BvS The BvS Rumor/Speculation Discussion Thread!

[Citadel30]

Snyder is doing all shootings by himself there is no second unit.

Really? so he has been spotted at every shoot thus far?

Impressive on his part.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Off the top of my head three times.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

Off the top of my head three times.

HEH HEH

 

[NoLaNitE007]

Hell be too busy with the JL movies to have time for the Superman movie.Unless they want to release the Superman movie after 2020.

My Choice for Snyders Replacement is Duncan Jones

Cuaron for JL2

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Cuaron for JL2

He isn't doing an big budget FX movies any time soon and Snyder is already confirmed for JL: Part 2.

 

[The Sage]

From Supermanhomepage...

Spoiler

A paid extra for "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice", who asked to remain anonymous for obvious legal reasons, has exclusively informed the Superman Homepage of two scenes in Detroit he was involved in shooting for the upcoming superhero movie. "The first scene we filmed was with Jeremy Irons", he says. "It was out in a field with young Bruce Wayne. A flashback to the Wayne funeral. The small set was really cool with the hearse vehicles sporting Gotham license plates."
This was the location with the Wayne family mausoleum and a few graves near it which we saw photos of late last month.
"The second scene I was involved in was situated in a half-stadium style set surrounded by tall green screen walls. Henry Cavill was on set dressed as Clark Kent, but did not film with us that day." He continues, "This scene was a parade scene to take place in "Washington D.C.", obviously the CG effects for the surroundings would be placed in post production."
Now for the major spoiler of this report...
"The parade, we were told, was the funeral for the President of the United States."
"I wish I had more pics but our phones were checked in before filming and we didn't get them back until the end of the day."

 

[Bathead]

So, if all that about the President's funeral is true, then the Death of Superman rumors are likely untrue.
Good. I hope it is true. DoS at this point is a monumentally stupid idea.

 

[LaserBees]

I bet it's not the president's funeral. I bet it's Superman's funeral. The extras saw a huge elaborate funeral procession, but they don't know the details of the script, so to keep it a secret they were told it was the president, because honestly if Superman had a funeral it would look the same as the president's.

 

[roach]

wrong thread

 

[Charlatan]

I bet it's not the president's funeral. I bet it's Superman's funeral. The extras saw a huge elaborate funeral procession, but they don't know the details of the script, so to keep it a secret they were told it was the president, because honestly if Superman had a funeral it would look the same as the president's.

yup.

 

[Zionite1]

I bet it's not the president's funeral. I bet it's Superman's funeral. The extras saw a huge elaborate funeral procession, but they don't know the details of the script, so to keep it a secret they were told it was the president, because honestly if Superman had a funeral it would look the same as the president's.

Id be okay with Supes dying if he ressurects as well in the movie.I dont want to wait till Justice league to see him ressurect

 

[Herolee10]

I'm honestly at the point where I don't have enough energy to care anymore as to whether Superman really dies in this film or not.

I've already made my opinion on the matter well known to all, so no point in trying to repeat myself there.

So whatever happens, happens...regardless as to whether we end up liking it or not.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I still think Death of Superman could be worked into this movie. i feel like if they wait too long, it could disrupt the forward momentum of the franchise, but it could also be done really well.

I think two movies is enough to kill off Superman. It doesn't take 3 movies of buildup for a death to have an impact.

 

[Herolee10]

I still think Death of Superman could be worked into this movie. i feel like if they wait too long, it could disrupt the forward momentum of the franchise, but it could also be done really well.

I think two movies is enough to kill off Superman. It doesn't take 3 movies of buildup for a death to have an impact.

Considering everything they have going on in this film, I feel like the "Death" story line would be trimmed significantly if crammed into this.

Even though this film is an eventual setup for the "Justice League" film, it shouldn't feel like the film was made for just that purpose alone. Frankly, it puzzles me a lot on how some (not referring to you) keep wanting to jam MORE AND MORE stuff in this film, especially after we've seen from past comic book films (Spider-Man 3/X-Men 3) on how bad that can end up being for the actual film.

People just want to insert as many Easter Eggs/Story lines into this film and seemingly care less about wanting an actual good film that can stand on its own feet.

Plus, the whole reason for why the "Death" story line worked was because of how long and well established Superman was to the community within the DC Universe.

This film is meant to open up the DC universe more. By the time all is said and done, Superman will probably have just only formed an alliance with Batman at the end of the film.

They could try to force emotions into the setup all they want, but at the end of the day, it won't really hold a candle to the type of impact that Superman's death should have if he died in a period where he was well loved by many on Earth and where he was viewed as a leader/hero by the hero community as well.

But I doubt anything I say will change your mind on the matter since I know that you've lobbied for the Death story line to happen in this film for a long time.

 

[Rorschach2012]

i don't really need to see the full Death of Superman saga unfold onscreen.
I actually kind of liked the idea that Lexcorp created clones from Zod's corpse. Similar to the original Doomsday origin, Lexcorp would repeatedly kill and clone Zod until he's unrecognizable, becoming Doomsday.

