Iron Man 3 The IRON MAN 3 News & Speculation Thread - - - - - Part 14

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Webfoot Hero said:
I just find it odd for someone to keep posting in a movie section that they don't and won't want to watch.
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It's funny (and pathetic really) that all three of you can't seem to get over the fact that I don't want to see the movie. Your opinions on the film aren't unanimously accepted yet all of you are also here posting and more often than I do. What's "laughable" is how important you guys seem to think your opinions or comments are. And lastly, I haven't been on the boards in about a week. Came back yesterday to see some new opinions and finalize my decision. If you are going to keep track on someone to troll them, at LEAST be accurate.:cwink:
 
How about we cool it a bit and not let things get heated.
 
Wolvieboy17 said:
Okay, here are my thoughts on the twist...

People basically need to harden the **** up. The 'theory' posted earlier about Killian actually being the Mandarin isn't just a theory, he flat out says at the end 'I AM THE MANDARIN'. He can breath fire, has the asian tattoos... He plays the role, as a string puller and heavy hitter and that is fine for me. So for all the people butt hurt about it, think of it this way...isn't it nice, just once, to go into a comic book film and be SURPRISED? Instead of being the idiotic know it all who nudges their friend/gf/wife every few minutes to say "Oh, that's bla bla from the comics"... Doesn't it feel nice to be as taken in by a story that's fresh and interesting as we might have been when we first read the comics that made us fall in love with the characters to begin with? If you just want to see a film that's a carbon copy of the comics, I would suggest reading the comics and just turning the pages really fast. The twist WORKED, it didn't diminish the threat, in fact Killian/Mandarin ended up being the strongest villain that Iron Man has faced YET (which has always been a weak point of the films).

Also, just think on what an amazing feat it was for a twist like this to stay under wraps, throughout all the trailers and rumours and everything. Like Kingsley himself says, "You'll never see me coming!". And we didn't. So why is that a BAD thing?
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Complete and utter male bovine excrement. You're telling me they can't find a way to please the non fans AND the fans ? As a fan I like being surprised but with something that is equally as awesome as the source it came from. Think TDKs Joker. Wasn't the Mark Hamill funny man I grew up with but man what a delight nonetheless.

And there are literally a thousand manners in which you can tie Extremis to the Mandarin without resorting to whatever that was they resorted to.
 
jmc said:
How about we cool it a bit and not let things get heated.
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Don't worry jmc, I've concluded and made my decision. Its just fun to answer people who weren't the target of any of my posts until they decided that my opinion and attitude didn't coalesce to their own.
 
Spideysays said:
They most definitely are. Mandarin has been around for 50 or so years while Killian was a nobody scientist who stole the Extremis he and Maya Hansen developed to sell it to terrorists. Then he kills himself due to the effects that the Extremis has in creating super terrorists. Lasted about two issues in IM history I believe. A wealth of story background for him to be elevated to a main villain.:doh:
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Like I said in another thread. THIS is all the story you need to make a compelling engaging Mandarin story and have it tie in to Extremis. You have the terrosist, Killian sells Extremis to him, Mandarin kills Killian on tv and now the Mandarin sort of has powers. You get the best of both worlds. Why not please both crowds ? No one is asking for the movie to be exactly like the comics.
 
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Spideysays said:
Don't worry jmc, I've concluded and made my decision. Its just fun to answer people who weren't the target of any of my posts until they decided that my opinion and attitude didn't coalesce to their own.
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We're saying at this point, you're aggravated by the twist. You don't wanna see the movie in theaters, maybe eventually when it's out on DVD you said. So why continue to come in here to discuss something you don't plan on watching at all for the most part?
 
Ultra Nolanite said:
Like I said in another thread. THIS is all the story you need to make a compelling engaging Mandarin story and have it tie in to Extremis. You have the terrosist, Killian sells Extremis to him, Mandarin kills Killian on tv and now the Mandarin sort of has powers. You get the best of both worlds. Why not please both crowds ? No one is asking for the movie to be exactly like the comics.
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But that's not what happened, the film has been made and it stands as is. I understand people have their opinions and that's fine. And the people who didn't like it can choose to ignore it and try to come up with things in their head. Like you just did, ways to "solve it" or make it better. But what's the point in doing that? What's done is done and won't be changed, so just move on. You guys don't need to watch the movie anymore, you don't need to purchase it for your collection. You can just ignore that it ever happened. Like Batman & Robin, just act like it never happened. You'll see how simple it makes things.
 
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Oh I'll act like it never happened. A shame and not what Marvel had in mind I surmise. All the other Marvel movies happened to me, even IM2. But I just like to voice my dislikes, forums are made for this.
 
Ultra Nolanite said:
Oh I'll act like it never happened. A shame and not what Marvel had in mind I surmise. All the other Marvel movies happened to me, even IM2. But I just like to voice my dislikes, forums are made for this.
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I love how this is always a retort as if we dunno that's what the forums are for, and opinions and all that. It just seems some people (maybe not you necessarily you) let these things really really get to them. They build up like a super hatred for little things or big things they wished were different. It's so ridiculous it's a movie, the best those kind of people can do for themselves is to just forget about it, rather then harping on and on just making themselves more angry over it.
 
^ there is a twist regarding the Mandarin that many people won't see coming, yes. And I think many will be somewhat distracted or disappointed by the matter. Many might be ok with it as well, I don't really know...

PS. The end credits after-clip is pretty damn funny! :-) but it has NOTHING to do with setting up Thor-2 though. I would just like to clearify this :-)
 
Spideysays said:
In YOUR opinion it didn't "diminish the threat" of a villain that no matter the spin doesn't exist. There are a ton of people on here whose opinion greatly differs from yours. So please don't come over here and state "the twist WORKED" because it worked for you but clearly not for everyone. Away from the Marvel thing "mandarin" is a title for a CHINESE public official or high ranking intellectual individual. A white man with affinity for Chinese tattoos is NOT Chinese and therefore not a "mandarin". The villain and name should have never been used. Period.


Finally, this necessity by some people who liked the twist to talk down to the fans who don't like it. Who the **** are you to tell them anything. They didn't like it. You did. Save your opinion if you can't accept that others won't agree with you. There's a reason why people fell in love with the comics. They loved the original stories. Book, novel, and print adaptations are done because fans want to see those stories in the flesh otherwise those stories wouldn't be adapted. Liberties will always be taken. We get it. You supporters of the movie must also get that many fans of the printed material want to see what they grew up loving as is. There will never be agreement. So stop talking down to non-supporters or "idiots" as you labeled them and make a thread for lovers of the film where your opinion will be shared and not questioned.
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well said.
 
Ultra Nolanite said:
Like I said in another thread. THIS is all the story you need to make a compelling engaging Mandarin story and have it tie in to Extremis. You have the terrosist, Killian sells Extremis to him, Mandarin kills Killian on tv and now the Mandarin sort of has powers. You get the best of both worlds. Why not please both crowds ? No one is asking for the movie to be exactly like the comics.
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I would prefer it about the way you said, but WITHOUT Mandarin getting powers. Killian selling it to him for making extremis soldiers is enough. Mandarin was menacing as this, even though a mere man, an untouchable man and unbeatable at his own game
 
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Caboose said:
People still crying over the twist? What is this, CBM?
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I did say before I watched the film, that if the twist pisses off that many fanboys, it's bound to be something that I'd enjoy.
 
seriously, how many knew the twist before going in? Is it really that fun to spoil the movie to yourself before going?
 
Didn't know the twist before seeing the film... In a way I was ok with it. In another way, I really wasn't.
 
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