BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread! - Part 4

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I would say that that is a first draft of the script. For example, in the second trailer, they seem to meet Diana during the Doomsday fight, not before that.

I am inclined to believe it too. It's definitely from an early draft based on some of the character names. The fact that it doesn't mention every single detail doesn't discredit it, since it is a high level overview, not to mention those things could have been added later as Terrio fine tuned the screenplay.

If this is a general outline for the movie, I think we've got a winner on our hands.

This and the Faraci script have been fairly accurate considering there posting date:

Batman v Superman opens with Batman's origin and fast forwards to Bruce Wayne coming to Metropolis during the Superman/Zod fight, but that's just setting the stage for that character. From there the script turns its attention to Superman heavily, and it examines the implications of Superman in the real world. The main action takes place a couple of years after the end of Man of Steel, and Superman has been busy in the meantime, becoming the hero we know and love. Clark Kent and Lois Lane have moved their relationship forward to the point where they live together. Clark is still working at the Daily Planet, although it's unclear if he's loving his assignments - he's tasked with covering a Metropolis/Gotham football game when he would rather be writing about Batman.

Very early in the film Lois is in the Middle East following a story when Superman shows up to help her out. This becomes something of an international incident as other nations view Superman as a tool of the United States. China, for instance, doesn't want him in their air space. It's an interesting look at how a being like Superman would be viewed on a global scale.

What are the lessons that Superman learned from Man of Steel? Some slight spoilers follow.

When Superman confronts a big bad guy and unravels his plot, he tells the villain, "I won't snap your neck, I'm going to take you to prison," an on-the-nose response to criticisms of the first movie. Of course Superman later loses his cool and threatens to break the bad guy's back, so he hasn't quite internalized everything yet.

As for being a protector of the people - when the Doomsday fight starts General Swanwick tells the military that Superman will move the battle away from populated areas because he's a hero, and that's what heroes do. Again, this is a direct response to complaints about the first film. It's also interesting to see that Swanwick, who was tracking Superman with drones at the end of Man of Steel, is such a supporter in this film. It seems that most people - except Lex Luthor and a cautious Batman, who is prepping anti-Superman weapons - believe Superman is a hero.



Rumour 2

James Gordon is dead

Rumour 3
In Batman v Superman Superman is no lackey of the government; if anything many of the world's governments distrust the guy. But it is Superman who goes to Gotham and starts the confrontation... at the behest of Lex Luthor. And unlike The Dark Knight Returns, Superman comes out swinging, pulverizing the Batmobile with one punch. Why would Superman do Lex Luthor's bidding? What is Lex hoping to accomplish? That would be spoiling. But know that when the fight is over, Batman will be able to point to Superman and say, "He started it!"

Rumour 4
Doomsday is in the movie.

Rumour 5
Aquaman is barelypresent, showing up only in a survey of metahumans by Lex Luthor and then again at the very ending, when Batman recruits him for the Justice League (see: Dawn of Justice as the title).Flash,Cyborg are also just small roles.
 
Out of every bs leak and fake reviews, I still go back to this one. 6 months ago. Before SDCC and many pics etc.

I, for one, really hope so. Even if it gets a little busy at points, it is still a very effective plot IMO.
 
How can aquaman have a tiny role when theyre making tons of toys and merchs and included him but not flash and cyborg?
 
How can aquaman have a tiny role when theyre making tons of toys and merchs and included him but not flash and cyborg?

I've heard similar stuff about Wonder Woman ("a cameo") and I'm like... "but she's in the trailers!"
 
I mean they went all out and showed images of Jason as Aquaman and included him in almost all toys. I doubt he'll just be a mere cameo. I expect to see him at least fight once.

Here's an educated guess:

Doomsday defeats batman superman and ww but before he kills them a wave comes their way and aquaman joins the fight.
 
I think Aquaman saves the day. He's the other surprise in the third act after Doomsday.

Maybe.
 
I, for one, really hope so. Even if it gets a little busy at points, it is still a very effective plot IMO.

I know what you mean, but I think the busy-ness comes mostly from the way it was written. They sort of front loaded it with exposition that would have gotten spread out more.

But I absolutely agree, its a really solid story that I think a lot of people will like.

And, as everyone else is saying, it would support why Aquaman is important enough to garner an action figure.
 
How can aquaman have a tiny role when theyre making tons of toys and merchs and included him but not flash and cyborg?
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I didn't think about it that way.

But it also makes me wonder why we haven't seen any Doomsday merch yet...
 
So the outline of the old and new rumors appears to be same. Does the old "fake" script is really fake? Is that proven?
 
I think Aquaman saves the day. He's the other surprise in the third act after Doomsday.

Maybe.

