The Daily Planet Vol. 2: Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

First off, my post made clear there is a very big divide between the moral and legal sides of the situation.

Second off, you know I am a lawyer right and have litigated IP cases? Lecturing me on the "legal facts" was certainly a choice. :funny:

Third, none of that back history regarding the early deals actually legally matter for the recent court cases. In the late 20th century, copyright law was updated to allow assigned rights to revert to the creators at a certain point because of situations like Siegel and Shuster where creators sold their rights for a pittance before anyone realized what the creation was actually worth. In short, Siegel and Shuster were allowed to tear up their earlier deals, which resulted in the start of the these decades of litigation. It also almost resulted in a very substantial and fair deal in the 90s.

Fourth, morality does matter. In addition to black letter copyright law, there are also intellectual property claims now based on "moral rights". It is a fairness concept that originated in Europe and has spread. Copyright law has been updated several times because of perceived moral unfairness. The whole reason why copyright was extended past an author's death is because the British public were incensed that Dickens' descendants were in the poor house while publishers were printing money from his works.

Last, I completely agree that WB should just settle this now and forever with the estates to prevent more of these claims. The problem is this shysters convinced the estates to tear up the settlements they negotiated in the 90s for snake oil and the estates basically sold their rights to this shyster lawyer, Toberoff, and his buddy, Ari Emanuel. They basically control the estates and their claims now, which makes a meaningful and reasonable settlement with the families practically impossible while they are involved.
My understanding from when this first came up three months ago is that Toberoff is the one filing the suit and is the one trying to get more money from WBD. Is that not the case?
 
I think it is great. Why go for what everyone else has done countless times? It can get dirty and based on this iteration most likely damaged. Either way, the putting on the boot's thing is great, and mayhap it is a comedic theme in the film. Isn't there a part in the film where his Earth mother (saw in the newest trailer) says "I'll go get your boot clark...." and he is looking at an oncoming threat? So, the putting on the boots may be a slight of hand theme. I just hope it isn't too comedic. A comic book film that is a complete joke would throw me out of it.
Because this isn't just another superhero film. The dc universe will basically thrive or die based on the films performance so first impressions matter
 
Not really. Telly as a Mediterranean man was darker skinned than some of Northern or Western European extraction. He also had DCAU Lex's prominent lips:
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loved watching some kojak!

telly savalas would've been an interesting lex luthor if this movie was made back in the day.
 
Big day everybody. The official DC Shop added a bunch of stuff, including a properly-sized coffee mug, and it's a beautiful 21 ounces. :db:

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No more of that "11 ounces" BS they were pushing with the previous mugs! :argh:

Also, in case anyone was still looking they now have the black and silver \S/ shirt David's been wearing:

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Big day everybody. The official DC Shop added a bunch of stuff, including a properly-sized coffee mug, and it's a beautiful 21 ounces. :db:

GrrijjHW0AEcSSt


No more of that "11 ounces" BS they were pushing with the previous mugs! :argh:

Also, in case anyone was still looking they now have the black and silver \S/ shirt David's been wearing:

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LOL I’m not going to lie. That mug looks like a roll of toilet paper. :funny:
 
One thing that never made sense with the DCEU and Snyder in general is he develops this extensive lore and sprinkles it in prequel comics and promotion, but almost none of it makes it into the film.
 
One thing that never made sense with the DCEU and Snyder in general is he develops this extensive lore and sprinkles it in prequel comics and promotion, but almost none of it makes it into the film.
Always had a strong suspicion that's because 90% of his lore is stuff he came up with after leaving the franchise. His responses to questions on whatever that rando social media platform he loves and is seemingly the only notable user on always had a distinct air of "Sure, why not, yeah I meant that!"
 
Always had a strong suspicion that's because 90% of his lore is stuff he came up with after leaving the franchise. His responses to questions on whatever that rando social media platform he loves and is seemingly the only notable user on always had a distinct air of "Sure, why not, yeah I meant that!"
I 100% agree with this. Honestly he probably got a lot of it from reading fan theories and such.
 
Always had a strong suspicion that's because 90% of his lore is stuff he came up with after leaving the franchise. His responses to questions on whatever that rando social media platform he loves and is seemingly the only notable user on always had a distinct air of "Sure, why not, yeah I meant that!"
Like the Martian Manhunter "twist." Of course it was planned from day one. ;)
 

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