The Joker Thread - Part 1

C Prometheus said:
Oh definitely! I'd be all for Reeves recreating the classic TDKR Joker design onscreen.



Yeah, Miller's Joker is just flat-out eerie. We've had plenty of frightening takes on the Joker, but not many of them ever really have had that same eeriness that Miller's Joker has.

Interestingly enough, if the theory that Barry Keoghan's character in the film is secretly Joker winds up being accurate, I can very easily imagine him playing more of a TDKR-like Joker.
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You'll definitely need an actor who can convey that level of intensity. This would be a very disturbing take on the Joker as well
 
Not sure why, but this song kiiinda reminds me of the vicious, backstabbing way The Joker usually runs his gang.

 
The perfect TDKR Joker would have been early 2000s Jeremy Irons
 
I don’t think Irons would have been good as a regular version, but the cold, mechanical, Menacing aspect of Miller’s Joker You’re talking about was Irons’ sweet spot.
 
If they bring Joaquin back as a different Joker but want to connect the two universes then I guess I'd be fine with that. I prefer permawhite, though; maybe there's a way for them to make him super pale the next time we see him?

Not sure it'd be possible :-/
There are a bunch more "what ifs" with Phillips, Joaquin, and Reeves than the Jamie Foxx scenario.
 
I'd be perfectly fine if Phoenix wasn't in this. Honestly, besides not really being into his performance, part of appeal to me in seeing the Joker in this is seeing another actor tackle the role. That Phoenix is also a bit of a Michael Pitt himself doesn't help matter.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
While being fairly different from the typical look found in the source material, I personally thought Phoenix's fully formed look in 'Joker' seemed to convey the spirit of the Joker better than any other live-action iteration thus far, save for maybe Nicholson. Maybe it's the gangly frame. :shrug: Maybe that overrode all the stylistic curveballs, i.e., the blue diamonds, the red nose, the wine coloured suit and long hair.
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For me it's the skeletal physique and the brightly colored suit, especially the polka dot pattern on his shirt. It definitely helps that they brought back the classic orange and green color combo underneath the jacket, something I'd been missing for a while in live-action.
 
Art Vandelay said:
I'd be perfectly fine if Phoenix wasn't in this. Honestly, besides not really being into his performance, part of appeal to me in seeing the Joker in this is seeing another actor tackle the role. That Phoenix is also a bit of a Michael Pitt himself doesn't help matter.
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I don't think he's a "Michael Pitt", he's just super picky and takes his work very seriously. He's not unprofessional or anything like that. With that being said, I 100% get the appeal in wanting to see another actor in the role again, and partly agree with how you'd feel about Phoenix reprising the role; but, I'd prefer if he just played a slightly different Joker not connected to Arthur. I'm 50/50 on whether I want them to connect the two universes or not.

Honestly, with the way the movie ends, you could just have him as a nameless escaped patient or take a few cues from ASHOSE story-wise.
 
AndyTrevino said:
If they bring Joaquin back as a different Joker but want to connect the two universes then I guess I'd be fine with that. I prefer permawhite, though; maybe there's a way for them to make him super pale the next time we see him?

Not sure it'd be possible :-/
There are a bunch more "what ifs" with Phillips, Joaquin, and Reeves than the Jamie Foxx scenario.
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It has to do with whether Joaquin would like the multi verse pitch or not and if Reeves already has a younger actor in mind yet. Todd has said in the making of Joker (and I’m sure he’s talked to Joaquin about this interpretation) on how Arthur Fleck could just be a story that this lunatic is imagining in a white room.

So with that in mind, Joaquin could be up for changing gears once he sees Pattinson in action as Batman next year. It’s no different than Ledger suddenly feeling inspired to play the Joker after he watched Batman Begins. As an actor, once you get a strong taste of the world and tone, it’s easier to be convinced compared to right now where there’s nothing to really go on. As of now it’s all gonna sound like a cash grab offer without a vision. Next year things will change.

