The Clinton Thread II

[DarthSkywalker]

True...but as we know, the only polls that count are on election day, and the lever the people pull.

You still pull a lever? You have an old system.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There was a 2% chance at one point that Trump would win the Republican nomination.

I'd have to imagine the higher amount of minorities and women aren't going to look for the racist, bigoted, sexist, xenophobic clown.

 

[craigdbfan]

I'd have to imagine the higher amount of minorities and women aren't going to look for the racist, bigoted, sexist, xenophobic clown.

If that makes you sleep a little better at night then sure.

Just pray that new white voters don't show up in mass. The silent majority is what they call them. I'm sure they count as bigot, racist, bad, evil, no bueno, Aku no, devil, misogynist, racist (oh, I said that one already), xenophobic, and big meanies to many on here. Just making sure I get it right before someone corrects me for calling these new voters the "silent majority" instead of all of the above.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

There was a 2% chance at one point that Trump would win the Republican nomination.

That was just Nate Silver just throwing a number out there just based on his feelings.

This is an actual polling based model.

It still doesn't mean Clinton is a guarantee though.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If that makes you sleep a little better at night then sure.

Just pray that new white voters don't show up in mass. The silent majority is what they call them. I'm sure they count as bigot, racist, bad, evil, no bueno, Aku no, devil, misogynist, racist (oh, I said that one already), xenophobic, and big meanies to many on here. Just making sure I get it right before someone corrects me for calling these new voters the "silent majority" instead of all of the above.

It is when they label anyone who kind of looks like they could possibly be from the Middle East a Muslim and terrorist. I mean it isn't like Sikh people aren't harassed in the street for being Muslim or anything like that. But it is okay Craig, you apparently made your feelings known on the matter of women from the Middle East a while ago.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That was just Nate Silver just throwing a number out there just based on his feelings.

This is an actual polling based model.

It still doesn't mean Clinton is a guarantee though.

Yep. Which is why his model allows for change and is never "100%" one way or the other.

 

[Matt]

I'm not gonna call Nate Silver's polling model a science, but it is about as close as it gets for polling.

 

[Kelly]

You still pull a lever? You have an old system.

Sooooo many jokes here, just not enough time.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm not gonna call Nate Silver's polling model a science, but it is about as close as it gets for polling.

It is rather inclusive. They also go out of their way to clarify how it works, which is nice. Nothing is full proof, and things will change during the next few months. Though it seems their model is prepared for that, which should help. They also have two different methods. One that takes a more long term view, and one more reactive.

Sooooo many jokes here, just not enough time.

Supergirl doesn't come back until October, you have plenty of time.

 

[Kelly]

Supergirl doesn't come back until October, you have plenty of time.

I might get into trouble....some of these are only good over a beer at the pub.

Plus, I have to keep the "sweet southern belle" persona going a little longer.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I might get into trouble....some of these are only good over a beer at the pub.

Plus, I have to keep the "sweet southern belle" persona going a little longer.

In such situations those are the only ones worth hearing.

 

[Matt]

I'm still confused as to how white men, a class that up an overwhelming majority of Congress, the Supreme Court, our presidents, state governors, state legislatures, state supreme courts, have the highest paying jobs, have the most powerful jobs, have the most management positions, the most influence, and wield the most political and social power, and so on and so forth can possibly be called a "silent" majority.

 

[Kelly]

In such situations those are the only ones worth hearing.

LOL, true...

 

[childeroland]

How long will it take the election polls to reflect people's reaction to the hearing, especially with the State Department now continuing (or renewing?) its investigation?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

How long will it take the election polls to reflect people's reaction to the hearing, especially with the State Department now continuing (or renewing?) its investigation?

Give it at least a couple of weeks. Though with then conventions coming up, that will make it even more difficult.

 

[Kelly]

How long will it take the election polls to reflect people's reaction to the hearing, especially with the State Department now continuing (or renewing?) its investigation?

