The Flash The Flash Season 5, Episode 9 - “Elseworlds pt.1”

And it's over already!:wall:

Anyway, this first part was so good! The only thing I wish is that they were able to do higher quality CG. Amazo would have been amazing if he looked a little less 'toony.
 
I'm actually a bit glad we'll be going to Gotham City on the Arrow portion of the crossover, given the similarities and what Arrow borrows from the Batman world. And looks like Kate Kane indeed is on Earth-1. Good start to the crossover. I do wish there'd been maybe a throwaway line about how Nora isn't around, given what we learned about her last time.

I assume Clark and Lois are in the other episodes? Or I'd assume they're at least in the Supergirl portion.
 
Never have seen any of these shows except for Season 1-2.3 of Supergirl. Should I watch this? Plus, can I stick to events and go back to the previous two?
 
NotNickFury said:
I'm actually a bit glad we'll be going to Gotham City on the Arrow portion of the crossover, given the similarities and what Arrow borrows from the Batman world. And looks like Kate Kane indeed is on Earth-1. Good start to the crossover. I do wish there'd been maybe a throwaway line about how Nora isn't around, given what we learned about her last time.

I assume Clark and Lois are in the other episodes? Or I'd assume they're at least in the Supergirl portion.
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Lois is only in the Supergirl portion now. "Our" Clark probably too. But I believe we should be meeting Black Suit Superman next episode.
 
Binker said:
Never have seen any of these shows except for Season 1-2.3 of Supergirl. Should I watch this? Plus, can I stick to events and go back to the previous two?
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I have doubts you'll enjoy it if you don't have any familiarity with the Flash and Arrow characters, but it is otherwise fairly self-contained. The first part's only 44 minutes of TV, so you don't have much to lose by giving it a whirl.
 
Its not like I don't know who Flash and Green Arrow are
 
Part 1 definitely had its moments and when I totally turn my brain off it was very fun. But when I think with my brain on....it wasnt the strongest start to a crossover.

They did a poor job of bringing Supergirl, the fact that TF had to be MASSIVELY dumbed down was not a good look. 2 people that you've known for years come to saying "we've switched bodies" and your immediate reaction is to A. Not believe them and B. to LOCK THEM UP as if they were criminals? That makes zero sense!?! And then Barry wants Oliver to talk to iris to try to convince her? Was she supposed to be refusing to speak to "Oliver" that Barry couldnt go over there and tell her exactly the same thing he says to her later on?

The Smallville music probably was the highlight, it just hit me with the nostalgia real hard and it was great. Not sure how I feel about this actress playing Lois, I dont hate her in the role but it isnt an automatic "WOW" to me.

Amazo was nice to see even though he was defeated in 5 minutes and Team Flash forgot that there were a bunch of heroes in Star City that they've worked with throughout the years that could help them.

Not sure why we had to be subjected to Sherloque who is the worst Flash character to ever exist.

And boo to Batwoman being on E1. It is high time that they start expanding Earth-38 unless we are doing away with the Multiverse next year.
 
Binker said:
Its not like I don't know who Flash and Green Arrow are
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Yeah, but I meant being familiar with the characters and their dynamics, both with each other and their supporting casts, within the shows. But yeah, you should be fine. It's just, so far the premise is primarily a body swap thing, and those aren't nearly as enjoyable if you don't know the established character dynamics as they're supposed to be first, you know?
 
Primal Slayer said:
2 people that you've known for years come to saying "we've switched bodies" and your immediate reaction is to A. Not believe them and B. to LOCK THEM UP as if they were criminals? That makes zero sense!?! And then Barry wants Oliver to talk to iris to try to convince her? Was she supposed to be refusing to speak to "Oliver" that Barry couldnt go over there and tell her exactly the same thing he says to her later on?
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This was my beef as well, the 2nd half was much better then the first half(15 minutes) due to this. The whole hiding identities and them getting locked up just felt forced.
 
They do say this crossover is leading into next years, so we might get a Crisis event. Otherwise I too am a little bummed that BW is not in E38. It would be nice to spread them out more across the universes. But I can see them doing that if she is intended as a replacement for Arrow and they want to keep her closer to the E1 heroes.
 
Love the team up against Amazo and the Superman/ Smallville stuff.

Looks like Batwoman will be in all three parts than we originally thought.

I think regular Superman will be in Arrow in some way as I expect Black Suit Superman to show up.

That tribute nod to Smallville was likely the one Stephen Amell was talking about.

I wonder what Superman was going to ask Supergirl?
 
SV Fan said:
This was my beef as well, the 2nd half was much better then the first half(15 minutes) due to this. The whole hiding identities and them getting locked up just felt forced.
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And locked up together? Why would you lock up two people that you are suspicious of together? Star Labs low on containment pods?
 
The first half honestly felt like they were stalling for time before getting to Earth-38, which was frustrating. But yeah, as soon as they got to Smallville I was lovin' it.
 
I really liked this episode. Probably my favorite of the crossovers since the first one. Loved the Barry and Oliver banter.
 
Team Flash locking them up was a little much, but I'm okay with it. It is usual for the normal level of Arrowverse 'logic.' ;)

And it gave us the beginning of a crossover that feels more like the first between Supergirl and Flash than the other middle two. The smaller cast helps a lot too.
 
The Smallville scenes were my fave. Little things there I liked:

-Clark and Kara's little talk about Argo.
-Clark and Lois probably getting engaged.
-Oliver "puffing his chest" when meeting Kara's Supercousin.
-Lois being Team Barry and generally finding Oliver to be a jerk.
-Kara's Green Arrow impression.
-Barry's "revenge" on Oliver.
-Clark's "a friend" line for the shirt rip.

It was all just delightful.

Also, I'm betting not only are Clark/Lois engaged, but Clark wants Kara to officiate (at least the Kryptonian portion), since with Zor-El dead, she's technically the head of the House of El now (Alura being house In-Ze).
 
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That was a really fun episode and felt like old school Flash. The crossovers always bring out the best in all the characters.

But since they used the Smallville theme song is this supposed to be the same Superman from that show, just not Tom Welling?
 
So much awesomeness in this episode! Can't wait for Part II and III!!! :wow::eek::mrk::pcg:
 
samsnee said:
But since they used the Smallville theme song is this supposed to be the same Superman from that show, just not Tom Welling?
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Nah, it was just nod. Just a "look, we're in Smallville now!" Supergirl's continuity doesn't jive with Smallville's.
 
I have not watched it yet but did Superman partake in any action scenes?
 
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