Captain Marvel The Captain Marvel box office prediction thread

[jmc]

WW was presented as a cultural event, so it made sense that it skewed so far female, a lot like BP and the African American audience.

So, I guess this film wasn't as big a deal as people were making it out to be then, lol.

 

[Silver Surfer]

So, I guess this film wasn't as big a deal as people were making it out to be then, lol.

It's a bigger deal, it's just not tunneled to any one demographic.

 

[flickchick85]

WW was already a feminist icon, long, LONG overdue for her own film. Of course more women would come out for that. Plus, don't underestimate dat Pine factor. Ladies love a Chris.

 

[jmc]

WW was already a feminist icon. Of course more women would come out for that. Plus, don't underestimate dat Pine factor. Ladies love a Chris.

Who's the most popular of the Chris's out of curiosity?

 

[jmc]

It's a bigger deal, it's just not tunneled to any one demographic.

Then perhaps the media should start to shut up about about whiny man babies as there clearly isn't a bias against female heroes.

 

[flickchick85]

Who's the most popular of the Chris's out of curiosity?

That is the Forever Debate, that will likely vex us for generations. I've seen several in-depth analyses trying to solve this puzzle, each coming up with a different result. It will be studied for years to come, if it doesn't start a war first.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Then perhaps the media should start to shut up about about whiny man babies as there clearly isn't a bias against female heroes.

Won't happen until the whinny man babies, stop whining.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Who's the most popular of the Chris's out of curiosity?

I'd say it's between Pine and Hemsworth for women and Pratt and Hemsworth for guys.

 

[Iceman]

Also all the BS the haters peddled about it alienating male viewers, well males made up 61% of the audience for CM so far. Which is higher than some other movies like:

Star Wars: The Last Jedi 60%
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 56%
Spider-Man: Homecoming 59%
Avengers: Age of Ultron 58%
Star Wars: The Force Awakens 58%

Guys like watching baddass chicks, in case anyone was wondering.

Interesting stat. Wasn't quite expecting that.

 

[flickchick85]

I'd say it's between Pine and Hemsworth for women and Pratt and Hemsworth for guys.

So basically Hemsworth's a pretty safe answer, lol.

But no, depends on where you look, because I see a lot of claims of Evans being the best Chris, in many of those in-depth analyses I mentioned.

 

[jmc]

Won't happen until the whinny man babies, stop whining.

There is no use focusing on a group who has demonstrated no ability to actually make a dent in a film. So, let them whine, no-one is listening.

 

[Silver Surfer]

There is no use focusing on a group who has demonstrated no ability to actually make a dent in a film. So, let them whine, no-one is listening.

Don't disagree, this whole 'backlash' was blown out of proportion. It was just a bunch of neck-beards whining, they had no influence or impact, and were clearly wrong about everything.

 

[Iceman]

Then perhaps it's enough to shut the media up about the trolls and how little effect they have. On the other hand, The fact so few women turned out says a lot though about the appeal of the character. Wonder Woman got 52% female audience, the only superhero film to lean female.

We've had enough examples now to show that the trolls can affect audience ratings but if anything raise the profile of the films they are attacking. The ones I'm aware of have all had great (and I mean great, not just good) box office numbers. They will surely get disillusioned at some point.

 

[jmc]

Don't disagree, this whole 'backlash' was blown out of proportion. It was just a bunch of neck-beards whining, they had no influence or impact, and were clearly wrong about everything.

Which should be a lesson for the media. The fact is for the best part of the last 2 or 3 years we've seen nothing but clickbait bull**** articles from the online film blogosphere standing on their moral soapbox 'fighting the good fight' in the face of a small, inconsequential group of people who have nothing better to do, giving them a louder voice than they deserved. The fact that 61% of the audience for CM were male is final nail in the bull**** line of thinking that men won't go watch a female hero or are somehow 'threatened', contrary to what nonsense the media stuck in their little white knight bubbles think.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I'm actually surprised CM didn't break 40% female audience but maybe that percentage will change as the weekend BO develops. Here's some recent female demographic numbers for the MCU:
GOTG Vol 1: 44%
IW: 42%
BP: 45%
Thor: Ragnarok: 44%
Ant-Man & the Wasp: 45%

 

[jmc]

Honest question, what's the big draw for women with this movie though? It's touches on female friendship but not to a huge degree, certainly nothing in the marketing suggested that.

