Civil War The Civil War "ANYTHING GOES" Thread - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK - NO SPOILER TAGS REQ.! - Part 2

[SuperSanchez]

If you've seen the movie, thought you guys would enjoy this song.
[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRWUoDpo2fo[/YT]
Hopefully you know where its from

 

[Best]

I just watched an IGN video and they said Jim Rash plays a character similar to Dean from Community. Oh man someone please tell me this is true - what's the scene about?

 

[Mjölnir]

Ok this is a total nitpick.

As awesome as steve is, how does he break into that underwater prison alone. Or did he do it alone? thoughts? BP helped?

I have to emphasize once again this is a nitpick.

He definitely must have gotten help. We hardly see anything from the breakout so there's nothing about that to contradict any theories on how hit happened.

 

[Jaxon]

Cap's fighting to protect Bucky from being unjustly killed. Tony wants to put Cap out of commission to kill Bucky (with an added pinch of rage for lying to him the whole time.
I see no weak reason at all here, but maybe your lack of understanding of the scene.
.

I understand the scene perfectly. Zemo's plan is to show a video to Tony and that's meant to end in a Cap v IM death match. It's terrible scripting.

WS should have killed Rhodey under Zemo's control to force them into conflict with Panther being the one who uncovers the plot. Not a stupid 1991 movie when Cap and IM are on good terms. And then what's worse, far worse, is they're all buddies again at the end. I mean when is there ever a risk that something ever changes out of these conflicts. That's why CATWS was a great movie, real consequences, and this just puffed out on par with AoU.

 

[SuperSanchez]

I just watched an IGN video and they said Jim Rash plays a character similar to Dean from Community. Oh man someone please tell me this is true - what's the scene about?

he is literally only in the movie for like 10 seconds

 

[Mjölnir]

I understand the scene perfectly. Zemo's plan is to show a video to Tony and that's meant to end in a Cap v IM death match. It's terrible scripting.

WS should have killed Rhodey under Zemo's control to force them into conflict with Panther being the one who uncovers the plot. Not a stupid 1991 movie when Cap and IM are on good terms. And then what's worse, far worse, is they're all buddies again at the end. I mean when is there ever a risk that something ever changes out of these conflicts. That's why CATWS was a great movie, real consequences, and this just puffed out on par with AoU.

They aren't buddies in the end. What exactly do you think showed IM having forgotten everything at the end?

 

[Best]

he is literally only in the movie for like 10 seconds

Yes and what's the context, I asked.

 

[Jaxon]

They aren't buddies in the end. What exactly do you think showed IM having forgotten everything at the end?

The look Tony gives pretty much shows you he's OK with Cap again.

 

[Mjölnir]

Yes and what's the context, I asked.

He's a faculty member of MIT that tries to get some of the funding that Stark had just given to all students that attended his demonstration/speech.

 

[Mjölnir]

The look Tony gives pretty much shows you he's OK with Cap again.

I disagree. The Avengers will be broken until Infinity War.

 

[SuperSanchez]

yeh

 

[Filmfan93]

The look Tony gives pretty much shows you he's OK with Cap again.

I don't think Tony is OK with Cap after what happened. The fact that Steve sent him a letter shows things being OK from Steve's side only.

Of course, putting Ross on hold regarding the Raft escape might mean something, but I believe Steve and Tony won't become friends again until Infinity War.

 

[Avid Avenger]

It seems to me, at the end of it all, Tony has cooled a bit since the almost fatal fight. He tried to kill Bucky and brutally beat Steve.
Now he's had some time to think and a bit more perspective on it, as well as not being fueled by emotion.
He's still disagrees with Steve on the Accords. He's still probably angry that Bucky killed his parents and Steve protected him not just from death but incarceration. The whole situation is screwed.

But then again, everyone in that prison is a good person and a hero. Tony knows that. He didn't know they'd be put in the raft and doesn't agree with Ross keeping there without a trial or anything. He didn't want it for Wanda, he didn't like Clint being kept from his family, Falcon is another soldier and loyal to Steve and his friends. They are good people who've saved the World.

So when he gets a call from Ross, and puts it together that they are escaping. He lets it happen. Cause while they are on opposite sides, the alternative is horrible and the World will probably need them again. So having them free and underground at least gives them another chance instead of locked up indefinetly.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

It seems to me, at the end of it all, Tony has cooled a bit since the almost fatal fight. He tried to kill Bucky and brutally beat Steve.
Now he's had some time to think and a bit more perspective on it, as well as not being fueled by emotion.
He's still disagrees with Steve on the Accords. He's still probably angry that Bucky killed his parents and Steve protected him not just from death but incarceration. The whole situation is screwed.

