The HULK Thread

[Loden Greatstorm]

Do you think we will see Skaar in MCU?

 

[MbJ]

Not for a while if at all.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Chances are pretty slim. I like skaar but dont know if the mcu is the place for him.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Would be cool to see him in infinity wars but that's highly doubtful.

 

[scarlet-witch]

I'm not expecting Ruffalo's role in this to be huge, but I hope it's more than just a short cameo.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think it'll be akin to black widows role in winter soldier. Decent sized supporting role.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Do you think we will see Skaar in MCU?

I would love to, it's why I put my little idea of the after credits being him being born on a previous page. But it seems he is not their plans for a while at least.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I would love to, it's why I put my little idea of the after credits being him being born on a previous page. But it seems he is not their plans for a while at least.

That would be cool, maybe post IW.

 

[scarlet-witch]

I think it'll be akin to black widows role in winter soldier. Decent sized supporting role.

After making my way through the spec thread, I think you're right. I take my cameo idea back. He'll have a decent sized role.

 

[Iceman]

I think it'll be akin to black widows role in winter soldier. Decent sized supporting role.

Sounds about right.

 

[HammerDown]

Hulk in gladiator armour. This is gonna be good.
Finally he has some place to stretch the boundaries of his strenght against foes that will in fact challenge him.

Seeing him go at it again against Thor is also gonna be sweet.
Then again if Thor is really without his hammer i don't really now how that can be a decent fight.

 

[metaphysician]

Eh, not like Thor ever used much of Mjolnir's capacity when fighting Hulk, in the first place. Any other suitably indestructible melee weapon would serve almost as well.

 

[terry78]

Thor wasn't trying to kill him, only slow him down. He knew he could take it though. Now in this movie if there's something causing them both to just go full on at each other, maybe.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That would be cool, maybe post IW.

Hopefully, though if this their Planet Hulk adaptation, and it seems it is, here would be the place to introduce him IMO.

The after credits scene being him being born would be great, as then they could still wait a few years to use him while he is growing up on Sakaar. But I doubt it will happen.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I wonder if hulk will have the metal sleeve and leather skirt loke in the comics.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Hopefully, though if this their Planet Hulk adaptation, and it seems it is, here would be the place to introduce him IMO.

The after credits scene being him being born would be great, as then they could still wait a few years to use him while he is growing up on Sakaar. But I doubt it will happen.

We can dream...

 

[HammerDown]

Eh, not like Thor ever used much of Mjolnir's capacity when fighting Hulk, in the first place. Any other suitably indestructible melee weapon would serve almost as well.

Well the fight was short and he did hit Hulk at least once with the hammer. And "any other suitable indestructible melee weapon" wouldn't serve as well because then Hulk would have just taken it and used it agains Thor himself. Not mentioning mjolnir is no normal melee indestructible weapon. The worthiness factor is key.

In another prespective we could argue that mjolnir was not used fully in that fight. Not even close. Thor was not going all out crazy on Hulk... he was trying to contain him and he couldn't use any of the power inside the hammer. It's not like he could use the insane powerful moves he has shown before...

1 - That massive strike on the ground on the first Thor. The one when he was on the ice planet and was surrounded by enemies.
2 - That crazy lightning that took out several "ships/creatures" in the Avengers and halted the invasion in NY.
3 - That insane powerful move in Age of Ultron that ended up destroyng an entire city.

He was stuck in a sardine can packed with innocent people he was trying to protect. Thor was just using the physical abilites of the hammer and in a contained fashion.

*Sorry for my english. It's not the best.

 

[HammerDown]

That said... Thor without his hammer should not pose much threat to Hulk. At least from my point of view.

With the hammer on the other hand he can go toe to toe with Hulk and match him in just about everthing.

 

[Mjölnir]

That said... Thor without his hammer should not pose much threat to Hulk. At least from my point of view.

With the hammer on the other hand he can go toe to toe with Hulk and match him in just about everthing.

