The Fantastic Plot-Holes Thread SPOILERS

[Antrax255]

I read a previous post that mentioned that Galactus was the cosmic cloud in the first that gave then their powers?

 

[Kanny]

Ok, about the Johnny with all their powers, I think I understood that when I saw it.

All of them put their hands together, so, Johnny's power go to them and all of their powers go to Johnny, but, their are still touching, so, he get back his power too before separating his hand. that's what I thought when I saw it, and I thought it was correct. The plot-hole is not there....

..... when Johnny comes back, he has his hands like The Thing, so, he touch Ben and g¡ve him his power back. Ok, it might work, because Johnny touched him with his Thing's hand. But, he never touched back Reed or Sue. He didn't gave his power back before going to help the Surfer and when he came back again, everything was normal, like before.

I try to imagine things for that, like, when everything (SS) exploded in the sky, their powers came back. But, well, that wasn't explained.....

 

[ProfeZZor X]

It's late and I'm tired....so I didn't understand your first one.

Surfer didn't absorb G....just transported him. His apperances only effected the people who had already been transformed by a different cosmic force...so the blast didn't effect the population.

He opened a wormhole to transport G away....this wouldn't suck the Earth out of orbit.

The writers could have had the same thoughts as I just expressed.

I just saw it yesterday, but from what I saw on the screen, it plainly showed the earth moving towards the implosion SS created. Whether or not it was a wormhole is up for debate, but I know what I saw.

...My only problem is that I analyze movies to hard, rather than enjoying them as I originally intended.

The other gripe is the fact that Story was trying too hard to emphasize a third installment with the over exposed notion that Sue and Reed are trying to raise a family. This more or less is like "jumping the shark", in the sense that Fox couldn't possibly top Galactus, even if it was a nebula cloud. So why not appeal to parents and introduce a kid into the mix. Family Ties, Mork and Mindy, Happy Days, Different Strokes, Full house... Bringing in a loveable and likeable kid to save the franchise is what these shows have in common, and Fox probably thinks it needs to do the same with this film.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

I read a previous post that mentioned that Galactus was the cosmic cloud in the first that gave then their powers?

Which in itself is a huge plot hole, seeing that the FF were already within the earth's orbit when they first go their powers. It could have smacked Galactus in the face if he wasn't looking... So how could "it" have wandered practically right next to the earth, not see it, then travel galaxies far away to consume other planets?

Oh, and you mean to tell me that no other beings on other planets felt the same kind of compassion and emotions as the FF did when they tried to save their planet? ... If I were the Surfer, I'd either evaporate every little ounce of compassion from my body (to do my job), or have Galactus find another herald.

...Or at the very least, hand out pamphlets with the title "So, you're going to die?!?!"

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I know some of these have been discussed but I thought I would add my two cents as well...

I'm not altogether certain he was in space at the end, but at the beginning... when the FLAME extinguishes (if any of you took 6th grade science, there is no flame without oxygen)... there simply is no way for him to have gotten his 'kewl' line off about 'the silver surfer winning'.

Yeah, I was wondering( flame without oxygen in third gradet: ) Johnny passed out before and I caught a glimpse of space as he was carrying the board. Just wondering?

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Doom may be pretty but he kept his denser molecular structure and powers. Remember him and the thing were fighting in the first movie. Doom can take serious punishment, which is why he took that big hit from ben right at the end of teh film

That wasn't really what confused me. I remember Doom having an underskin of metal from the 1st movie.

The question became did the General know Doom was behind the attack in the First movie or not or anyone in the world for that matter. If he did then why the hell would he trust a villain that attacked NYC. If he didn't know it was Doom then he should have said "WTF!" How did a normal person survive being crushed into a wall.

 

[Spider-Fan]

That wasn't really what confused me. I remember Doom having an underskin of metal from the 1st movie.

The question became did the General know Doom was behind the attack in the First movie or not or anyone in the world for that matter. If he did then why the hell would he trust a villain that attacked NYC. If he didn't know it was Doom then he should have said "WTF!" How did a normal person survive being crushed into a wall.

