would deserve that, duh. No bad movie should be celebrated.

And as for JL making a billion, or 1.5 billion? It'll be lucky to make BvS money. No shot.

 

[DACrowe]

Good on Homecoming. After more folks see this one due to WOM in theaters or on Netflix/streaming, it will make the next one a far bigger deal. I could see the sequel besting Spider-Man 3 in terms of openings.

 

[Faith_Cassidy]

What a beautiful sight.

I was expecting the domestic total to be a tad higher, but that is still a very good number, all things considered. 800M WW certainly seems within reach.

 

[ssj wolverine]

Very happy. After the past 3 garbage outings by Sony, as expected Marvel got it right

 

[Blitzkrieg]

It has opened in 56 markets and still has Germany, France, Spain, China & Japan. OS+DOM is in very good shape.

 

[Iceman]

SM:H will be in megabucks territory as well. Dom weekend was a bit front-loaded but the WOM should be very good. Barring Iron-Man, all the other MCU origin movies has multiplier close to 2.7xOW (An-Man has 3.15xOW but I'm considering it the outlier). That'll bring the DOM gross to (117x2.7)=315.9 million. That will be a very good result.

It will do fine but I meant serious megabucks.

The sequel will have this film as last point of reference rather than TASM2 and some average years before that.

 

[DieSmiling]

Very nice number but I'm disappointed it didn't hit 125. Curious what the drop is next weekend.

 

[writer0327]

It has opened in 56 markets and still has Germany, France, Spain, China & Japan. OS+DOM is in very good shape.

I think this is going to go over well in China and Japan. The humor seems to fit the films that work well in those countries.

 

[StormC]

Very nice number but I'm disappointed it didn't hit 125. Curious what the drop is next weekend.

As someone who has Homecoming as his favorite film of the year so far, I'll be a little disappointed if Apes loses to it. If Homecoming gets 55M and Apes can get 60-70M, I'll be happy with that.

 

[DieSmiling]

As someone who has Homecoming as his favorite film of the year so far, I'll be a little disappointed if Apes loses to it. If Homecoming gets 55M and Apes can get 60-70M, I'll be happy with that.

Those numbers feel about right. Kind if curious how Apes plays. The first two were hits but didn't really break out. This one seems to be the best if early reviews are to be believed. If Spidey could win next weekend that would be very impressive.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah if the next Spider-Man movie is also good/great it is a lock for like 1.5 billion I think.

$1B I think might be possible if it received the same reception as this one. I don't think solo hero films have enough event film status to get those extra dollars overseas. The over a billion club is dominated by ensemble films where the focus of the film is not on just one main character's story.

 

[spiderman2]

Hopefully it hits $120M!!!!

That would be nice.

$1B I think might be possible if it received the same reception as this one. I don't think solo hero films have enough event film status to get those extra dollars overseas. The over a billion club is dominated by ensemble films where the focus of the film is not on just one main character's story.

I don't think movies have to be event film status to get to a billion any more. A billion is not what it used to be with inflation with 3d, inflation, bigger internation market etc. Like I said dark knight and rises both made a billion with out 3d with out 3d and Spider-Man is even more popular. There is no reason that a good/great Spider-Man movie shouldn't be able to do crazy big numbers. This movie is most likely going to do like what 800 million maybe a billion and that is after 3 so so bad Spider-Man movies and also a 2nd reboot that has turned a lot of people away and this is going to get people back for the next one with how good this movie turned out.

 

[FunkMiller]

And as for JL making a billion, or 1.5 billion? It'll be lucky to make BvS money. No shot.

Yep. BvS seriously underperformed because it was so poor. If a great Wonder Woman movie is potentially hitting 800 million, a great Batman/Superman film would have rivalled The Avengers money quite easily.

If (and it's a big IF thanks to Snyder) JL is markedly better than BvS and more along the same lines in terms of quality as Wonder Woman, it could do a billion. As it stands, 900 is the ceiling if it's an okay flick (most likely scenario with Whedon's involvement) or under 800 if it's a turd. It'll probably out perform Ragnarok, but maybe not by much. Don't think it'll do more than Spidey will eventually though.

$1B I think might be possible if it received the same reception as this one. I don't think solo hero films have enough event film status to get those extra dollars overseas. The over a billion club is dominated by ensemble films where the focus of the film is not on just one main character's story.

The Dark Knight movies say hello.

 

[Juan1193]

Im still sticking with my 850-860 million WW range for SMH. 535+ INT and 315+ DOM.