The Gaming Lounge: Beyond - Part 4

[ProjectPat2280]

Aaanyways on a sadder note, here's a great video on tragedy and videogame violence. A lot of good points made.

Really well said.

 

[Fading]

Since the Fallout thread seems to have fallen off the radar, I'll ask here. In NV I just got the Lucky 38 presidential suite, is it safe to store things in? I've been using my room in Novak, but the suite is nice, and I want to decorate it. However, I read comments from other sites that companions will steal your stuff, mainly food, and chugging your rare Nuka-colas. I only have two companions atm, so no one is staying there unattended, but I plan on getting more later.

 

[Havok83]

Why not just use the search feature? It works.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=323144&highlight=fallout

 

[Fading]

Why not just use the search feature? It works.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=323144&highlight=fallout

No, no. I didn't word it right, sorry. I should have just said it died instead. I know there's a Fallout thread, but it keeps dying off quickly . Wasn't sure if anyone even would check it anymore. It seems the Skyrim thread just took over as all things Bethseda. Anyway it's no biggie, I can just google some more later to figure it out.

 

[Havok83]

No, no. I didn't word it right, sorry. I should have just said it died instead. I know there's a Fallout thread, but it keeps dying off quickly . Wasn't sure if anyone even would check it anymore. It seems the Skyrim thread just took over as all things Bethseda. Anyway it's no biggie, I can just google some more later to figure it out.

Oh I thought you meant you couldnt find it. Like most threads, people dont check it frequently but once you post in it, it pops up in the subscrubed list and becomes visible again. Maybe its just me but I have this site bookmarked to my subscriptions and I mainly check those when I come here for threads with new posts

 

[Fading]

Oh I thought you meant you couldnt find it. Like most threads, people dont check it frequently but once you post in it, it pops up in the subscrubed list and becomes visible again. Maybe its just me but I have this site bookmarked to my subscriptions and I mainly check those when I come here for threads with new posts

Nah, I found the old thread when I started New Vegas to look for first housing advice as I was over burdened with junk. It was one page that questioned why the last Fallout thread died off, gave a link to it (which also died off at only 3 pages), and ended with a question asking about something back in July, lol. Basically I didn't want to necro bump a dead thread to ask that.

 

[Wolfwood]

I turned on PSN yesterday and suprisingly saw Bully on the store. I got excited thinking it was the HD remaster, Scholarship edition that launched on the 360, PC and Wii a few years back, only to see its only a PS2 classic. What a dissapointment. As if it were hard to just port over the better version

I've never played Bully, but always wanted too. Do you think I'd still enjoy the version they put up?

 

[Master Chief]

Since the Fallout thread seems to have fallen off the radar, I'll ask here. In NV I just got the Lucky 38 presidential suite, is it safe to store things in? I've been using my room in Novak, but the suite is nice, and I want to decorate it. However, I read comments from other sites that companions will steal your stuff, mainly food, and chugging your rare Nuka-colas. I only have two companions atm, so no one is staying there unattended, but I plan on getting more later.

It's fine to decorate the suite but yeah, they do tend to take stuff. Just use Novac as your pantry.

 

[Havok83]

I've never played Bully, but always wanted too. Do you think I'd still enjoy the version they put up?

If you can deal with outdated graphics then yeah. Personally, I have a hard time going to PS2 classics on my HDTV. If you can, Id hunt down the PC version. It should run on most setups from the last few years as its an older game. I had it installed on my old PC but only put a few hours in before it got pushed to the backburner. I need to go dig it up

 

[Iceman]

More details here. Turns out THQ and all their studios are being acquired by a private investment firm. Thankfully none of the games in development are being affected.

Aaanyways on a sadder note, here's a great video on tragedy and videogame violence. A lot of good points made.

At least that is good news then.

Yes, great video. He puts the facts across a lot more effectively than the average gamer.

 

[Fading]

It's fine to decorate the suite but yeah, they do tend to take stuff. Just use Novac as your pantry.

Gotcha, thanks. Works out better that way anyway. Have to go through 3 loading screens to get to the suite, where Novac is in and out.

It's funny though. I was reading other people's opinions on it. They kept asking why everything kept going blue in the suite. Then later on realizes that apparently companions like the expensive stuff, and were chugging the night vision nuka cola's.

If you can deal with outdated graphics then yeah. Personally, I have a hard time going to PS2 classics on my HDTV.

It depends on the game for me. FFVII, and FVIII did not age well, and IMO look worse on an HDTV. Suikoden, and Castlevania SOTN however look fine. I think the art direction has a lot to do with it. As for PS2 classics, I only have two, so can't comment on it (Persona 3, and Harvest Moon, both of which look fine). When I had my old fat PS3 that could play PS2 games I played more, but can't remember any that really bugged me.

 

[Havok83]

It depends on the game for me. FFVII, and FVIII did not age well, and IMO look worse on an HDTV. Suikoden, and Castlevania SOTN however look fine. I think the art direction has a lot to do with it. As for PS2 classics, I only have two, so can't comment on it (Persona 3, and Harvest Moon, both of which look fine). When I had my old fat PS3 that could play PS2 games I played more, but can't remember any that really bugged me.

well now you are talking sprites vs 3D models and sprites always age better. Its why SNES games dont look as bad as games from the PS1/N64 era

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Well this is original:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/senator-introduces-bill-to-study-violent-games-6401821

 

[Nathan]

Video Games do squat to you unless you are mentally unstable from the very start. And in that case violence in any media won't be good for you.