 

[Zionite1]

Considering everything they have going on in this film, I feel like the "Death" story line would be trimmed significantly if crammed into this.

Even though this film is an eventual setup for the "Justice League" film, it shouldn't feel like the film was made for just that purpose alone. Frankly, it puzzles me a lot on how some (not referring to you) keep wanting to jam MORE AND MORE stuff in this film, especially after we've seen from past comic book films (Spider-Man 3/X-Men 3) on how bad that can end up being for the actual film.

People just want to insert as many Easter Eggs/Story lines into this film and seemingly care less about wanting an actual good film that can stand on its own feet.

Plus, the whole reason for why the "Death" story line worked was because of how long and well established Superman was to the community within the DC Universe.

This film is meant to open up the DC universe more. By the time all is said and done, Superman will probably have just only formed an alliance with Batman at the end of the film.

They could try to force emotions into the setup all they want, but at the end of the day, it won't really hold a candle to the type of impact that Superman's death should have if he died in a period where he was well loved by many on Earth and where he was viewed as a leader/hero by the hero community as well.

But I doubt anything I say will change your mind on the matter since I know that you've lobbied for the Death story line to happen in this film for a long time.

Whilst i fully agree with you,its obvious the Death of Superman is being used in this story as a means for Superman to win peoples trust.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I think we have evidence to make some healthy grounded speculation at this point, sure, but is it a sure bet? That's a bridge too far in my estimation. We've at best got some puzzle pieces but they could fit in a number of ways, and that's IF these pieces are what we think or hope they are. I figure we still have a very hazy picture on how these elements will fit together.

 

[dhandler01]

Not to mention the logic behind it makes no sense. People hate him for the Zod fight, so he dies in another similar fight and everyone loves him? Zod is more of a threat to the world than Doomsday...hell he was literally destroying it.

 

[Charlatan]

Whilst i fully agree with you,its obvious the Death of Superman is being used in this story as a means for Superman to win peoples trust.

and to justify the need for a Justice League.

 

[Zionite1]

Not to mention the logic behind it makes no sense. People hate him for the Zod fight, so he dies in another similar fight and everyone loves him? Zod is more of a threat to the world than Doomsday...hell he was literally destroying it.

Im assuming He dies another way.It cant be Doomsday for the reasons you stated.It has to be doing something so Valiant the world is forced to realize what he is.

and to justify the need for a Justice League.

Not sure why Supermans absence is needed to justify a Justice League

 

[Charlatan]

Not sure why Supermans absence is needed to justify a Justice League

to take care of things that he would take care of in his absence? to help him with the big threats even he can't handle alone? to prove to the supervillians that just taking out Superman won't win them the day?

As it is ,Luthor's main argument will be that mankind doesn't need meta human or alien help. That he and the military can take care of any threat.
So to prove it he tries to eliminate Superman and prove that he can meet mankind's needs. Which I think will end up badly for him as a new threat that couldn't see coming and can't stop will threaten the Earth with Superman either gone (dead ,self-exile) or incapacitated (captured) and the JL will have to respond.

 

[Bathead]

I still say a DoS storyline is a hugely stupid idea this early in the franchise. You don't need him to die to inspire the birth of the League. To have Supes die, then form the league as a result just to have him resurface again is exrtremely cheap and cheesy. And what people are citing as evidence is specious at best. Saying that it being the POTUS' funeral is less beliveable that it being for Supes is reaching.

 

[AnneFan]

Not to mention the logic behind it makes no sense. People hate him for the Zod fight, so he dies in another similar fight and everyone loves him? Zod is more of a threat to the world than Doomsday...hell he was literally destroying it.

It's an interesting comparison, actually. The man vs nature concept. Zod presented a calculated plan based on technology and science. Terraforming a planet. Doomsday would present himself as a literal unstoppable force of nature sweeping the globe.

 

[WBwins]

And what people are citing as evidence is specious at best. Saying that it being the POTUS' funeral is less beliveable that it being for Supes is reaching.

Film extras are routinely lied to when provided direction. "The President" is a very common stand-in for directing extras when you want gravity, solemnity, and awe in a scene. "Act like The President just walked in and you're meeting him."

All it means is that the parade is a memorial for a very important person.Combined with the smallville funeral scene it pionts to Superman

 

[WBwins]

I saw this interesting quote on eyeskyward on how Snyder should pulloff Supermans death in BVS

For the first film, Snyder wanted to show just how destructive Kryptonians can be. He wanted to show that there would be collateral damage on a massive scale. While I disagree hugely with what Snyder ultimately did, I've always felt that a villain like Zod allows a story to show things that a character like Superman can't and won't do.

This time around, I think Snyder should do the exact opposite. Every single person should be saved. In fact I'd like to have seen this in the origin story to earn the trust of the people, but they didn't do it then so they might as well do it here. Nobody dies, nobody gets critically injured. Superman saves everyone and he pushes himself harder and harder to do it, determined not to fail anybody. Do that, and if saving everybody means that Superman ends up making the ultimate sacrifice, so be it.