BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread! - Part 4

[Willi Berg]

I thought Faraci said there was something about Lois going to the Middle East for an assignment. And there was that thing about horses from an actor playing a side character.

The actor playing the side character was one of the "Superman soldiers" riding horses in the desert (as seen in one of the trailers.)

 

[Willi Berg]

I thought that it looks like swastika actually.

Yeah, I think it's meant to evoke the swastika symbol without actually being a swastika symbol. A symbol of dictatorship. Whether it's going to mean something more in the movie...

 

[Question]

I see a Z kinda.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if we see Cyborg, Flash, and Aquaman in this vision. Maybe even Green Lantern too.

And anyone else think that Lex/OS is really important? Maybe Braniac in disguise?

 

[Willi Berg]

I see a Z kinda.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if we see Cyborg, Flash, and Aquaman in this vision. Maybe even Green Lantern too.

And anyone else think that Lex/OS is really important? Maybe Braniac in disguise?

We've got Brainiac and Darkseid neck and neck for JL1. Who's on first?

 

[Lily Adler]

I can see Brainiac as the main baddie with an after credit scene hinting Darkseid.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Being that JL is two parts frankly I won't be surprised if it's just a mega Darkseid as the baddie two part story. I mean, think about it... Darkseid, Apokalips, his forces, New Genisis, Highfather, Orion, the New Gods in general... Do you all really think that you can handle ALL of that, even half of that, in one film AND juggle seven super heroes and what ever arcs and subplots and character interactions that they bring to the table? I can't see part one having a different antagonist than part two.

 

[matt47]

I'm not too sure if it is two parts after Roven's interview. I'll try and find exactly what he said but he made it out as if the two weren't as connected as a two part movie.
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Ahh so what he says is that they aren't shooting back to back.
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[Willi Berg]

Being that JL is two parts frankly I won't be surprised if it's just a mega Darkseid as the baddie two part story. I mean, think about it... Darkseid, Apokalips, his forces, New Genisis, Highfather, Orion, the New Gods in general... Do you all really think that you can handle ALL of that, even half of that, in one film AND juggle seven super heroes and what ever arcs and subplots and character interactions that they bring to the table? I can't see part one having a different antagonist than part two.

Depends on how much they want to go into the whole New Gods mythology. I would love for the whole New Gods story to be shown, but there's enough for their own movie/s for that.

But you're right that they have a lot to show with seven heroes.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Don't know about a sword but a Kryptonite lance was rumored.

What is a Kryptonite lance?

 

[Tensor]

What is a Kryptonite lance?

It's a lance made of Kryptonite.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

It's a lance made of Kryptonite.

Stupid question, what is a lance?

 

[Tensor]

Spear.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Spear.

Thank you. Batman using a spear sounds sweet of heck!

 

[Vlyse]

Being that JL is two parts frankly I won't be surprised if it's just a mega Darkseid as the baddie two part story. I mean, think about it... Darkseid, Apokalips, his forces, New Genisis, Highfather, Orion, the New Gods in general... Do you all really think that you can handle ALL of that, even half of that, in one film AND juggle seven super heroes and what ever arcs and subplots and character interactions that they bring to the table? I can't see part one having a different antagonist than part two.

That's why I hope the Parademons theory is wrong or for JL3/JL4. Let the League and the DCEU in general be well-developed before introducing this giant 4th world mythology. The 4th world generally has repercussions for heroes, villains, all throughout the DC universe. It could be epic now, but way more epic down the line.

 

[Tensor]

Michael Wilkinson apparently confirmed that it is indeed Bruce's dream. Which means those flying creatures aren't Parademons, thereby debunking the Darkseid invasion vision theory.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I don't know... How or why is Bruce Wayne, the mortal human hero having glimpses of the future that include Flash or Aquaman? Right now I thinking a poor translation.

 

[rogbngp]

Michael Wilkinson apparently confirmed that it is indeed Bruce's dream. Which means those flying creatures aren't Parademons, thereby debunking the Darkseid invasion vision theory.

Well, unless Diana perhaps uses her divine magic to give Bruce a prophetic vision within a dream, I guess. But that's quite a stretch. And a bit convoluted.

 

[Tensor]

Snyder, give us the movie already!!! Grrr... Too much of speculation making me lose sleep.

 

[Charlatan]

The actor playing the side character was one of the "Superman soldiers" riding horses in the desert (as seen in one of the trailers.)

nah the soldiers were at the base, Batman and the other 6 riders came in on horseback.

 

[rogbngp]

I don't know... How or why is Bruce Wayne, the mortal human hero having glimpses of the future that include Flash or Aquaman? Right now I thinking a poor translation.

It could also be that the costume designer simply intended to convey that it takes place in someone's imagination versus physical reality. Perhaps translating 'vision' to the word 'dream', and not actually specifying who has it.

But I actually won't be surprised either if it is purposeful misinformation, serving as a kind of red herring. I have read that during the San Diego Comic-Con that Snyder was asked directly if Doomsday will be created from Zod's corpse, and he denied that it would. But now we're seeing footage in the recent trailer that suggests that is exactly what will be done. If it turns out that way, he flat out lied there. But what was he to do? Give away the secret plot elements that have worked so well to keep interest and anticipation stoked among the fanbase? I can forgive him for that.

If they want to keep things as much of a surprise as possible for opening day, if it means using misinformation I could see them doing that.

I mean, that said, I will take it at face value if the translation is correct. I'm not all 'conspiracy theory' about it. But I also won't be shocked if fans were picking up the scent, and they felt the need to throw us off the trail.

 

[rogbngp]

This is the Google translator version of the article: Batman vs Superman costume designer confirms Bruce Wayne nightmare

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

nah the soldiers were at the base, Batman and the other 6 riders came in on horseback.

And didn't he say he had dialog with Lois?

 

[Charlatan]

This is the Google translator version of the article: Batman vs Superman costume designer confirms Bruce Wayne nightmare

Nice. Aquaman will have 2 costumes in BvS.

Aquaman already had a look inspired by Jason Momoa tattoos. In addition, the Atlantean can have two uniforms in the film. "He'll start one way and will develop for a different look," says Wilkinson.

 

[Willi Berg]

nah the soldiers were at the base, Batman and the other 6 riders came in on horseback.

And didn't he say he had dialog with Lois?

Oh, okay.

 

[BH/HHH]

Being that JL is two parts frankly I won't be surprised if it's just a mega Darkseid as the baddie two part story. I mean, think about it... Darkseid, Apokalips, his forces, New Genisis, Highfather, Orion, the New Gods in general... Do you all really think that you can handle ALL of that, even half of that, in one film AND juggle seven super heroes and what ever arcs and subplots and character interactions that they bring the to the table? I can't see part one having a different antagonist than part two.

Yeah it would have to be two parts, I just wonder how they split it. I'm not a fan of films ending with a ...to be continued or just a cut to black.

Maybe they could do it like STAS where they build it up but do the build up in the first movie then in the second go full blown Darkseid.