The Daily Planet Vol. 2: Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[GreenKToo]

This is a good starting point.
I was very wrong in my b.o. predictions of 150 ish mill ow and 750 to 800 WW.
I think this now will do around 610 to 620 ww.
The most important thing is it is well received and we will see more of this Superman.
It's just a crazy time at the b.o now.
5/10 years ago, this would have been a slam dunk for a billion.

 

[Superark]

This is a good starting point.
I was very wrong in my b.o. predictions of 150 ish mill ow and 750 to 800 WW.
I think this now will do around 610 to 620 ww.
The most important thing is it is well received and we will see more of this Superman.
It's just a crazy time at the b.o now.
5/10 years ago, this would have been a slam dunk for a billion.

I'm with you. I really underestimated the baggage from the previous films, overall super hero fatigue, and the competition surrounding this movie. I for sure thought it would have done a minimum of $150M.

That said, good word of mouth could still carry it above $700M. This movie did what it needed to overall and that was restore people's confidence in the DC films and want more of the DCU.

I wasn't feeling well when I saw it the other night. I want to go back and watch it a second time to truly take it all in and give my thoughts.

 

[Lily Adler]

After viewing #3, still a 9/10 for me!

Pay for the ticket, FC!

 

[GreenKToo]

Anyone else catch what they called what most of us thought was Solaris?

 

[X Knight]

Anyone else catch what they called what most of us thought was Solaris?

I think it was

Interdimensional imp

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Good stuff
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Yeah, they kind of hurt that message with some... decisions.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

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the Lex one I certainly agree with, even if I enjoyed it. I didn’t have any issues with the Lois/Clark talk while the JG was fighting in the background. The scene was still centred on them.

I do disagree with the Clark one though. I don’t think it was meant as a laugh. Clark has been writing about Superman pretty consistently, so if Lex is targeting people he associates with then Clark makes perfect sense.

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The scene centering on Lois and Clark doesn't really change that in the background, it's a running joke that lessens the tension. I quite like Clark in that scene, but him just off handily saying he doesn't need to help plays directly into it.

 

[TheGDBatman]

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The scene centering on Lois and Clark doesn't really change that in the background, it's a running joke that lessens the tension. I quite like Clark in that scene, but him just off handily saying he doesn't need to help plays directly into it.

That’s fine, I just didn’t feel like it undermined the scene. I was firmly focused on the conversation.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That’s fine, I just didn’t feel like it undermined the scene. I was firmly focused on the conversation.

I get that. But it's there. And 100% a joke.

 

[Nemeres]

Yeah, they kind of hurt that message with some... decisions.

Yeah I read your review, but I disagree. Painting the Krypton twist as outright xenophobic feels a bit reductive or simplistic to me. The movie's big themes are choice and identity and they're helped to land by making Krypton a less-than-benign place of origin. His value as an immigrant is conveyed by his choosing to bring his gifts and use them to make his new home a better place... the quintessential immigrant ideal. Using his world's tech and symbols for that goal. Dragon Ball isn't xenophobic, Invincible isn't either. These being fictional worlds should give them leeway to be used for the story's convenience and heavy terms like racism should be saved for graver issues lest they become trivialized, imo.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah I read your review, but I disagree. Painting the Krypton twist as outright xenophobic feels a bit reductive or simplistic to me. The movie's big themes are choice and identity and they're helped to land by making Krypton a less-than-benign place of origin. His value as an immigrant is conveyed by his choosing to bring his gifts and use them to make his new home a better place... the quintessential immigrant ideal. Using his world's tech and symbols for that goal. Dragon Ball isn't xenophobic, Invincible isn't either. These being fictional worlds should give them leeway to be used for the story's convenience and heavy terms like racism should be saved for graver issues lest they become trivialized, imo.

Spoiler

Dragon Ball goes directly against your point. Look at how Bardock is portrayed. He's of a lower caste, a grunt, who rises up. In this setting Jor-El is Freiza. Not Bardock.

Superman isn't Invincible (Thank God for that).

What you are saying is a quintessential view of immigration sets up the presumption that all immigrants aren't in fact welcomed do to a presupposed issue with their origin.

Painting the Kryptonians as something Clark needs to not be like, that he needs to assimilate is a right wing framework on immigrant. That Clark is basically a realized version of the Great Replacement Theory is so wrong in so many ways. It's honestly just a lot of blatant Islamophobia and antisemitism.

There is no "ideal" immigrants. And the suggestion there is, is how we get walls, how we get xenophobia.

 

[Val_Zod]

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I have to agree with @DarthSkywalker. If the intent was to frame the importance of his adopted parents, that could still have been achieved without completely denigrating Kal's origins. And I say this as someone who vastly prefers the Kents over the Els, but I digress.