 

[flickchick85]

Honest question, what's the big draw for women with this movie though? It's touches on female friendship but not to a huge degree, certainly nothing in the marketing suggested that.

The primary theme is a woman breaking the patriarchal shackles placed on her, who stops listening to whatever the world keeps telling her to be and discovers her own identity, realizing emotions are a strength, not a weakness, and embracing the light and power within that was there all along. It's a very feminist tale. But in the marketing? Eh, powerful kickass woman who's not sexualized in any way. That's what it was selling, imo.

 

[harlequinade]

Honest question, what's the big draw for women with this movie though? It's touches on female friendship but not to a huge degree, certainly nothing in the marketing suggested that.

It's a CBM led by a woman. You do realize this is only the second one we got in years, right?

 

[Silver Surfer]

It's a CBM led by a woman. You do realize this is only the second one we got in years, right?

Man you guys need to start showing my homegirl Wasp some love, she led her movie, even if it was co-led.

 

[jmc]

It's a CBM led by a woman. You do realize this is only the second one we got in years, right?

And what has that got to do with the question I posed?

 

[flickchick85]

And what has what to do with the question I posed?

We like to see ourselves represented onscreen. I like to see female superheroes, because I am a female, and I almost never get to see them take charge and do the primary ass-kicking in these things.

 

[jmc]

We like to see ourselves represented onscreen. I like to see female superheroes, because I am a female, and I almost never get to see them take charge and do the primary ass-kicking in these things.

And yet nearly two-thirds of the audience were men. So, something about this film didn't appeal to women in nearly the same way WW did. We can say Diana has an advantage in being a cultural icon but that only goes so far. As you say CM sold a pretty standard superhero movie. What did WW sell that CM didn't? Warrior women, sisterhood, mothers and daughters, romance, a handsome leading man, a princess, adventure, femininity, it's more of a traditional fairytale packaged as a superhero movie.

 

[harlequinade]

Man you guys need to start showing my homegirl Wasp some love, she led her movie, even if it was co-led.

Then not the lead. It doesn't count, not really. It took them SO LONG to give women a TRUE female led movie.

And what has that got to do with the question I posed?

lol what, it was an answer

 

[JackieBoy]

And yet nearly two-thirds of the audience were men. So, something about this film didn't appeal to women in nearly the same way WW did. We can say Diana has an advantage in being a cultural icon but that only goes so far. As you say CM sold a pretty standard superhero movie. What did WW sell that CM didn't? Warrior women, sisterhood, mothers and daughters, romance, a handsome leading man, a princess, adventure, femininity, it's more of a traditional fairytale packaged as a superhero movie.

It's only been screening for 3 days. Both times I went, women outnumbered men by a lot. At least wait till it's screening ends in 3 months, then you can complain.

 

[Silver Surfer]

And yet nearly two-thirds of the audience were men. So, something about this film didn't appeal to women in nearly the same way WW did. We can say Diana has an advantage in being a cultural icon but that only goes so far. As you say CM sold a pretty standard superhero movie. What did WW sell that CM didn't? Warrior women, sisterhood, mothers and daughters, romance, a handsome leading man, a princess, adventure, femininity, it's more of a traditional fairytale packaged as a superhero movie.

Well you have to put it into context. The total number of women who went to watch WW is less than the amount of women who went to watch CM, but because CM did almost 50% more boxoffice than WW due to more guys being interested, it skews the ratio. The true number of CM female viewers is more than what WW pulled.

Wonder Woman OW: 103m - 52% female - 53m women viewers
Captain Marvel OW: 150ishm - 39% female - 59m women viewers

So the question to ask isn't why didn't more women show up for CM, it's why did more men show up for CM as compared to WW.