But then again, everyone in that prison is a good person and a hero. Tony knows that. He didn't know they'd be put in the raft and doesn't agree with Ross keeping there without a trial or anything. He didn't want it for Wanda, he didn't like Clint being kept from his family, Falcon is another soldier and loyal to Steve and his friends. They are good people who've saved the World.

So when he gets a call from Ross, and puts it together that they are escaping. He lets it happen. Cause while they are on opposite sides, the alternative is horrible and the World will probably need them again. So having them free and underground at least gives them another chance instead of locked up indefinetly.

Plus, if they were locked up, they could all cop attitudes when Thanos shows up.

 

[JohnnyBlaze]

okay guys, ive seen it, the rumors are true, this movie is EPIC beyond my expectations, at the end i was really exhaustet + i had to hold on 30 mins -.-

thank you lord russos and feige for making this happen D

 

[Mjölnir]

I don't think Tony is OK with Cap after what happened. The fact that Steve sent him a letter shows things being OK from Steve's side only.

Of course, putting Ross on hold regarding the Raft escape might mean something, but I believe Steve and Tony won't become friends again until Infinity War.

Tony putting Ross on hold is just a joke, referencing back to earlier in the movie where he told Ross he'll do just that.

 

[Chesterfield]

Tony putting Ross on hold is just a joke, referencing back to earlier in the movie where he told Ross he'll do just that.

True it is a joke but Tony doesn't want nor believe the Avengers should be locked up.

 

[Mjölnir]

True it is a joke but Tony doesn't want nor believe the Avengers should be locked up.

True, but not to the point where he'd do anything about it. He'll still follow the accords.

 

[TalismanRing]

Ok this is a total nitpick.

As awesome as steve is, how does he break into that underwater prison alone. Or did he do it alone? thoughts? BP helped?

I have to emphasize once again this is a nitpick.

Very awesome. I love the matter of fact capability. It's similar to when Steve & Nat gave that yeah no problem look when Sam talks about breaking into a high security facility to get his wings back in TWS..

As Tony read Steve's letter, the spanning of all the unconscious bodies and then his smile to Sam was great. It's also a direct follow up to Bucky asking what will happen to his friends while they get away in the quinjet and Steve says "I'll take care of it" because of course he will.

 

[ernesth100]

So Ive been hearing alot lately. I heard in Cap v Spider-Man. We have Cap make Peter hold up a heavy object.

Some say a bus, some say an airplane stairwalk, others say a large chunk of rubble, others say one of the big metal shipping crates. So what exactly does Peter hold up?

 

[marshal99]

True, but not to the point where he'd do anything about it. He'll still follow the accords.

Perhaps but he can still close one eye to the breakout hence ignoring the call as it sure wasn't his intention to have all his avengers comrades locked up in a prison when he signed the accords. God knows how thor & hulk will feel when they get back to earth after their adventures in asgard ?

Right now , IM and Vision are the only active avengers who signed the accord , rhodes is out of comission for who knows how long ? Widow has defected and on the run - cap and the rest would be operating as underground vigilantes - cap , falcon , witch , widow , ant-man & hawkeye. Will be interested to see how this impacts the ant-man sequel.

 

[theinfernoman]

So Ive been hearing alot lately. I heard in Cap v Spider-Man. We have Cap make Peter hold up a heavy object.

Some say a bus, some say an airplane stairwalk, others say a large chunk of rubble, others say one of the big metal shipping crates. So what exactly does Peter hold up?

I'm 99% positive that it was a boarding bridge. The thing you walk through to get on an airplane from the terminal.

 

[marshal99]

Very awesome. I love the matter of fact capability. It's similar to when Steve & Nat gave that yeah no problem look when Sam talks about breaking into a high security facility to get his wings back in TWS...

Yup , they didn't even have to show it , you know Cap is that capable.

 

[JOE]

For those who've seen the movie, what exactly do we see in the YouTube clip of Spidey? Does the entire clip fill the screen or do we just see the monitor from far away? Also, is he just swinging through the city or is he actually stopping crime? How long is the clip?

 

[Avid Avenger]

It's not full screen but we see Spidey swing in and stop a car jacker and another clip of Spider-Man stopping a car from smashing into a bus.