Creatively it’s an opportunity to add another colour to how he can play a single character. It’s a challenge that Joaquin and most actors never get the chance to do. That may intrigue him, who knows. We know he gets off on stuff like that. This also allows for a separate interpretation while tying Joker 19’ to The Batman trilogy. It’s a ‘have your cake and eat it too’ scenario. The studio gets to tie a billion dollar origin film to the future of Batman, while simultaneously disconnecting it from that version of Gotham or that version of the Wayne family.

I just personally feel like Matt Reeves already has a strong idea for his Joker. I think he’s had him in mind since before Joker was even filmed.
 
shauner111 said:
It has to do with whether Joaquin would like the multi verse pitch or not and if Reeves already has a younger actor in mind yet. Todd has said in the making of Joker (and I’m sure he’s talked to Joaquin about this interpretation) on how Arthur Fleck could just be a story that this lunatic is imagining in a white room.

So with that in mind, Joaquin could be up for changing gears once he sees Pattinson in action as Batman next year. It’s no different than Ledger suddenly feeling inspired to play the Joker after he watched Batman Begins. As an actor, once you get a strong taste of the world and tone, it’s easier to be convinced compared to right now where there’s nothing to really go on. As of now it’s all gonna sound like a cash grab offer without a vision. Next year things will change.

Creatively it’s an opportunity to add another colour to how he can play a single character. It’s a challenge that Joaquin and most actors never get the chance to do. That may in intrigue him, who knows. We know he gets off on stuff like that. This also allows for a separate interpretation while tying Joker 19’ to The Batman trilogy. It’s a ‘have your cake and eat it too’ scenario. The studio gets to tie a billion dollar origin film to the future of Batman, while simultaneously disconnecting it from that version of Gotham or that version of the Wayne family.

I just personally feel like Matt Reeves already has a strong idea for his Joker. I think he’s had him in mind since before Joker was even filmed.
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Yeah, there are too many obstacles in this scenario. We can still entertain the idea on the off chance that it actually happens, but it sounds like a pipe dream with all these in-between type technicalities and whatnot.
 
AndyTrevino said:
I don't think he's a "Michael Pitt", he's just super picky and takes his work very seriously. He's not unprofessional or anything like that
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I don't know about that, I've read he's difficult to work with, and he's always come off as defensive and moody in his interviews, if not downright rude. I'm kind of over rewarding actors like him, and I'd worry he'd just end up taking over the next production should he get cast as the Joker.
 
Art Vandelay said:
I don't know about that, I've read he's difficult to work with, and he's always come off as defensive and moody in his interviews, if not downright rude. I'm kind of over rewarding actors like him, and I'd worry he'd just end up taking over the next production should he get cast as the Joker.
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The worst I've seen him in an interview is for Brother Bear and the reporter was being a bit of an a$$hat. Granted, I haven't seen many of his interviews, but if that's what a lot of people tend to go off of (not saying you're one of them), then he was just defending himself.
 
Art Vandelay said:
I don't know about that, I've read he's difficult to work with, and he's always come off as defensive and moody in his interviews, if not downright rude. I'm kind of over rewarding actors like him, and I'd worry he'd just end up taking over the next production should he get cast as the Joker.
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He’s apologized since then. And vows to be better. Most of his rude reactions in interviews are because he’s being asked really stupid questions. Again, ppl who don’t take **** in Hollywood are perceived as difficult, because 1 percent of them don’t give a ****. The other 99 percent play ball to save their careers. The audience is then brainwashed to think that actors shouldn’t be moody, or have an off day on set or during a press tour. They’re human. Not robots who smile and agree to everything thrown at them. But most of Hollywood have been trained to smile and agree. Which is why years later you hear about all the situations where actors were taken advantage of behind the scenes. Just look at the press tour for 2017’s Justice League. Fisher played ball. Imagine back then if he took the Phoenix approach and cussed out Whedon on stage? Guess what? He would be labeled rude and difficult. Nobody is allowed to act real in Los Angeles.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
I think actors should be treated more like how they were treated back in Ancient Rome. :dry:
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Art? More like Fart

Movies were better when people were forced to kill each other for real.
 
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