The Finished/Theatrical Version Of WOLVERINE Has Been Seen!!

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Wolverine in X3...that was the entire point...he had started to be taimed. That was his character arc in that one, and at the end it kinda leaves Wolverine with nowhere to go as a character...which is fine, who wants to see a Third Trilogy of Wolverine after this one? I think the character can get some rest for the next couple decades.

Your posts give me headaches.

No one here has said anything remotely similar to wanting or asking for a third trilogy of Wolverine...stop assuming. The few of us that actually know the character from the comics are talking about how aside from a few scenes(and mainly action ones)in even the first two films that he is a toned down version.

I and a few others(I'm guessing) don't care if that was 'his story arc' in X-3. All in all I really liked the first two films including Jackman's Wolverine performance. I wasn't really *****ing about him being toned down, just making an observation.
 
I never said anyone asked for it...i was refering to the fact that Wolverine after X3 is pretty much a dead character. And considering the first three movies were wolverine movies....this one may spawn 2 more wolverine movies...and after that... I was just saying with sarcasm that we wouldn't need any more wolverine.
 
Ah ok, so you don't really know for sure?

Can't people just use their imagination for that?

The experiment scene could of and probably should of been longer and more brutal. But then you have to think with all the other stuff already in the movie, would it of made the pg-13 mark?

Maybe there will be a Unrated or DC cut on DVD?

I'll be honest, the claw thing doesnt bother me at all. But if X2 had brutal scene's in as a PG-13 6 years ago, why cant Wolverine do it now?

I dont mean any offense or suggestion by this but its like you are making things up to defend them.

Saying all of that, I think I will enjoy this movie a lot more than I did X3.
 
The only way to have again a decent X-Men movie is not goingo to see this film.

Actually this is a pretty stupid self righteous statement. Love it or hate it, "real" comic book fans are a blip on the massive radar of movie goers, so see it or not, you won't make a difference.
 
Actually this is a pretty stupid self righteous statement. Love it or hate it, "real" comic book fans are a blip on the massive radar of movie goers, so see it or not, you won't make a difference.

goh78 just won every argument, past, present, or future about comics-based films. He's right.
 
goh78 just won every argument, past, present, or future about comics-based films. He's right.

I personally dont think people are that bothered about faithfulness as long as its a GOOD movie to be honest. If its good, and has a degree of faithfulness also, I think everyone will be satisfied. Iron Man and TDK are examples of this.
 
I'm a block head when it comes to the X-Men mythos outside what I've seen in the movies and some cartoons, so my reasons for hating this movie are quite a bit above petty comic fanboyism (although I think Deadpool is cool and they screwed him over in this movie). It was unfaithful to the story and tone of the other X-Men films, and it was all around very poorly made. This is a terrible example of movie making overall.
 
Are there any other sources that have seen the finished movie and confirm that it is indeed just the workprint with CGI added in?
 
I'm a block head when it comes to the X-Men mythos outside what I've seen in the movies and some cartoons, so my reasons for hating this movie are quite a bit above petty comic fanboyism (although I think Deadpool is cool and they screwed him over in this movie). It was unfaithful to the story and tone of the other X-Men films, and it was all around very poorly made. This is a terrible example of movie making overall.

That's the sad thing, from what I've seen the higher percentage of 'haters' were complaining about the movie for those reasons you stated that I put in bold. Yet a lot of supporters(some blind supporters)keep ignoring those complaints and right off most of the haters as just being blind fanboys only complaining about changes from the source material.

All I know is I can't wait to see this film in the theatres to form a full opinion on it. I want to know if it is as bad as a lot of people are saying or on the flip side if it's in the alright category or higher.
 
Are there any other sources that have seen the finished movie and confirm that it is indeed just the workprint with CGI added in?

No and I doubt there will be for a while if the bit about Fox trying to keep a lid on this is true.
 
I personally dont think people are that bothered about faithfulness as long as its a GOOD movie to be honest. If its good, and has a degree of faithfulness also, I think everyone will be satisfied. Iron Man and TDK are examples of this.

Exactly.

To add to that, I think people start getting really annoyed when movies start messing with the faithfulness of the characterizations of the characters. When you pretty much change the way the character is, then people get annoyed, even when it's a good movie. I was always annoyed with X1 because it completely changed Rouge's character and ruined Sabretooth. However, looking at it just from a movie standpoint, it was pretty good.
 
