The Flash The Eddie not Eobard Thawn Thread

[Sawyer]

EXCLUSIVE: The Vampire Diaries‘ Rick Cosnett and Danielle Panabaker (Shark) are set to co-star opposite Grant Gustin and Jesse L. Martin in the CW pilot The Flash, based on the DC comic. The project, from Warner Bros TV and Berlanti Productions, is an origin story about Barry Allen aka The Flash (Gustin), a Central City assistant police forensics investigator who arrives in Starling to look into a series of unexplained robberies that may have a connection to a tragedy in his past. Cosnett plays star Detective Eddie Thawne, a recent transfer to the Central City Police Department, whose past is a mystery and who harbors a dark secret.

http://www.deadline.com/2014/01/flash-casting-rick-cosnett-danielle-panabaker-cw/

This man needs a costume.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I wonder if they'll actually do a Reverse Flash costume for him (eventually) or if they'll give him a completely new look. I could see it going either way; they might decide that going full-on Reverse Flash with him is too similar a look to normal Flash.

 

[Sawyer]

****. I just realized I misspelled Thawne in the title.

I hope they do the full-fledged Reverse Flash look. I'm sure there are alternatives to it, but I'd prefer if they just went for it.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I wouldn't be surprised if he was more Daniel West than Eobard Thawne.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I'm hoping we get both characters

 

[gugumugats]

i was actually thinking that Daniel West was supposed to be the Reverse Flash when they announced that they were thinking about a Flash TV series.

When Thawne came out in the casting announcement, I'm not sure if Daniel West will ever come up. We already have many representatives from the West family: Iris West, her dad who's also supposed to be Barry's father figure, and possibly Wally.

Having a West who's also similar to Thawne would just seem kinda redundant unless Daniel West is the Reverse Wally West in the series.

 

[cleverusername8]

Fairly certain that we won't see Wally any time this season nor will we see Daniel at all. Wally is only just now coming back to the comics and it remains to be seen what his role in the overarching plot will be (or if this new origin will be well received). Plus, this first season will be focusing on Barry's formative years as a hero and fleshing out his backstory (in the same way Ollie was in season 1 of Arrow). We probably won't see much expanding of the Flash lore until season 2.

In Daniel's case, there's no reason for his inclusion since we already have our Reverse Flash. It wouldn't make sense to have two anti-Flash characters in one go. And it doesn't seem that Daniel will be amalgamated into the Reverse of this show since he's already got a lot of Hunter Zolomon traits in him. Daniel will probably become a forgotten character in the grand scheme of things since he seemed kind if one-offish anyway.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Well guess it's always a possibility. But with the fact that this series is linked to Arrow, would it damage the integrity of Arrow by bringing in a character from the 25th Century?

Because that's what I meant. Daniel's origin is set in the present, and is a little less "out there".

 

[Brian Braddock]

First comic that ever got bought for me when I was a kid was Flash #324, back in '83 I was fascinated by the visual of the villain wearing the exact same costume of the hero, only with the colours inverted [yes, I loved the episode of the old tv show that gave us a 'reverse-flash' in Pollux]; that fascination remains to this day and as such, I definately want him to wear the classic yellow costume on screen.

 

[Loki882]

"He harbors a dark secret" no crap. They already hinted that what that is.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Loving the name to this thread.

Hope his costume is awesome and that they at least keep some of the yellow.

 

[Loki882]

I really do hope that "Eddie" IS short for Eobard. Eobard is just a cooler name for a bad guy, so changing it is kind of lame. It's like when Nolan changed Daggett's name from "Roland" to John. Roland is a much cooler bad guy name.

 

[Sawyer]

I really do hope that "Eddie" IS short for Eobard. Eobard is just a cooler name for a bad guy, so changing it is kind of lame. It's like when Nolan changed Daggett's name from "Roland" to John. Roland is a much cooler bad guy name.

Well, if he's a character from the future trying to pass himself off as someone in the present, he's probably going to try to use something a little less conspicuous than Eobard.

 

[Loki882]

True, that's why I said that I hope it's short for Eobard. An alias could be an acceptable reason for it as well. Just a long as whenever he's finally revealed, his real name turns out to be Eobard.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I really do hope that "Eddie" IS short for Eobard. Eobard is just a cooler name for a bad guy, so changing it is kind of lame. It's like when Nolan changed Daggett's name from "Roland" to John. Roland is a much cooler bad guy name.

