Dark Phoenix $ The DARK PHOENIX Box Office Speculation ThreaD $

[Detective Conan]

 

[TheGuy]

Is 300mm WW a safe bet now?

 

[Hammer!]

Mendelson is right in his assertion that audiences just never really cared or liked the “First Class” X-Men all that much. The BO for First Class, Apocalypse, and Dark Phoenix make that hard to deny.

 

[writer0327]

Mendelson is right in his assertion that audiences just never really cared or liked the “First Class” X-Men all that much. The BO for First Class, Apocalypse, and Dark Phoenix make that hard to deny.

I agree. I quite enjoyed FC and DOFP but the last two were shaky and I believe audiences really only showed up for Wolverine.

 

[Sage2016]

Deadline say 140 million global. down 16% from Apocalypse and down 47% from DoFP.

Starting a new trilogy/reboot with a team consisting of D list X-Men didn't help them either. Folks wanted Storm, Jean, Cyke and Beast from the beginning, not Banshee, Angel Salvadore and Darwin. Which made it all the more head scratching when only the main 4 and Havok returned for DoFP and killed off the 70s X-Men.

 

[Kanon]

Not sure about this. We live in an age of fast turnover when it comes to superhero reboots. Homecoming did fine, despite the horror of ASM 2.

X-Men under Feige will do fine. It'll be so different to the garbage Fox have been putting out.

The same will apply to Reeves's Batman.

Audiences are willing to forget a previous disaster, if they know everything is different about this new iteration.

I think Disney is confident that people can tell the difference of thing MCU vs non MCU, and thinks that this disaster favors (in contrast) the upcoming MCU X-Men. This has "this is not what we are going to do" written all over. After the success working Spidey into the MCU, and making people well aware of it, just a couple of years after ASM2, they just don't care for damage done by Fox-Men

 

[martinp1]

gonna b hard to reach 100 mil domestic in the US..

internationally should perform double what it does here..

prediction 300 mil

damn for sure not reaching those numbers and they were my lowest of expectations SMH

 

[Sage2016]

I feel sorry for the 14 people that voted this would get over 700 million lol.

 

[Detective Conan]

I feel sorry for the 14 people that voted this would get over 700 million lol.

I have to wonder why they would vote that it would when even Apocalypse(which had Wolverine) couldn’t even reach those numbers.

 

[psylockolussus]

Is 300mm WW a safe bet now?

X-Men movies usually double their opening weekend in the final tally, so yes.

However, 100 million in North America is definitely not gonna happen as there's no way it will have 3x multiplier.

Dark PhoeniX will join Elektra and Fant4stic as the only three Marvel film adaptations (out of 17) not to hit the $100 million in North America.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Hammer!]

X-Men movies usually double their opening weekend in the final tally, so yes.

However, 100 million in North America is definitely not gonna happen as there's no way it will have 3x multiplier.

Dark PhoeniX will join Elektra and Fant4stic as the only three Marvel film adaptations (out of 17) not to hit the $100 million in North America.

And Fant4stic had a 120 million budget while Electra had 45-65 million. This was 200 million!

 

[Shuri]

5 years is a good idea.
It could be longer though, maybe 10 years.

10 years is too long.

 

[daddydivine]

10 years is too long.

Yeah. People have very short memories when it comes to movies.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

The first X-Men film not to debut at No. 1 as well.

I never cared for the 'First Class' cast (as brilliant as McAvoy and Fassbender are) so I'm more than ready for a rest and a reboot. Still sad to see it go out with a real whimper though.

 

[Kon]

Not sure about this. We live in an age of fast turnover when it comes to superhero reboots. Homecoming did fine, despite the horror of ASM 2.

X-Men under Feige will do fine. It'll be so different to the garbage Fox have been putting out.

The same will apply to Reeves's Batman.

Audiences are willing to forget a previous disaster, if they know everything is different about this new iteration.

I don't think Spiderman is so good comparison.

I mean ASM 2 could be terrible, but it still made $709 million. Not to mention that Spiderman is an iconic character. Still, Spiderman Homecoming with Marvel "only" made $880.2 million.

In change, Dark Phoenix is just going to be able to do more than $300 million.

 

[psylockolussus]

I don't think it's Disney's fault. After Apocalypse it was a DOA franchise with Fox. Too inconsistent.

Not really. There were so many ways to salvage the sequel:
a. hire new writers and director (No Kinberg!)
b. don't release in a crowded month
c. a cross over with Deadpool would have done wonders
etc...

 

[Shuri]

Not sure about this. We live in an age of fast turnover when it comes to superhero reboots. Homecoming did fine, despite the horror of ASM 2.

X-Men under Feige will do fine. It'll be so different to the garbage Fox have been putting out.

The same will apply to Reeves's Batman.

Audiences are willing to forget a previous disaster, if they know everything is different about this new iteration.

Amazing Spiderman 2, 52% on RT, made 709 ww
Dark Phoenix, 22% on RT, will be lucky to make 300m ww
Spiderman's brand never had it as bad as Xmen.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's not going to be easy to get the GA invested in the Xmen again.

 

[samsnee]

The good thing about X-men is they are a team with varying members.

As long as MCU doesn’t bring in Mystique, focus on characters that didn’t get proper due in the Fox films, and avoid Xavier and Magneto playing chess, it won’t feel like they are recycling things.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Just gonna throw out some numbers:

Deadline, even after the reviews came out and a less-than-stellar Domestic opening was in sight, still forecast a $170Mil worldwide opening with a $45Mil for US/Canada and a $135Mil overseas. It’s gonna do $107Mil overseas and $33Mil Domestic for a worldwide of $140Mil. I’m too lazy to look it up but please tell me that still topped Pets’ weekend worldwide haul?

“China will save this.” “Dark Phoenix scored a big coup securing Dragon Boat Festival long weekend!” Projections were at $70Mil for the four days. It made $44Mil. It might reach $70Mil for its China Total.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Mendelson is right in his assertion that audiences just never really cared or liked the “First Class” X-Men all that much. The BO for First Class, Apocalypse, and Dark Phoenix make that hard to deny.

I think he's right about pretty much all of his points, almost all of which have been said by myself and others on this forum for some time.

Some quotes I particularly agree with:

"Dark Phoenix was not just a sequel to a disliked predecessor but an inexplicably less fantastical redo of a plot they had already seen in movies before."

"What was groundbreaking in 2000 is now very much out-of-date. That this allegedly final Fox X-Men movie would choose to remake a previous X-Men movie, but less fantastical and smaller-in-scale, tells you everything you need to know. The franchise refused to evolve."

"this franchise never bothered to give us a Jean Grey worth caring about or a Cyclops worth rooting for. As Batman v Superman learned, you can’t do the pay-off story without doing the set-up stories first."

"In a world where the comic book movie is the biggest genre in town, merely being an X-Men movie, one without butts-in-the-seats stars no less, is no longer special."

Bingo.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

My God I can taste the hate on these type of articles.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

I'm not a shareholder of any Studio. I don't care how much money a movie makes. I only care for them to get a sequel if they're good.

I loved Dark Phoenix, I'd love a sequel. That's pretty much it for me.

 

[Hammer!]

Whoa people should read this instead of just looking at headline. They were unaware they were facing Secret Life of Pets 2 or that the movie even changed dates? Singer went AWOL on DOFP as well as Apocalypse? Producers throwing shade at marketing department. Sounds like absolute chaos!