Eternals The Eternals General Disscussion and Speculation thread

[legendkillin]

Marvel Fatigue is starting to become a reality for me. Two, three movies each year was perfect. Anticipation works.
But 2021? WandaVision, Falcon and Winter Soldier, Loki, What If, Black Widow, Shang Chi, Eternals, Spider-Man, Hawkeye...
Is too damn much. Is not special anymore.

I prefer the 3 movies a year approach every 4 months is not that bad. Problem has become the shows are very connected so they will be must watch, if you want to know somethings about the movies. During phase 1-3 I was able to drop AOS once I got bored of it and knew it didn't impact the movies, I never watched Inhumans, the Netflix shows I watched the 1st seasons of them but got tired after Luke Cage, I watched the team up show. Kind of stopped or background watched Punisher, next season of DD, and Cage. I just was focused on the movies since they mattered.

I am looking forward to Hawkeye since he finally gets his own thing. I will admit the no spacing of Wandavision, Falcon, and Loki was a lot. Had they made movies come out around those times I would have tapped out or waited for a gap to watch some of the shows.

I would compare it to sports I love the NFL because it is a shorter season than every sport with only a total of 21 weeks including playoffs. I have no problem anticipating every game I have my favorite team but I watch as many teams as possible. This was phase 1-3 for me.

If MCU is like 4 movies and D+ shows in between they becomes NBA or worse MLB for me. I can not watch every single game and have excitement. I will just tune in for the major games or playoffs, I can't have one media consume all my free time.

 

[metaphysician]

I am hardly "losing interest" in the MCU. Hell, I'm excited about Hawkeye. Its just sad that apparently Eternals doesn't really work especially well. However, its not the end of the world. Nobody is perfect, and it sounds like Eternals is only an 'ordinary' failure rather than an enthusiastic extraordinary one. This is the same year where we got the unexpectedly awesome Shang-Chi; its not really *that* different from when Thor 2 was a dud and GotG great.

I will probably still watch Eternals, though maybe not opening weekend. I'm kind of curious exactly how it went wrong, and going in with measures expectations I hopefully would be able to get some enjoyment out of it. Best case scenario, I find I'm one of the rare people who love it anyway; worst case scenario, I get fodder for some critical analysis.

 

[Castor troy]

It's a shame all reviewers can't accept that at some point the MCU had to develop and try another direction. Aren't we all getting bored of seeing the same film retold. Eternals is an excellent addition to the MCU and people should not be put off. Go see it for yourself and decide, and for those of you who are thinking that's it for these guys, you're solely mistaken. The Eternals will be returning.

 

[DyeLorean]

I know movies are not an exact science, but I wonder if at some point the quality of Eternals has something to do with the amount of material in which the studio is involved in. They could handle three movies per year, but the amount of stuff that came up in 2021 alone, and the amount of projects that are in active development is *huge*. We had quality over quantity up until 2019 and I'm worried this is the start of the balance going the other way.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I'd actually say they're both getting stretched too thin and taking on too many projects that just aren't as interesting as they think.

 

[DyeLorean]

I'd actually say they're both getting stretched too thin and taking on too many projects that just aren't as interesting as they think.

It does feel like Black Widow was made out of obligation rather than an actual thing they were interested in.
I liked Shang Chi quite a bit but didn't blow my mind like newer characters did back in the day (yes, I love the first Ant-Man).
Haven't seen Eternals yet. But yes, this year has been a big hit or miss and a turning point for the MCU in my opinion. I feel like there was one big road up until Endgame and now there are all these routes and different paths of different quality. I can't go everywhere they want me to. It just doesn't work that way.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

For whoever is going to see this, I hope you have a good time. That's what's most important.

 

[psylockolussus]

I think I will have to wait til the end of the month or December to see this, so ugh.... I plan to watch Black Widow in theaters on Nov 17, then Shang Chi on Nov 24. I still haven't seen Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. Theaters from where I live are just reopening neXt week. I'm still waiting for Eternals' release date.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think I will have to wait til the end of the month or December to see this, so ugh.... I plan to watch Black Widow in theaters on Nov 17, then Shang Chi on Nov 24. I still haven't seen Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. Theaters from where I live are just reopening neXt week. I'm still waiting for Eternals' release date.

Well, I hope it all goes to plan, and you have fun psy.

 

[Spider-Fan]

My day is gonna be Friday night. I usually like doing Thursday night, but wife's new work schedule made that not work. So I may not be able to do many Thursdays anymore. But it's fine in the end. I don't think it matters much for this movie. If anything gets spoiled for me, it probably will be the post credits. Spider-Man will be the movie I am more worried about spoilers being plastered everywhere within 1 day

 

[rashad]

I think I'm skipping this movie. What I'm hearing isn't enough to justify paying money for a ticket. This is really disappointing. I'll catch this on Disney Plus.

Is anyone else getting tired of Marvel?

I'm not tired of them but I haven't been overly impressed post Endgame.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think Guardians works for a few reasons even though it's a very obscure title. For one, you have like this great underdog ragtag band of misfits. That's an easy sell. Second, as kooky as the concept may seem, it's not like we see characters as well done as Rocket and Groot very often.