I agree. I actually think Eobard is kind of a cool sounding name in general.

True, that's why I said that I hope it's short for Eobard. An alias could be an acceptable reason for it as well. Just a long as whenever he's finally revealed, his real name turns out to be Eobard.

 

[godisawesome]

Count me in for hoping for a classic red on gold costume.

And I'm betting money his "dark secret" is either he's the Reverse Flash with a stable time loop with Barry explaining his powers, or they've merged him with Hunter Zoloman and he has a sympathetic backstory he'll take to far. Because Blitz was so much better than the new Reverse Flash in the comics, and they can probably weld together aspects of Blitz with ten Return of Barry Allen story.

Imagine Thawne being a huge fan of the Flash with obsessive tendencies, maybe even a comic fan like Barry, but a genuine friend of Barry. He finds out Barry's the Flash, Barry won't travel through time or whatever to help him, so he dons the suit to make Barry "better."

And a defining element of tragedy is necessary to any heroes background...

 

[Sterling Archer]

So now that there are set pictures of the suit could we get some manips to see what a yellow version would look like?

 

[Boy Scout]

I liked the actor fine on TVD, so I imagine I'll like him here as well.

 

[gugumugats]

Thawne variant, kinda rushed.

KillerMcQueen made that manip.

Anyway, I also liked Hunter Zolomon's backstory in Blitz much more than the psychotic/obsessed Reverse Flash.

I kinda hate it when "psychotic" is used as crutch to explain character motivations. For instance, I really hated that Thawne in Flashpoint Paradox (the adaptation not the comic) was simply described as "psychotic" and 'really hates Flash' without adding any other hints of character development. If he was at least charming I'd excuse it, but in a vacuum (i.e. not knowing any backstory) I think that Thawne in Flashpoint Paradox was a very weak portrayal for a supervillain.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Damn cool manip. Damn cool.

 

[The Question]

I'm very deeply concerned that we're not going to see the stalker angle with Zoom in this version. The way they're introducing him as a cop played by an older actor, it just feels like they might stray away from that, which would suck because it is basically Zoom's defining character trait. He's the Flash fanboy who took his obsession to a dark and violent place.

Honestly, I'd much rather see them ditch the time travel element than the stalker element. If there's a choice between the two, I'd make him a modern day flash fanboy who goes dark side.

 

[metaphysician]

Actually, sounds like they may be mixing the Thawne and Zolomon versions. Which could be cool, I like Hunter Zolomon.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I'm very deeply concerned that we're not going to see the stalker angle with Zoom in this version. The way they're introducing him as a cop played by an older actor, it just feels like they might stray away from that, which would suck because it is basically Zoom's defining character trait. He's the Flash fanboy who took his obsession to a dark and violent place.

Honestly, I'd much rather see them ditch the time travel element than the stalker element. If there's a choice between the two, I'd make him a modern day flash fanboy who goes dark side.

If they're keeping the time travel (which I'm almost certain they are based on Barry's description of his mothers murder), then Thawne being with the CCPD absolutely reeks of stalker. I get the feeling he's there simply to make Barry's life miserable.

 

[gugumugats]

If they're keeping the time travel (which I'm almost certain they are based on Barry's description of his mothers murder), then Thawne being with the CCPD absolutely reeks of stalker. I get the feeling he's there simply to make Barry's life miserable.

Not necessarily. Playing devil's advocate here, but he could still originate from the present and decide to go to the past as a crazed stalker who is responsible for his hero's origin or possibly trying to teach Barry a "lesson" (like Hunter Zolomon).

However, given the official character description, I kind of think he's a time traveling stalker too.

I'm still 50/50 on whether he's there to follow Allen and try to be his friend or if he's there to play Alpha male detective and bully the lab nerd.

 

[luis4u]

some spoiler from comics

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Barry Allen(The Flash) had just arrived home from school, while he was a young boy, and saw the police stationed outside of his house. His father was in handcuffs and his mother was laying dead in the house. Zoom had come back in time to kill Barry's mom because he knew the Flash would be his greatest enemy in the future and wanted to hurt Barry. It wasn't until later on in Flash's career that he found this out.

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Barry Was about to marry the woman of his dreams, Iris west. The love that Barry had for Iris was remarkable. Iris meant everything to him. Which is why The Professor set out to kill her. During a costume party, Professor Zoom vibrates his hand through her head and then solidifies it just enough to kill Iris.