I could survive being hit into a wall, easily. In fact, I have. Ever gone through a wall? I did (though it was not a thick one).

He dented the wall. Hardly that damaging.

 

[Antrax255]

Galactus is suppose to bestow the ability to not care so his Heralds will have no remorse going to the planets and destroying the people.

it bothered me that everyone did not care or make any refernece that wait there are aliens out there!

 

[TheComicbookKid]

That wasn't a dent. I've run into a wall. Considering it was Ben that did it, it's a little hard to believe it was a light push.

 

[dark_b]

I could survive being hit into a wall, easily. In fact, I have. Ever gone through a wall? I did (though it was not a thick one).

He dented the wall. Hardly that damaging.

you could survive what doom survived when SS blast him away?

please. it didnt make sense. but for a fun mvoie that doesnt take itself serious it is good.

but dont try to explain me that this was normal.
or are you talking about the wall when the thing pushes him in FF2? which was also not realistic.

 

[Kelly]

I just saw it yesterday, but from what I saw on the screen, it plainly showed the earth moving towards the implosion SS created. Whether or not it was a wormhole is up for debate, but I know what I saw.

...My only problem is that I analyze movies to hard, rather than enjoying them as I originally intended.

The other gripe is the fact that Story was trying too hard to emphasize a third installment with the over exposed notion that Sue and Reed are trying to raise a family. This more or less is like "jumping the shark", in the sense that Fox couldn't possibly top Galactus, even if it was a nebula cloud. So why not appeal to parents and introduce a kid into the mix. Family Ties, Mork and Mindy, Happy Days, Different Strokes, Full house... Bringing in a loveable and likeable kid to save the franchise is what these shows have in common, and Fox probably thinks it needs to do the same with this film.

Then go see it again, and this time, walk in with that agenda......you may surprise yourself....

 

[Neto Magnus]

I wish I can just turn off my brain when walking into a movie like this.

 

[Kelly]

I wish I can just turn off my brain when walking into a movie like this.

I've never "turned off my brain" to enjoy something.......

 

[Neto Magnus]

I've never "turned off my brain" to enjoy something.......

i'm jealous.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I can turn off my brain to a degree. Meaning, I don't care how Reed's clothes stretch or things like that, but things like Doom's defeat will bug me.

 

[Angry Sentinel]

Edit...( flame without oxygen in third gradet: ) Johnny passed out before and I caught a glimpse of space as he was carrying the board. Just wondering?

Sorry 'sonny', I may be a little older than you... and in my day it was around 5th-6th grade. t:

Either way, it's definitely questionable. But the first one is bordering on plain silliness. Did I mention he was in a choke hold, at the neck! He would've had to force that line out... with what???

 

[Angry Sentinel]

...I just remembered... Did Johnny have his F4 suit on under the tux? Someone help me out here, cause if he didn't how the 'feck' did the tux survive his flame on?

 

[Spider-Fan]

F4 suit was under the tux.

 

[dark_b]

johhny made himself a new suit with different stickers that survived the flames.

p.s. fantasticcar was flying very fast and i liked how sues hair were moving very fast.

 

[machine666]

yea my main issue was when sue walks in and doom is building a machine and is being all shady. if that were any of us we would have at least said something to the rest of the team like uhh doom is right in the next room building something most likely to kill us perhaps we should stop him, but no she doesn't say a word to anyone yea right

 

[November Rain]

these plot holes are somewhat on a smaller scale and not as noticeable or annoying as some in many other superhero films of late to be fair

 

[Jspider13]

all the ocean's water are still drained!!

 

[phillip phonix]

^^
what do you mean?

 

[dark_b]

these plot holes are somewhat on a smaller scale and not as noticeable or annoying as some in many other superhero films of late to be fair

they are here bigger than in SR for example IMO.

 

[Spider-Fan]

they are here bigger than in SR for example IMO.

How could Superman lift that continent again?