The Flash The Flash Season 1 Episode 23: "Fast Enough"

[brandeezy89]

Excellent episode. Eddie's sacrifice caught me completely off guard. That was very heroic and brave of him.

Does anyone know why when Barry went back in time, the other Barry told him (by gesturing with his hand) not to save his mother?

I believe that the Flash with the white symbol was the Flash who saved Nora before and that messed up the timeline severely so he didn't want Barry to go through that.

 

[Micromind]

After Flash destroyed Eobard Thwane's Time travelling machine, I expected Reverse Flash to say something like -

"Look at this..... I exist only to go back in future. That is the sole purpose for which I was born. And every action I take, no matter how violent or how cruel, is for the greater good of my future. My soul, that is what you have taken from me!"

 

[terry78]

Nah, he's not that hammy.

 

[terry78]

Considering the time travel abilities, I don't suspect any of the deaths to be permanent. There is always a way to bring people back if you have that power.

 

[Bathead]

OMG this finale. I'm going to need tissues.

Hmm, that could be interpreted a couple of different ways.
It either made you really sad, or really "happy". (ahem)

 

[gugumugats]

I believe that the Flash with the white symbol was the Flash who saved Nora before and that messed up the timeline severely so he didn't want Barry to go through that.

So you're suggesting the white symbol Flash we saw in the finale is not a Flash-prime per say but is a second or third iteration of the Flash from a different timeline?

(1) Flash-prime: Back in time to save younger Barry!2 from RF!1.

(2) Flash!2: Created by particle accelerator made by a stranded RF!1. I'm guessing he also chose to save his mom and RF!1 goes home. Goes through his version of Flashpoint. Later goes back in time to save Barry!Season1 form RF!2.

(3/Season1) Flash!Season1: Created by particle accelerator made by a stranded RF!2. Back in time to save his mom but Flash!2 says no.

 

[Confusion]

Has it ever been stated how RF and future Barry from 2025 knew each other?

I mean, RF would of had to went to 2025 first..right?

Sorry if those are stupid questions.....every time I try to think of whats going on in time travel stories...

Oh no, I've just gone cross-eyed...

 

[Bathead]

Has it ever been stated how RF and future Barry from 2025 knew each other?

I mean, RF would of had to went to 2025 first..right?

Sorry if those are stupid questions.....every time I try to think of whats going on in time travel stories...

Oh no, I've just gone cross-eyed...

That's the problem I generally have with time travel stories. Trying to figure all the angles because of paradox can break your brain.
BTW, anyone else catch the Douglas Adams reference?

 

[brandeezy89]

So you're suggesting the white symbol Flash we saw in the finale is not a Flash-prime per say but is a second or third iteration of the Flash from a different timeline?

(1) Flash-prime: Back in time to save younger Barry!2 from RF!1.

(2) Flash!2: Created by particle accelerator made by a stranded RF!1. I'm guessing he also chose to save his mom and RF!1 goes home. Goes through his version of Flashpoint. Later goes back in time to save Barry!Season1 form RF!2.

(3/Season1) Flash!Season1: Created by particle accelerator made by a stranded RF!2. Back in time to save his mom but Flash!2 says no.

Exactly

I wouldn't be surprised if someone is making a chart right now lol

 

[The Shape]

Bravo to this creative team for an awesome first season. Can't wait to see where they take this show next season.

 

[superboy13]

Well he could have just shot himself in the crotch. I mean it would hurt like heck, but he'd still be alive.

Not exactly a foolproof plan... he can always adopt a kid and he'd still have his last name.

 

[Babillygunn]

Does anyone else think it was a bit selfish of Barry to go back when it could mean jacking up time itself? That's my one complaint in an otherwise flawless episode.

 

[zenith16]

Does anyone else think it was a bit selfish of Barry to go back when it could mean jacking up time itself? That's my one complaint in an otherwise flawless episode.

technically time was already screwed up from RF pushing things to happen earlier.


but he did really change events with the exception of making the singlarity that's the only part that was the problem. the singularity. i n a way it was selfish but when you hear that events were sped up ..... it mean's thing's aren't supposed to be the way they are it a hard chose.

 

[superboy13]

technically time was already screwed up from RF pushing things to happen earlier.


but he did really change events with the exception of making the singlarity that's the only part that was the problem. the singularity. i n a way it was selfish but when you hear that events were sped up ..... it mean's thing's aren't supposed to be the way they are it a hard chose.

But the singularity wasn't caused by Barry, but by Eddie shooting himself.

 

[zenith16]

But the singularity wasn't caused by Barry, but by Eddie shooting himself.

yeah there were two singularity's though. one sorta eded but the new one was made by eddie . the bestway to have avoid it all was for barry to have ot bothered with the trip as his blood related father who's in jail said not to. yeah we had a touching mome with his mom it seem that flash/ barry that was supposed from the correct time lie was aware of curret messed up time line barry which if you think about he shouldn't have bee aware . ether way it was the fact that listen to fake well's.

That put them in that position where Eddie had to do that. they should have made fake wells confess to the murder if he some how escaped and forced Barry to do the time trip with him it'd be a different story all together . it is what is I just want to know the ramification's how barry will fix it?