I played Mortal Kombat since the Amiga days and haven't been in a single fight. Though sometimes I do wish I didn't have this damn conscience. Ok, it's not sometimes, more like all the time. Still, I know what's right and wrong.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

A senator studies the effect of games in inducing violence in people?
What about politics? They do far worse

 

[The Squirrel]

People really want to target video games, yet no one is looking into all these R rated gore fests that show up in theaters every year.

 

[Benstamania]

Politicians have been witch hunting video games since Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman made a big deal out of Mortal Kombat.

 

[Soapy]

At this point, I welcome an "official" government-run study on the link between violent video games and violent behaviour. If it turns out like all the other studies and concludes that there is no link, then maybe they'll finally shut up about it.

 

[Iceman]

At this point, I welcome an "official" government-run study on the link between violent video games and violent behaviour. If it turns out like all the other studies and concludes that there is no link, then maybe they'll finally shut up about it.

Agreed, I was just about to say the same.

I think there should be an independent, widely publicised, comprehensive, DEFINITIVE! study into this. If it concludes in agreement with past studies that there is no link then maybe the matter can be put to rest or at least easily batted down whenever it is brought up.

If it is a fair study that concludes that there is a significant causal link between video games and real world violence then by all means put in restrictions that can help prevent this from happening.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Politicians have been witch hunting video games since Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman made a big deal out of Mortal Kombat.

Eh its what ever the most popular form of media seems to be at the time. At one point it was music. Lord forbid you listened to a KISS record and happened to play it backwards. DEVIL MUSIK!!!


I do think there is a link between violent media and actual violence though. Id find it hard to believe that our violent media isn't desensitizing us in some way to actual violence. I mean im not in the military but dont they use simulations to help gauge how one will cope with what he could possibly see in combat?

 

[Fading]

They always need a scapegoat. Rock n' Roll, pot, movies, TV, and now video games. Focusing on easier targets means they don't have to talk about the more important, harder, real issues. Like mental health, gun control, parents, bullies, ect.

The truth is, your 6 yr old shouldn't be playing COD. That's why there a rating system parents are supposed to abide by, and store employees not to sell to the wrong age group. Most parents won't take a child to a rated R flick, but they will buy a mature rated game for that child. That's the fault of the adult, and not something that should lead towards stricter laws.

Everyone is always eager to blame everyone but themselves, and it's one of my pet peaves. The media glorifying the killers, and running the story 24/7 for weeks is far more to blame than video games, but you'll never hear that topic raised seriously on the news. They just want to point the finger at everything for ratings sake, like they did Manson with Columbine. Now it's Mass Effect 3 because he liked it...despite, ya know, Mass Effect being about destroying machines to save the universe, and a lot of biological species deaths being of made up alien races.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Agreed.

 

[Soapy]

Was it even him who liked Mass Effect 3? Wasn't that his brother who the media immediately and incorrectly "outed" as the killer?

 

[Fading]

Was it even him who liked Mass Effect 3? Wasn't that his brother who the media immediately and incorrectly "outed" as the killer?

Not sure. I grieved for those lost, and stopped watching the news (which I usually do watch occasionally. I think being glued to the news during stories like these can be maddening, and unhealthy. However, as I was flipping around this morning Fox "News" was talking about violent video games. So I just assumed. If you're right, the media owes another apology. They already jumped the gun, and mis-identified the killer twice, which I'm sure was very unpleasant.

 

[Master Chief]

At this point, I welcome an "official" government-run study on the link between violent video games and violent behaviour. If it turns out like all the other studies and concludes that there is no link, then maybe they'll finally shut up about it.

I never thought of it that way, I just figured it would be a giant waste of time. I still think it's a giant waste of time but that would be really sweet.

Eh its what ever the most popular form of media seems to be at the time. At one point it was music. Lord forbid you listened to a KISS record and happened to play it backwards. DEVIL MUSIK!!!


I do think there is a link between violent media and actual violence though. Id find it hard to believe that our violent media isn't desensitizing us in some way to actual violence. I mean im not in the military but dont they use simulations to help gauge how one will cope with what he could possibly see in combat?

I haven't heard of anything like that in the military, but I have heard how the smell, not the imagery, is what always surprises them the most. Most of the preparation comes from doing mundane tasks and drills to condition them to follow orders despite metal flying through the air at them at insane speeds.

That said, yeah, an argument could be made that glorifying violence in media does desensitize people but I don't necessarily think that means people are more likely to commit violent acts.

I rarely watch TV. I turned on the news to quickly check the weather a day after the shooting and I was greeted by a full screen picture of the shooter. The concept of fame that easily attainable can be enough to make people do some heinous s**t.

Not sure. I grieved for those lost, and stopped watching the news (which I usually do watch occasionally. I think being glued to the news during stories like these can be maddening, and unhealthy. However, as I was flipping around this morning Fox "News" was talking about violent video games. So I just assumed. If you're right, the media owes another apology. They already jumped the gun, and mis-identified the killer twice, which I'm sure was very unpleasant.

Yup, they named the wrong guy. I really hope he sues them for slander and the "journalist" who reported that before checking facts is fired.