I kinda hope Doomsday is unkillable and Aquaman volunteers to lock Doomsday away in the Mariana Trench.
 
I think Aquaman saves the day. He's the other surprise in the third act after Doomsday.

Maybe.

I think Batman has to be crucial to killing him because he needs to be able to stand next to these Gods and seem like he belongs there
 
I agree that reddit that Black Narc posted seems close to a possible draft--closer than anything else. 3 things I really like about it:

1. Aquaman has an actual role.
2. The whole ending.
3. It leads nicely into Suicide Squad
 
Okay sogetight Batman is going around brutally beating down and branding villains with his symbol. The government and Superman do not condone this. Now, as usual. There are people who hate Superman and Like him. Same for Batman. Now the people want Superman to stop Batman from going around. But some believe Batman is a savior who can stop Superman whom is basically a god that can go wrong at anytime[or so batman believes].

So the reports of peoples opinions on the news and Superman confronting Batman make them both prepare to duke it out...or atleast batman prepare to fight supes. Okay. So now I see.
 
Still don't know if the whole "drones are the real 3rd act villain" and "Doomsday is a misdirect" could work. Seems like a climax after a climax, unless of course Doomsday is taken out pretty quickly. I'll give Devin Faraci this he's been right about his BVS scoops,
 
Still don't know if the whole "drones are the real 3rd act villain" and "Doomsday is a misdirect" could work. Seems like a climax after a climax, unless of course Doomsday is taken out pretty quickly. I'll give Devin Faraci this he's been right about his BVS scoops,

Faraci said that it is closer to the actual script but that there are some minor differences between his script and what this guy reported. For all we know, this guy is BSing too and is just making reference to the rumors circulating.

If the drones are a thing, I would expect to see them before Doomsday. Like maybe Batman and Superman realize Luthor is behind everything and they go to get him and he activates the drones. They fail miserably and so he sends out Doomsday.

Or maybe Luthor sends the drones to supplement with Doomsday and they keep Batman and Wonder Woman busy while Superman tries to deal with Doomsday.
 
How can aquaman have a tiny role when theyre making tons of toys and merchs and included him but not flash and cyborg?

Well if you look at the DC Multiverse for BvS, the four they released are of Batman, Armored Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. On the back of those boxes, they reveal that there are going to be 4 more. Now, this line is different from the standard toy line, as this line will not have any variants of any character UNLESS that variant IS IN the movie (ex: Armored Batman). So those next 4 will be characters from BvS.

From what we've seen already, there will be a Lex Luthor figure, and a Knightmare Batman figure, as those two are confirmed and their quality seems to be from the Multiverse line. If that's the case, then the question is who will be the other two. I can figure Aquaman being one of them, for obvious reasons; as for the last one, I can't imagine they wouldn't do Doomsday, as it would be insane not to do him since he is a main baddie the Trinity fights in the movie too. But that's really it.

Now, they could do more figures, but I doubt it because these figures include parts to make the Grapple gun, and after the four released, you only need little more to complete, and that is there the next four will come in.

Honestly, if they don't make a Flash and/or Cyborg figure(s), it might be due to the fact that a) they're being saved for JL, or b) Cyborg isn't Cyborg in BvS, and the Flash cameo which was a rumor isn't true.

My two cents.
 
Out of ALL of the rumors that I've heard for this film, I hope the one about Superman saving Lois overseas from an band of rebels (which supposedly results in him being called into Congress) turns out being true.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want all of Superman's heroics in this film to simply be about him saving people from natural disasters/freak accidents/Doomsday.

I want to see Superman actually tackle some realistic criminals/everyday villains. Plus, I've always wanted to see the concept of what would happen if Superman did get involved in the skirmishes that take place overseas and the ramifications that could come about despite his best intentions.
 
Out of ALL of the rumors that I've heard for this film, I hope the one about Superman saving Lois overseas from an band of rebels (which supposedly results in him being called into Congress) turns out being true.

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want all of Superman's heroics in this film to simply be about him saving people from natural disasters/freak accidents/Doomsday.

I want to see Superman actually tackle some realistic criminals/everyday villains. Plus, I've always wanted to see the concept of what would happen if Superman did get involved in the skirmishes that take place overseas and the ramifications that could come about despite his best intentions.

I agree. I especially like the idea that Superman does it to save Lois. Like, he was purposely not getting involved in things but when Lois is in danger, he throws caution to the wind and goes to save her.

I wonder if maybe that shot of him with the rocket is from that. I always assumed it was a failed space launch but maybe, when Superman shows up, the they decide to pull out the big guns and nuke everyone. But oops, Superman stops the missile and carries the warhead away to avoid contamination.

I'm not familar with rocket types so I don't know if that is that type of rocket.
 
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