^ exactly wonder if fans want a good to great movie or a faithful movie wolverine or xmen is'nt exactly watchmen where it has to stay faithful or it fails
 
^ exactly wonder if fans want a good to great movie or a faithful movie wolverine or xmen is'nt exactly watchmen where it has to stay faithful or it fails

Well, I personally think it works best when you mix a bit of both. When you look at the super hero movies most consider to be the "cream of the crop" so to speak (TDK, Superman: The Movie, Spider-man 2, Superman 2) they usually were a mix. None of the movies I mentioned were 100% faithful to their source material, simply because it's impossible to be so what with decades (and in Batman's and Superman's case over half a century) of material.

However, the one thing those movies did was, while they changed aspects of their characters, they stayed true to their core characters characterizations. (For the most part, I have some major issues with Spider-man 2, but I put it up there because most people have it in their top 10).

We'll never be able to get a Watchmen-like movie with Wolverine, simply because Wolverine has so much history. You could make Watchmen so accurate because it's self-contained. It's only one story. Wolverine has hundreds of stories he's appeared in, and to try and be faithful to all of them would be impossible, simply because he's treated differently under different writers.
 
^ exactly wonder if fans want a good to great movie or a faithful movie wolverine or xmen is'nt exactly watchmen where it has to stay faithful or it fails

I think if anyone would rather have a 100% loyal version of the comic book... they're better off reading the comic book. I can't think of a single example where the movie was a verbatim version of the comic book as well as a good film.
 
I tend to believe the good reviews from average movie folk but I'm just a dreamer...

X-Men Origins: Wolverine continues the work of X2 as genre-defining. Actually, it's a work of comic book pulp fiction that sets up X2 if that makes better sense. The characters, effects, and story were all beyond outstanding. Like X2, the acting is superb. The dialogue is perfect for the level of each character. Every character feels believable. You follow the story through Logan's eyes (or James if you prefer) and what a ride it turns out to be. It's better then its predecessor X3 in every single way that matters. The FX and pace are superb. I honestly could see the FX being Oscar nominated. It restores the sense of epic adventure and grand-scale storytelling that's been absent from far too many of today's alleged blockbusters.

This movie beats the third X-Men film easy because it is more sophisticated and has a better story, and even better action. Here, a couple of characters previously "introduced" in X-Men are introduced for real. Wolverine and Sabretooth shine. Some characters are under used but are utilized in a comprehensive and cohesive manner. I loved Gambit but would have like to have seen more of him. The other newly introduced characters are blended in seamlessly with the story. The music is very good as is the acting. The cast selection is still perfect and I hope this spawns more Wolverine solo films.
 
Ahhh you wouldn't believe how many idiots I've seen on other forums saying the movie makers should cater just to comic book fans. Some of them even go as far as saying that comic book fans are where the money comes from. I just laugh at their stupidity.

I would love for all these films to be made JUST for us, but it is never gonna happen.

Zack Snyder basically said he made Watchmen for the fans, and I truly commend him for it.

But I guarantee this film will make more money than Watchmen in the cinemas.

Of course it will, it's PG-13 movie that's decent & a part of one of the most successful franchises of the past decade, compared to Watchmen which was an R-rated movie of a cult classic comic book. Wolverine's guaranteed to make over 200 million.
 
They might just reuse footage. They did that for all of the flashbacks that were already in the leak.
 
The bar scene in X-1 was PURE Wolverine, dunno how anyone can deny that.

everyone of us should be able to agree on that. from that firt metal on bone CLANK, to "you lost your money. keep this up, you lose something else." that scene was 100% undiluted Wolverine.

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Love that scene. Wish we could've seen more of that in Origins. But like people said, the character turns more and more into Jackman.
 
I saw the workprint version, my expectations were low so it didn't look that bad when I first saw it. But it wasn't anything great, at all. I'm just surprised they would blatantly lie about adding additional footage. But at the same time, you saw everyone say 10 minutes of additional footage couldn't save this movie. Deep down you knew that was true. lol I just can't believe how much of an overall disappointment this has turned out to be after months of anticipation. I seriously didn't see this coming.

But with Gambit and Deadpool's appearances out of the way now (would have been better if they held back just a little longer before putting either on screen), hopefully we can get some thorough Wolverine movies in the future, cause this one just looks like if they did a live action Wolverine TV show.
 
I REALLY think they should've used another character instead of Deadpool for... that.

Maybe Omega Red.
 
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