The implications go beyond just who Clark chose as his real parents. It begs the question why Kara never brought it up, or apparently following through on the mission towards Conquest. And it would be incredibly contrived if the entire world just stopped questioning Superman's place after it just went out that he was sent to conquer them. For Clark himself, it runs the risks of undercutting everything he does going forward by having it feel like he's trying to make up for his people's legacy. And the worst is how unintentionally xenophobic it feels, which runs counter to how Superman fights for everyone, regardless of where they come from.

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[dhandler01]

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I have to agree with @DarthSkywalker. If the intent was to frame the importance of his adopted parents, that could still have been achieved without completely denigrating Kal's origins. And I say this as someone who vastly prefers the Kents over the Els, but I digress.

The implications go beyond just who Clark chose as his real parents. It begs the question why Kara never brought it up, or apparently following through on the mission towards Conquest. And it would be incredibly contrived if the entire world just stopped questioning Superman's place after it just went out that he was sent to conquer them. For Clark himself, it runs the risks of undercutting everything he does going forward by having it feel like he's trying to make up for his people's legacy. And the worst is how unintentionally xenophobic it feels, which runs counter to how Superman fights for everyone, regardless of where they come from.

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It is not denigrating his origins...it is just choosing a more 1980s/Post Crisis origin for them. As said in another thread in the Byrne Reboot (not my fave) Krypton has become cold, sterile and insular. The people never interact and society pretty much doesn't exist. Think about how the world is right now with everyone terminally online and never talking to real people and go exponential about it. Those Kryptonians act like this version of the Els and have similar motivations. (I think they even assume he will be a king or something...its been a long time. (Birthright was better)

And Kal chooses to be "of Earth". To many this is where Superman is the secret identity and Clark is the real person. Clark doesn't abandon his origin he just chooses to take more of his personality from Earth while using the powers granted him by Krypton.

So while it seems odd...its actually pretty on point with the version of Superman that Late Gen X and Early Millennial comic book fans new. I mean that was the origin until about 2003

 

[Enriquespy]

Day one of me trying to not watch the sneak peek and wait for the movie to come out.

Guesss what boyyyyyyys I did it!!!

No trailer nor clips till after watching the movie!!!

Also it turns out I dont think the movie had a whole lot to spoil anyways....

 

[flickchick85]

Just wanna take a minute and say thanks to all of y’all on this board who’ve made the lead up to this movie so much fun. I don’t have anyone IRL who gets into this stuff like I do so this is where I come to do all my fangirling, and it’s been great getting to enjoy this journey so much with fellow Supes fans over the last couple years. It’s a been a real blast (and way more fun with a movie that actually delivered what it seems like a lot of us had been waiting ages for).

 

[NotToday]

Y'all, there's Superman/Muppet content! On SesemeStreet's instagram (and elsewhere probably):



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[Detective Conan]

Just wanted to point out that there is a thread I created to specifically discuss probably the film’s most controversial element.

Spoiler

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Thread 'Thoughts On That Change To Superman’s Origin? *Spoilers*'

Jul 13, 2025

As those who’ve already seen the film(and those like me who haven’t, but have already been spoiled anyway) know it’s revealed that Jor-El & Lara El sent Kal to Earth for nefarious purposes - to conquer and rule the planet and revive the Kryptonian race through repopulation. This revelation is seen by many as running in contrary to how Supes birth parents have been depicted before — most notably in the Donner movies where Jor-El (played by Kryptyn’s Marlon Brando) specifically implores upon his son to use his gifts to help his adoptive world.

Though that isn’t to say the idea of...

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I’m aware there is a thread to discuss spoilers and all, but I figure that particular element was big and significant enough to warrant its own thread.

 

[TheScarecrow]

They should announce a Superman sequel this week.

A direct sequel.

 

[kguillou]

I wonder if Gunn’s gonna pass director duties over to someone else and spend more time managing the studio and projects.

 

[Nemeres]

I wonder if Gunn’s gonna pass director duties over to someone else and spend more time managing the studio and projects.

Almost certainly, imo. I'm, guessing the next thing he'll write/direct personally will be something weirder, like Authority.

 

[dhandler01]

I believe he said he already has his next project in mind but I could be wrong.

 

[solidsnake86]

I'm with you. I really underestimated the baggage from the previous films, overall super hero fatigue, and the competition surrounding this movie. I for sure thought it would have done a minimum of $150M.

That said, good word of mouth could still carry it above $700M. This movie did what it needed to overall and that was restore people's confidence in the DC films and want more of the DCU.

I wasn't feeling well when I saw it the other night. I want to go back and watch it a second time to truly take it all in and give my thoughts.

The dceu did a lot of harm to the DC brand. To me, this and the Batman's performance are a step in the right direction. You have to build the brand back up and get people looking forward to these films again.

 

[flickchick85]

I believe he said he already has his next project in mind but I could be wrong.

We know he’s been writing some mystery project for quite some time.

 

[kguillou]

DC doesnt really have a brand. I dont think the general public identifies “DC” as really anything.