Next weeks polls will show if there is a strong backlash to what happened. What may happen is there will be a vast majority that disagree with Comey and the FBI's findings, but will only show a 2 or 3 point decline in Clinton's actual poll numbers, depending on the poll. So you could see a 75+% of people in polls saying they disagree with the decision, but it may only be a drop of 3 or 4 points in national polls for Hillary with those points going back to undecided, not necessarily going over to the Trump column.

 

[Kelly]

Interesting information and fact checking...

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/revisiting-clinton-and-classified-information/

 

[Matt]

I read a similar article last night. The "hundreds of classified documents" were only three. And the three documents that were marked as classified, but in error. They were not classified documents. This is bad for the GOP who have really shot from the hip here. If this is the case, it means....gasp....Clinton told the truth.

 

[Bruce Banner]

I feel bad for Comey being dragged through this and after watching all of the 4 plus hours live yesterday, appreciate him wanting to discuss it. The guy's reputation for integrity as well as the FBI's took a hit this week. Despite his critical comments of her and the state department.

Not saying I agree with him on everything since he has been the director or in this case. Just feel bad.

There is still been the ongoing rumors of an investigation into The Clinton Foundation. That was one of the few things where his tone shifted yesterday and was more guarded.

 

[samsnee]

Cynical part of me thinks the Democratic Party is somewhat relieved that Hillary's headlines got pushed aside by Wednesday. I'm not saying they are glad people were killed but that the conversation is somewhere else.

 

[Bruce Banner]

Apparently personal accountability seems to be another thing she is lacking. Her inability to own up to her mistakes is giving a clear picture in to what her presidency is going to be like...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-emails.html?_r=0

EDIT: If I was Comey I would be quite livid.

Cynical part of me thinks the Democratic Party is somewhat relieved that Hillary's headlines got pushed aside by Wednesday. I'm not saying they are glad people were killed but that the conversation is somewhere else.

Indeed. She is cold enough.

 

[Marvolo]

Apparently personal accountability seems to be another thing she is lacking. Her inability to own up to her mistakes is giving a clear picture in to what her presidency is going to be like...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-emails.html?_r=0

EDIT: If I was Comey I would be quite livid.




Indeed. She is cold enough.

It'd still be better than a Trump presidency. Aside from his many other problems, he is pathologically unable to admit wrongdoing and mistakes. And even worse he gives excuses I'd expect from young children. Even for the most insignificant harmless mistakes.

And what makes you believe Hillary or the Democratic Party is so cold that they would be happy that Americans were murdered? Have you seen or heard of them ever behaving in such a way?

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Interesting information and fact checking...

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/revisiting-clinton-and-classified-information/

That's in reference to the deleted emails they were able to find. They recovered three emails with the classification of classified. There were still hundreds of other emails handed over to the FBI that were classified and some at the highest level, so high that members of the oversight committee weren't even allowed to view them.

 

[Kelly]

That's in reference to the deleted emails they were able to find. They recovered three emails with the classification of classified. There were still hundreds of other emails handed over to the FBI that were classified and some at the highest level, so high that members of the oversight committee weren't even allowed to view them.

There is a difference between "containing" classified information, and being marked classified. Most of those that contained classified information were retroactively deemed as containing classified information. The highest level is Top Secret, but if it is not labeled as such, then there is a problem, and not just with her personal email.

You may say that there isn't a difference, but in a court of law, there is....

 

[Bruce Banner]

It'd still be better than a Trump presidency. Aside from his many other problems, he is pathologically unable to admit wrongdoing and mistakes. And even worse he gives excuses I'd expect from young children. Even for the most insignificant harmless mistakes.

And what makes you believe Hillary or the Democratic Party is so cold that they would be happy that Americans were murdered? Have you seen or heard of them ever behaving in such a way?

Don't assume that just because someone is overly critical of Hillary that they like Trump, will vote for Trump, or anything of the sort. Not a chance in hell. We lowered the bar and our standards this year, that's the problem.

You are correct in your assumptions about him. He turned the GOP into a freak show. I'm sick of hearing his name. She does not deserve a free pass for her incompetence or her lack of accountability.

In regards to her coldness. Have not taken a good long look at her? She's creepy.
You can see right through that facade.