Third, James Gunn basically made a movie that was like watching a present day version of Indiana Jones and Star Wars. And what I mean by that, watching Guardians of the Galaxy gave me similar "feelings" that I had while watching an Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, Star Wars type of film. That rousing, classical adventure style. It's a style I think few movies post 1990s have been unable to capture. So Guardians of the Galaxy gave us like a new Spielberg/George Lucas type of experience wrapped up in Marvel Comics characters.

Eternals just had none of that for me. The characters were just so bland, tepid, and they lacked any sort of charm. Other than Kingo, I found most of the characters generally unlikable and hard to connect with on any emotional level. It's not that the Eternals are like these primordial ancient beings. They just seem very under-developed and lukewarm. Undercooked. Even when they were trying to tell jokes, I found it forced. When it tried to get emotional and dark, it didn't feel genuine and sincere, or it felt way overdone.

The movie didn't convince me why I should be invested in these characters and why I should care about them or what they are doing. Even the dysfunctional family element was uninspired.

Also, the Deviants are lame and absolutely useless. I don't even know why they're in the film.

It's a shame all reviewers can't accept that at some point the MCU had to develop and try another direction. Aren't we all getting bored of seeing the same film retold. Eternals is an excellent addition to the MCU and people should not be put off. Go see it for yourself and decide, and for those of you who are thinking that's it for these guys, you're solely mistaken. The Eternals will be returning.

I think that new direction was other major heavy hitter properties such as X-Men, Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, etc since they got them back. Eternals felt like a novelty gimmick where they felt a bit over-confident swung too hard and got a big miss. Maybe it's a sign of Marvel Studios being spoiled by past success. Not sure, but we'll see.

 

[Mysteryman]

Personally speaking while I will be seeing this movie the thing that turned me off was all of the changes from the comics. Yes I know they are D-list characters, but so we're the GOTG and while changes were made to them it wasn't big changes like they have done here.

They should have just used Gaimans run as the first movie, though instead of

Spoiler

killing Sprite make her mortal like in the movie

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If this movie doesn't do well, It will be because the general audience didn't show up.
Your Non Marvel Fan Moviegoer doesn't even read the comics, they don't know or care about any changes.

 

[Albright]

Still no spoiler thread…

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If this movie doesn't do well, It will be because the general audience didn't show up.
Your Non Marvel Fan Moviegoer doesn't even read the comics, they don't know or care about any changes.

I know they don't, but for me the comics was a better story than what the leak has suggested, and a better story may have made a better movie.

 

[Zyraquis]

Thing is, while I’m really into MCU movies, I have not really read any related comics at all. Not even spiderman. I know some key points but that’s it. I don’t think I’m the minority of MCU viewers. I was more a manga kid growing up like saint saiya or dragon ball.

 

[Detective Conan]

Thing is, while I’m really into MCU movies, I have not really read any related comics at all. Not even spiderman. I know some key points but that’s it. I don’t think I’m the minority of MCU viewers. I was more a manga kid growing up like saint saiya or dragon ball.

As my username would suggest, I’m a pretty big manga person myself. Though I still do enjoy American comics from time to time I never grew up reading any of the Marvel characters outside Spider-Man, and only got interested in them thanks to the movies.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Still no spoiler thread…

I see one for made but in the future if there isnt a spoiler thread for a movie that is close to release, you can airways make it yourself. No rules prevent you from doing so. Just letting you know in case you thought you weren't allowed for some reason

 

[Mysteryman]

According to Deadline, Eternals is projected to make over 75 million dollars and, it is the second largest Preseller on Fandango this year.

 

[Spider-Fan]

According to Deadline, Eternals is projected to make over 75 million dollars and, it is the second largest Preseller on Fandango this year.

Over 75 would be a good start, but we have to see what holds look like into 2nd and 3rd weekend. Pandemic era has largely been bad for everyone in that regard, but I think what makes Eternals successful or not will be determined by that. Unless the OW is super high/low vs the predictions. Like, if it makes 50 mil, fail. 100+, success probably.

 

[Ctfxcwatcher]

About to be seated in an early showing. Wayyy more people showed up than I thought they would. The line is wrapped around the building. Pretty excited to finally get to see this

 

[Detective Conan]

About to be seated in an early showing. Wayyy more people showed up than I thought they would. The line is wrapped around the building. Pretty excited to finally get to see this

Enjoy!

 

[psylockolussus]

About to be seated in an early showing. Wayyy more people showed up than I thought they would. The line is wrapped around the building. Pretty excited to finally get to see this

You are all in for an eternal treat!

 

[samsnee]

Feel bad for the cast, especially Kumail. You can tell he’s someone who literally put his body through hell for the role. And then end up being in Marvel’s worst reviewed movie.

 

[DyeLorean]

Feel bad for the cast, especially Kumail. You can tell he’s someone who literally put his body through hell for the role. And then end up being in Marvel’s worst reviewed movie.

Don't worry, they'll be fine.