The FFINO ZONE - Part 1

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I'm so relieved that Trank is out of the Star Wars film he was lined up for. Wouldn't let him near the franchise with a 10ft pole. Waiting for Lucasfilm to ditch Kinberg as well.
 
That was what I liked about the original FF films.
 
Brian Braddock said:
The same person who has just posted a positive, glowing review. Hmm, what a shocker. Wondering if the majority of the review wasn't already written before seeing the movie, much like the vote on that poll. :woot:
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I just saw the awkwardly placed sentence "Then when I saw the film..." and thought "yeah, that sounds about right". lol
 
The score might not be in double digits when all is said and done. Would be hilarious poetic justice if the score winds up at 4%. lmao.
 
Brian Braddock said:
Well, if it looks like dog $*** and smells like dog $***, I'm not going to go out of my way to deliberately step in it. I'm going to avoid it, much like I'm going to avoid paying money to see this movie, for all the reasons already well documented.
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There might be some people who might deliberately step in it because they're getting in touch with their senses and want to feel what it would be like for dog poo to get stuck on the bottom of your shoe, or worse, to step in it with their bare feet because they're in an odd tactile discovery phase.

SyntaxError said:
I'm so relieved that Trank is out of the Star Wars film he was lined up for. Wouldn't let him near the franchise with a 10ft pole. Waiting for Lucasfilm to ditch Kinberg as well.
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Fox: We're not letting Trank near FFINO with a 10 ft pole either.

Kinberg: Okay, that settles it. Thing's thing has to go. :o
 
http://geekpower.co.uk/2015/08/fantastic-four-review/

Then there is quite possibly the most preposterous scene in the entire film. The introduction of Billy Elliot as “the muscle”. Now, I actually quite like Jamie Bell, and I’ve enjoyed his performances in other films, but he is hardly what I would call big, nor does he have anything close to an imposing muscular physique. To make it worse, pretty much everyone else in that scene is actually bigger than him! His acting is perfectly fine, and he does a decent job as Grimm/Thing, but I can’t help but think he is somewhat miscast.
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The 2015 Fantastic Four lacks any real character development, and because of that, there is simply no emotional connection with any of the leads. Every character is simplistic and for the most part entirely generic. At no point did I believe that Reed Richards or Susan Storm were geniuses. Nor did I believe that Ben Grimm was a hard-man, nor Johnny Storm anything other than an inept extra from Fast & Furious. There is simply no chemistry between any of them, at all!

I saw nothing to suggest that Reed Richards and Ben Grimm were long-time friends other than two scenes which show us very little of substance – it was like they were strangers forced to work together for a school project. There was no animosity between Grimm and Johnny Storm, nor anything other than the slightest hint of possible distant recognition of something that might potentially be romance between Richards and Susan Storm.
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One of the key things about the Fantastic Four is the relationships between the four adventurers. That seems to be totally absent. But then, most of the key things that make up FF sound like they're absent, so it's no surprise there at all.
 
Brian Braddock said:
Some of the quotes attributed to Trank and the cast read/sound like those made by directors/actors making this type of genre movie 20 years ago, in that they have a mindset that it is all very silly and NEEDS to be changed to be legit, but we've moved on since then.

It strikes me that this movie has been made by those who are almost ashamed of the source material, whereas Marvel Studios have shown you can achieve something great if you unashamedly EMBRACE the source material and run with it.
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The ironic thing (and I think most of us were seeing and saying this from the first trailer) was that while the film-makers spent every chance they had talking about how they were doing something 'different' nearly every review knocks it for being formula.

Doing Fantastic Four big and bold and epic with amazing creatures and settings would have been different from any films we've ever seen while also being Fantastic Four.


And here's another thing: If this film looked like Fantastic Four, even if it wasn't great and was getting bad reviews, Fox would be getting my money and money from a lot of people who grew up with FF.

Make a good Fantastic Four film that looks like Fantastic Four and the sky's the limit. Make a bad Fantastic Four film that looks like Fantastic Four and you'll at least bring in some fans. Make a bad Fantastic Four film that doesn't look like Fantastic Four? That's just idiotic.:loco:
 
Comic Book Guy said:
The score might not be in double digits when all is said and done. Would be hilarious poetic justice if the score winds up at 4%. lmao.
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I have a feeling it will move up some once we get some more reviews. I still think it will be solidly in rotten territory, but based on the reviews we're seeing, it's bad but not abysmal, so I think it will end up higher than 14.

There are so few reviews now that if the next one happens to be 'fresh' it will jump to 25.
 
Yeah, I originally guessed that this thing would go over well enough with the critics and the general audience that it would probably be in the 60-70% range on RT but I'm happy I was wrong. I'm thinking now it'll wind up in the 40-50% range at best.
 
Its not likely for F4 to go over 20%. The average score has sunk so low, with less than 10 reviews (4.8/10) as of right now. Its probably going to stay in the teens. Wouldn't be surprised if it dropped to the single digits.
 
Willie Lumpkin said:
I have a feeling it will move up some once we get some more reviews. I still think it will be solidly in rotten territory, but based on the reviews we're seeing, it's bad but not abysmal, so I think it will end up higher than 14.

There are so few reviews now that if the next one happens to be 'fresh' it will jump to 25.
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There is at least one more fresh (The one using quotes in the TV spot). That would make it a virtual 22%. The question is, how many more rotten for every fresh? is it wrong to think the trend might continue?
 
The general audience in France is now trashing Trank's masterpiece : http://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=180999.html

one 5 stars out of five, Four 4 stars, 17 three stars, 24 two stars, 20 one star and... 24 no stars at all !

And the critics are even harsher... 1/3 of them give the movie 1 star out of 5 !

My source who said that the movie was "in two parts" is not here. He has been a movie critic for 40 years, and is editor in chief of the journal "l'écran Fantastique" He is usually kind, and don't like to publish bad reviews. He prefers speaking of good movies and promoting them, ignoring the bad one. But, after the embargo, he will make an exception and said he agreed with the bad review and will publish one tomorrow.
 
Kanon said:
There is at least one more fresh (The one using quotes in the TV spot). That would make it a virtual 22%. The question is, how many more rotten for every fresh? is it wrong to think the trend might continue?
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Do we even know that one was fresh? It could have been taken out of context.

"This film is amazing"ly bad. :cwink:
 
Or 'This film is ****' [with **** being a censored swear word] but FOX interpret it as four out of five stars and put it on the posters. :D
 
the gael said:
The general audience in France is now trashing Trank's masterpiece : http://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=180999.html

one 5 stars out of five, Four 4 stars, 17 three stars, 24 two stars, 20 one star and... 24 no stars at all !

And the critics are even harsher... 1/3 of them give the movie 1 star out of 5 !

My source who said that the movie was "in two parts" is not here. He has been a movie critic for 40 years, and is editor in chief of the journal "l'écran Fantastique" He is usually kind, and don't like to publish bad reviews. He prefers speaking of good movies and promoting them, ignoring the bad one. But, after the embargo, he will make an exception and said he agreed with the bad review and will publish one tomorrow.
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Yeah the movie will flop hard in France and Belgium with this.
 
I can't believe people are trying to defend this film on twitter
 
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