The Doctor Doom Thread

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  1. Willie Lumpkin Trophy Husband

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    I was going to say - Marvel has nailed all the major characters. When they screw around with things, it’s with minor, lesser-known characters.

    And there’s no bigger character at Marvel than Doom.

    I’ve made this point before, but I think it’s worth repeating.

    If you grew up reading Iron Man, you know Doom.

    If you were a fan of Captain America or Daredevil or Spider-Man you know Doom.

    if you ever watched a Marvel cartoon, you know Doom.

    Comic books are made by their villains, and Doom is the biggest and best there has ever been.

    Doom is on a par with Spider-man in terms of how well known he is and how important he is to the Marvel Universe.
     
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    I hope you're right. And yet Fox somehow managed to give him metallic skin in their adaptions. If they have the right conception of Doom, getting his look right should be an afterthought.

    I can't shake the feeling they're going to want to show the actor's face. I don't know why, because how is Doom any different from Thanos, Groot, Rocket Raccoon, or even Howard the Duck? All of those characters are played by well known actors, but they don't show their face.
     
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  3. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    Even that wouldn't avoid the sexual element here. Doom is obsessed with Reed, that would entirely get read as sub-rosa-sexual obsession. Emphasizing "Victoria von Doom's" ugliness would just add additional layers of "Ugliness is evil in women". Then you add the very binary nature of the treatment of villainy in women, where everything gets pushed either to "easily forgiven and merely misguided" or "utterly despicable abomination". . .

    There is a reason that I am much more skeptical about gender flips for characters than ethnicity changes. It is much, much more fraught.
     
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  4. Stark Bauer Mr. Feige- cast me as MCU Darkhawk

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    Geroge Lucas admitted the inspiration for Darth Vader is Doom.
     
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    How cool is that? Doom would probably be insulted to be compared to such an upstart, however.
     
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  6. Stark Bauer Mr. Feige- cast me as MCU Darkhawk

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    this guy came up with a quadrilogy that would surpass even the Avengers films imho

     
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    The one consistent rumor that I have been hoping is true...they said a costume is being designed too (which better be classic comic book Doom) and an actor isn't needed to be known yet, just a very imposing voice if he speaks at all...but can you imagine if Doom not only is responsible for the probable war between Wakanda and Atlantis, but what a great way to have him make his debut than being the one that is responsible for T'Challa's death??? Talk about leaving an impact...
     
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  9. Willie Lumpkin Trophy Husband

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    Yeah, no reason to have him talk at all.

    Imagine an after credits scene with a number of characters from the film. The camera zooms in on the eye of one of the characters (a character that has been present throughout the film and involved in key events) and continues to zoom until we see a highly magnified circuit board so we realize the character was an android.

    Then we swing back around to the android’s POV as he/she views the celebration/destruction/funeral whatever.

    Then the camera pulls back and we realize the android’s POV is on a video monitor and as the camera continues to pull back, we see an armored figure in a green cloak watching the monitor.

    The audience would go nuts.

    And not only do we not need to hear his voice, but it would probably be better without any dialogue.

    … I mean we won’t hear what he says anyway because the audience will be shouting and cheering.:D
     
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    Ah Willie...you know how much I LOVE the way you think when it comes to all things Doom...that would be another epic idea...one way or another, Doom's Day is coming....
     
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  11. Detective Conan Registered

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    From the Moon Night trailer This was noticed by a You Tuber Canadian Land:

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    What say you @GoblinScrier @Willie Lumpkin? Could it be a reference to the one and only Victor Von Doom?
     
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  12. Willie Lumpkin Trophy Husband

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    Wow! Thanks! First I’m seeing this.

    I don’t know much about Moon Knight. Does anyone know enough to speculate a possible connection?
     
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    Omg omg omg...our first real reference??? I mean I have the comics that MK fought Doom with but still...what other "Von D" character could there be lol
     
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    More good news: This means they aren't going with the horrible Ultimate comics "Victor Van Damme" name. Not that I thought they would, but I won't miss an opportunity to express my disdain for the Ultimate version of the FF (at least where the movies are concerned).
     
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  15. Stark Bauer Mr. Feige- cast me as MCU Darkhawk

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    this could be a dream sequence. or it could be Von Doomcoq. i dont know why the retro 60s font like radio flyer vibes...

    Detective Conan your username checks out
     
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    The next scene in that trailer has the cargo with the rest of the words exposed...it definitely looks like it says Von Doom but there's a word after... can anyone offer help???

    Screenshot_20220120-110000_Gallery.jpg
     
  17. Willie Lumpkin Trophy Husband

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    Too hard for me to make out, but is it possible it says von DoomBots?

    Also, is there an illustration below the name?

    And in the original photo, it looks like German “Die” something.
     
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    Well sadly the Doom reference has been debunked...it's the name of the company on the boxes..von Dommerman or something its been shown in a break down video of the MK trailer...oh well back to the drawing board...makes me sad...are we EVER gonna see Doom or Latveria ever? Maybe it's not meant to be lol
     
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    Well, that's a dirty trick. Wait... Victor Von Dommerman? Nah.
     
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    Jump to the 14:52 spot and that begins the sequence
     
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    No one's cupcakes approach the majesty of Dr. Doom's cupcakes!
     
  22. Willie Lumpkin Trophy Husband

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    Yeah, when we saw yesterday the name was something other than simply “Von Doom”, I started to worry.

    And while it’s still unclear what the exact name is, the fact that it’s a cupcake truck would seem to seal it that they’re not boxes of high tech weaponry.

    … still, there’s obviously much more going on here than we know. There is something dangerous going on, they are in Europe, there is a name that’s suspiciously close to “Von Doom”, so while it seems like it’s not as cool as we hoped, there are still possibilities. I mean, if you do have boxes of high tech weaponry, you’re not going to label them “High Tech Weaponry”, right? A cupcake truck might be good cover.
     
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    :funny: I didn’t notice this. A you tuber that goes by the name Canadian Lad did.
     
  24. Fluedd Registered

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    Lol, a stretch but possible. More fun than thinking it's a mere coincidence.
    Or maybe Doom's face gets disfigured in an explosion at his cupcake factory, and his face is burned by hot cupcake batter. All that blasted Richards' fault, of course.
     

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