Barry might have to head to time period where Eddie's still alive, but will have to make sure the true dr. wells is alive as well & make sure RF doesn't kill him & take his identity. if Barry can't save the real Dr. wells wife. that's alot of freaking work

 

[superboy13]

yeah there were two singularity's though. one sorta eded but the new one was made by eddie . the bestway to have avoid it all was for barry to have ot bothered with the trip as his blood related father who's in jail said not to. yeah we had a touching mome with his mom it seem that flash/ barry that was supposed from the correct time lie was aware of curret messed up time line barry which if you thik about he shouldn't have bee aware . ether way it was the factthat listen to fake well's that put them in that position where eddie had to do that. they should have made fake wells confess to the murder if he some how escaped and forced barry to do the time trip with him it'd be a different story all together . it is what is I just want to know the ramification's how barry will fix it? he might have to head to time period eddies alive but will have to make sure the true dr. wells is alive make sure RF doesn't kill him if he can't save the real dr. wells wife.

While there's no way to know, it's very likely that they wouldn't have been able to keep RF in there forever, he would've eventually escaped and Eddie would've probably done the same thing... causing a paradox resulting in a singularity whether Barry went back in time or not.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

i thought it was hella Selfish too for Barry to risk the earth to save his mom....BUUUTT just like trusting captain cold to help him...the dude is young and stupid! he is still learning to be a hero and i cut him slack form making dumb decisions like that which is why his future self intervene and stopped him!
of course he did ask the others( which you think Dr. Stein would have been are you F^&*( NUTS!!)
with only his DAD, telling him the real stuff that you cant change the past !Doing dumb ass &*( like that is why this show rocks!! He's not perfect.

 

[zenith16]

While there's no way to know, it's very likely that they wouldn't have been able to keep RF in there forever, he would've eventually escaped and Eddie would've probably done the same thing... causing a paradox resulting in a singularity whether Barry went back in time or not.

yeah that's the thing they shouldn't be playing jailer ether . they should have had the DA lady come into play with out telling her who barry is (as the flash) have fake wells/ RF knocked out say they made prision for meta criminal's as a start up plan for what she said in dealing with this new problem.

but they are looking for other ways to help other meta's that aren't criminals at all ether coup & control their powers. So they have set up meta human prison and plan on a separate place be it a school or place of research to help people that have gotten powers.


If RF can't/ hasn't escaped during all that they can hold him til he confesses to framing Barry's dad or escaped. but the priority should have been clearing his dad's name cause messing with time is too messy unless you knew how it was supposed to be from the jump. the point is not to have let it reach that point for Eddie. what he did was cool & understandable. but he shouldn't been in that position.


It's past tense now so Barry's chose now to avoid this is save the real Dr. wells .

 

[Human Torch]

That's the problem I generally have with time travel stories. Trying to figure all the angles because of paradox can break your brain.

Yeah,TBH I really hope they don't overdo the time travel stuff. It's very easy to get things messy very quickly.

 

[BH/HHH]

Yes I cried, I'm not embarrassed you say so. That scene really got to me with his Mum lost my Dad and I would give anything to go back and just tell him how much I love him and that I'm happy.

The shocking ending was just wow, I didn't really see that coming with

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Eddie dying

but funnily enough I did think if he

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died

then everything would be OK.

I feel like this is gonna end up getting really convoluted now. Reverse Flash going back in time is what led to Eddie killing himself, thus wiping RF from the future meaning he no longer goes back in time, which means Eddie no longer has a need to kill himself. So in the new timeline Eddie is alive and RF is in his own time??

That's making my head hurt haha

I think that's why the wormhole came back I think it was time trying to reset itself to order.

 

[Compi716]

AMAZING finale. Seriously, absolutely perfect on every level. I can't wait to see what happens next, particularly with Multiverse exploration (Jay Garrick!).

Here's my one thing though: we never got Thawne to properly explain the why behind his hatred. I was hoping we'd get something like that, but oh well. Hopefully next season.

Same with the white-symbol (which looks so much better) version of The Flash. I hope they give us a bit more backstory on why he told Barry not to interfere with the murder of Nora. I guess that he did, and some sort of Flashpoint event occurred...but I'd love to see the CW version of that.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

So many emotional moments in this episode. I can't count the number of times this episode moved me to tears. A great end to a wonderful season.


The only downside? Having to wait months until the conclusion.


Bravo to all involved with the show...

 

[Lencho01]

After Flash destroyed Eobard Thwane's Time travelling machine, I expected Reverse Flash to say something like -

"Look at this..... I exist only to go back in future. That is the sole purpose for which I was born. And every action I take, no matter how violent or how cruel, is for the greater good of my future. My soul, that is what you have taken from me!"

 

[Seb]

Apparently next season is supposed to get very time travel heavy, which hopefully would give us alternate timelines and such. It would be great for a number of reasons:

1. It would be a good lead up and explanation for why Legends of Tomorrow needs to happen, and maybe give us a bit of time to see Captain Cold doing something to make us believe he could be good on the team, and maybe introduce Hawkgirl and maybe Rip Hunter to us before the midseason break.

2. We could see cool things from the comics without having to lose the characters we like, most notably, we could see a Killer Frost Caitlyn without 'our' Caitlyn having to turn evil. We could also see other characters in 'what if' scenarios.

EmergencyAwesome talked a bit about this, and mentioned how well placed Cisco and his powers, as they've been explained, would be to interact with alternate universe things.

 

[dru-zod2501]

Why didn't Barry save his mother?

The show didn't know how to pull off Flashpoint so they didnt. But my question is why didn't future Barry want him to? I think future Barry might've already experienced Flashpoint and knew what would happen