BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread! - Part 4

[matt47]

Wilkinson said the story takes place 8 months after the events in MoS. Devil Faraci says it takes place a couple of years after that. Whom am I to believe?

Spoiler

It's an irony of course!

Didn't Zack or someone in one of the magazines say that it took place nearly two years after MoS though?

 

[jokesonm3]

I believe it did say a year and a half in the Empire article.

 

[Captain Shazam]

It said 18 months if I'm not mistaken. Even if it conflicts with Wilkinson said, still not 'a couple of years'.

 

[matt47]

Exactly. So who knows who is right. I personally hope it's as close to MoS as possible.

 

[KillerWolf]

So, by Wilkinson it's 8 months and by Snyder a year and a half. I wonder which one of the two it is...?

 

[Clark-Kent]

Am I the only one that thinks Superman punching/hitting the Batmobile is a fairly obvious idea It wouldn't surprise me if that happens at all but doesn't take inside info to me lol

 

[matt47]

Am I the only one that thinks Superman punching/hitting the Batmobile is a fairly obvious idea It wouldn't surprise me if that happens at all but doesn't take inside info to me lol

He did say this months before the trailer and just the way he worded it made it sound very much like what we have seen.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

He did say this months before the trailer and just the way he worded it made it sound very much like what we have seen.

Thing is, it sounds like Bruce is the one with an axe to grind, and Superman seems to be the one telling him how easy it would be (or so he thinks ) for him to just end this fight. I mean if he knew who his opponent was, and let's be honest it's not just a question of X-Ray vision, there are MANY ways Supes could figure out who Batman is, then the easiest thing to do would be to wait until Bruce is asleep in the early afternoon and just fly over to the mansion and pick him up sans Bat gear and drop him off at the authorities then zip back, grab some evidence from the cave, and BOOM, problem solved...

But perhaps I am being too real world in my approach. t:

 

[Clark-Kent]

Yes Batman v Superman is really a psychological and ideological difference more than anything.

 

[Rogzilla]

He did say this months before the trailer and just the way he worded it made it sound very much like what we have seen.

There was a "leaked" plot summary a while back (pre-SDCC) that does seem to be lining up fairly well, close enough that I am starting to think it was legit. It mentioned, among other things:

• Clark Kent investigating Batman (confirmed at SDCC)
• And Perry being against it (Also SDCC)
• Clark meeting Bruce at a Lex Luthor event (Trailer 2)
• And asking him about the Batman (trailer 2)
• Diana is also at this party (SDCC)
• Superman goes to a hearing run by Senator Finch (SDCC) - she had a different name in the outline, I think the name of a Wonder Woman villain but I can't remember.
• Luthor has Zod's body (SDCC)
• And uses it to make Doomsday (Trailer 2) - these last two were independently rumored.

There are more, but that's what I can think of right now. I obviously won't link it or anything. But I liked the outline and if it is legit, than I feel the movie will be pretty solid, at least in regards to the screenplay. But it could all be coincidence with someone making a lot of lucky guesses, so I suppose we will see.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Okay... Swerve here... This vision/dream...I would say it's fair most think it's in te film proper. What if it is a mid, post credit stinger type deal? Movie ends with Bruce and Clark as allies that have respect for one another but we get the dream as a post film thing portending things in future films?

 

[matt47]

Okay... Swerve here... This vision/dream...I would say it's fair most think it's in te film proper. What if it is a mid, post credit stinger type deal? Movie ends with Bruce and Clark as allies that have respect for one another but we get the dream as a post film thing portending things in future films?

I don't see how that would work because isn't the dream supposedly Bruce's fears of Superman?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I don't see how that would work because isn't the dream supposedly Bruce's fears of Superman?

You mean the same Batman that has a plan to neutralize or kill every JL member out of fear of them turning even after years of working with them?

 

[rogbngp]

Okay... Swerve here... This vision/dream...I would say it's fair most think it's in te film proper. What if it is a mid, post credit stinger type deal? Movie ends with Bruce and Clark as allies that have respect for one another but we get the dream as a post film thing portending things in future films?

Nah, I think it's there to reinforce Batman's animosity and motivation against Superman in the film (initially), to drive home what fuels him to go on an all-out suicide mission to take Supes down.

But as folks have been noting, it just feels 'off' that we have Darkseid's parademons and the Flash appearing in a standard dream! I guess maybe Batman knows about Barry, and possibly something about Darkseid. Batman may just see a 'streak' in the nightmare (Flash) and not relate it to Barry Allen. He may just see harpies in his dream. But based on what we the viewers know of Darkseid, and what a parademon looks like, it makes Batman seem prophetic. Those two particular elements so much more fit your hypothesis that it is Diana's vision.

On the other hand, Superman showing up in that dream/vision as all nasty and evil-overlord-like, more fits a Batman nightmare about what Superman could become versus a vision of a possible future.

It's all very confusing!

 

[dhandler01]

Okay... Swerve here... This vision/dream...I would say it's fair most think it's in te film proper. What if it is a mid, post credit stinger type deal? Movie ends with Bruce and Clark as allies that have respect for one another but we get the dream as a post film thing portending things in future films?

I doubt they would spoil a midcredit scene in two trailers.

 

[KillerWolf]

I don't see how that would work because isn't the dream supposedly Bruce's fears of Superman?

Wilkinson did use both terms - dream and vision.

Many people took it as confirmation that it's just a dream Bruce has, but the way I see it, it can be either of the two - a sort of a false, prophetic nightmare Bruce has due to his paranoia or a vision of future someone gives him. After all the term "dream" doesn't entirely exclude clairvoyance, as when having a vision, person is not in a purely awake state.

 

[Clark-Kent]

Do you guys think there is at least one more villain involved in the movie that we don't know about? I'm thinking the big reveal ain't Doomsday if they putting it out there yo'
!!!!

 

[Clark-Kent]

If lower key villain, I'd go Max Lord

If higher named appearance, maybe even Darkseid or Brainiac just to make an appearance and be PART of the story>>>> but not seen as characters throughout the movie other than a possible reveal.

 

[KillerWolf]

Nah. There's a mastermind and there's a physical villain for Trinity to punch. This film doesn't need any more. Actually, it would be too much.

 

[Clark-Kent]

Nah. There's a mastermind and there's a physical villain for Trinity to punch. This film doesn't need any more. Actually, it would be too much.

You don't even think an underlying villain as a part of the story we don't see (other than a possible bonus reveal at end of movie)? Even with the Darkseid soldiers apparent part of a vision

 

[KillerWolf]

You don't even think an underlying villain as a part of the story we don't see (other than a possible bonus reveal at end of movie)? Even with the Darkseid soldiers apparent part of a vision

Well, at most a teased one for JL film, but not really appearing. More like mentioned or just foreshadowed.

 

[Angel0fDeath]

I don't see the need for another villain.

 

[Clark-Kent]

I don't see the need for another villain.

Not even in the background/possible reveal to setup JL?

 

[Clark-Kent]

I kind of like the idea of another villain being an underlying involvement, that we don't see a full reveal on Setting up a larger story would be cool in that way for connecting everything.

 

[KillerWolf]

I kind of like the idea of another villain being an underlying involvement, that we don't see a full reveal on Setting up a larger story would be cool in that way for connecting everything.

Depends how will they approach the foreshadowing of the "Justice League" that we know is due to happen to some extent... but even if they go more in detail regarding the threat they are about to face in subsequent film(s), I don't think they'll be that explicit when it comes to the villain. Knowing Snyder, some easter eggs might be there, but not much more.