Power levels always fluctuate wildly in comics but Thor has had some tough fights with Hulk without Mjolnir in the comics. He's even killed Hulk and Thing barehanded, at the same time, in semi-canon (it happened in 616, but time was later reversed so it didn't happen). Having them have a hard fight with Thor being unarmed would therefor not be anything new, although I can understand why some wouldn't want it to happen.

 

[HammerDown]

I basically think it's a waste of a fight to have Thor without his hammer vs Hulk. Hulk is an absolute beast and Thor wouldn't last long. It would be a very uneven fight. I think we gotta have a Hulk vs Thor showdown in Ragnarok but that has to be with them in equal footing. Hence with mjolnir and no hold bars.

Then again how could "they" retain Thor with mjolnir for gladiatorial amusement? It's not an easy task. If the rumors are right and Hela destroys mjolnir somehow... then it would make sense for him to be captured and be used as a gladiator. But then we run into the same problem i have expressed before.

 

[InternetPeople]

I don't expect Hulk v Thor to be a real fight or at least not where one is truly defeated and left in a bloody heap. I can see it going Thor against "The Champ" and that revealed to be the Hulk. Hulk goes after Thor and then whispers something during the fight like "make it look good" and Down Goes Hulk! Hulk speaking would be a major shock for Thor and the audience. Thor goes on to speak with Hulk but he's not the smartest there is... and they break free and escape on the quinjet or whatever we saw from set pics.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

They could use obedience disk. Like in planet hulk.

 

[InternetPeople]

Which is why they would need to act in secret to avoid suspicion and need to work in conjunction to escape. That Hulk figured this out proves there is more going on upstairs than we've been led to believe which is a pretty big reveal, assuming something like that happens.

The disks don't control thoughts, they control actions through threat of pain. Hulk has been in the arena longer and has figured this out (Banner wakes up upon his arrival to unknown planet, gets captured, Banner refuses Grandmaster, he uses disk, Hulk Out! Hulk gets shocked into submission). So Hulk knows the deal, Thor recognizes Hulk in arena, Thor doesn't know Hulk is in control, real fight, Hulk speaks to Thor during fight, fake fight, Hulk loses (It's a Thor movie), eventual escape.

I don't think Banner will have much of a role in this movie but Thor may coax Hulk into letting Banner out to use his scientific expertise to remove the disks or Thor and Hulk smash bro the disks off one another. I'd prefer the smashing (which is comic accurate, I believe)

There always had to be some way for Grandmaster to control Hulk (and Thor) so I always assumed there would be disks or whatever, but they don't control thoughts and they don't turn people into puppets. They can be defeated.

 

[JtheDreamer]

I loathe the idea of Hulk and Thor "fake-fighting".

It should be a lot more physical than that - we've been waiting a very long time for a serious scrap. No, I don't consider what happened on the Hellicarrier a legit fight. Thor was trying to subdue/distract him more than fight.

 

[InternetPeople]

It's not really fake-fighting until the end when one has to win. If Thor has his wits about him then he would naturally hold back. If Hulk is not just a rage beast (which we got some of that in Ultron) then Hulk should hold back. I suppose you could have a real fight but their friendship kind of gets in the way of that. And it's not like Hulk and Thor haven't hit each other before, but it didn't really do anything (each character is insanely durable). This may be more like fighting with your brother. You're gonna fight for real but it's all superficial. You'd never kill each other or really hurt each other, but you might get in a good shot before turning on the mutual enemy.

I don't imagine you'll see these two in a true knock-down, drag-out fight until World War Hulk, if that happens.

I don't like fake-fighting either but understand who the competitors are, their history, the necessary outcome, and where the story needs to go. Sort of expanding on my last comment, what if Hulk comes out acting all rage-y and Thor goes "Oh, ****" and the fight starts for real. Real fighting until Hulk speaks *Hint, Hint* and Hulk takes a dive setting up Thor to be the champ to help gain favor, access, and eventual escape.

And it's not like the movie can spend a lot of time on this planet. Thor's got places to be.