The Joker Thread - Part 1

[Eddie Dean]

 

[emielaen]

I think Keoghan will be the co-lead of Gotham PD. Or at least I want him to be.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Keoghan is either Hatter, a Riddler informant or that one guy that’s getting interrogated by Batman with the bag over his head.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

After seeing two trailers for The Batman, I wonder if one of the ways they'd go with Joker is full on Grant Morrison Arkham Asylum Joker. Lean into a more horror movie monster look for the character, rather then another "dude applies face paint on himself" like Ledger or Phoenix. Use the same prosthetics and makeup team that turned Collin Ferrel into The Penguin and use them for The Joker.

 

[AndyTrevino]

After seeing two trailers for The Batman, I wonder if one of the ways they'd go with Joker is full on Grant Morrison Arkham Asylum Joker. Lean into a more horror movie monster look for the character, rather then another "dude applies face paint on himself" like Ledger or Phoenix. Use the same prosthetics and makeup team that turned Collin Ferrel into The Penguin and use them for The Joker.

That WOULD be a very niche look for the character in keeping with the creepier updates for Riddler and maybe even Penguin if you look at Jeffrey Tambor in Tales Of The Crypt.

That's more or less in line with how I keep imagining Joker in this universe. Freakishly creepy-looking with wild short hair.

 

[Razor Crest]

I’ve let my mind simmer on possible Joker castings… and concluded that if Colin Farrell can play the Penguin, nearly anyone could play the Joker. Incredible prosthetic and makeup work has gone to transform Colin into a completely different person. If Reeves intends to do a trilogy, he’s earned to cast who he pleases with my automatic approval.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

It shouldn’t be a competition of who’s more terrifying. We just need a great Joker. You don’t want to end up with the mistake of trying to make him super scary only to not be scary at all.

Exactly. To me the most important part is to make him funny and flamboyant (to taste). Scary too, but funny is the priority. That is what all the great Jokers have in common.

Phoenix Joker wasn't funny but he also isn't really a Batman villain.

 

[AndyTrevino]

Exactly. To me the most important part is to make him funny and flamboyant (to taste). Scary too, but funny is the priority. That is what all the great Jokers have in common.

Phoenix Joker wasn't funny but he also isn't really a Batman villain.

I'd argue his dancy mannerisms were pretty funny.

 

[Pittman4Two]

Apologize for my ignorance, but is it confirmed Phoenix's Joker will not crossover with this Batman trilogy?

 

[CondimentKing]

Back when Joker came out, Phillips denied it would happen. But then Pattinson redacted a comment about Joaquin in an interview in 2019. So we don't know. Probably not, but I could see it happening tbh. If he did it would logically be Joaquin as a non-Arthur Fleck Joker as it's a different world. Slim chance but it just depends on who Reeves wants.

 

[Mindreaper21]

I like Joker best when he’s accidentally/unexpectedly funny. The entire scene where Phoenix’s Joker kills Randall was absolutely perfect.

 

[Boom]

After seeing two trailers for The Batman, I wonder if one of the ways they'd go with Joker is full on Grant Morrison Arkham Asylum Joker. Lean into a more horror movie monster look for the character, rather then another "dude applies face paint on himself" like Ledger or Phoenix. Use the same prosthetics and makeup team that turned Collin Ferrel into The Penguin and use them for The Joker.

This is what I want more than anything. In which case, you cast Adam Driver. Driver made up to look like the ASHOSE Joker would be nightmare fuel.

 

[JubJub86]

Driver's got the height/build and the long face, and the guy can act bigtime.

I dunno though. Maybe it's just 'cause he's too obvious or something? Somehow don't feel Driver for this.

 

[chintai80]

the golden age mad monk story depicted him straight up as a vampire.

but matt wagner's modern adaption of it had the monk be this cult leader who had vampiric traits.
but they left it vague enough where they never confirm whether he was 100% a vampire or just a fraud who's good at the power of suggestion.

i can see reeves going that route if we ever wanted to inject some supernatural elements into a batman movie.

 

[shauner111]

Exactly. To me the most important part is to make him funny and flamboyant (to taste). Scary too, but funny is the priority. That is what all the great Jokers have in common.

Phoenix Joker wasn't funny but he also isn't really a Batman villain.

I thought he was funny Murrrraaaaay.

 

[Drizzle]

I thought he was funny Murrrraaaaay.

There were some awkward weird nuances to Phoenix's performance that I couldn't help but laugh at, especially towards the end.

 

[CondimentKing]

I love Joaquin's run.



POV: You are Batman

 

[Captain Tired]

Phoenix's Joker was hilarious imo. The facial expression he pulls after he drops the gun in the children's ward, walking into the sliding door at the hospital, disguising himself as a theater usher and getting away with it, etc. And his dark jokes during Murray's show were some of the most 'Joker' the character's ever been in live-action with regards to a sense of humour. They couldn't carry a tune to save their lives, your son's been hit by a drunk driver, etc. He's become purposely funny in a way that he never was as Arthur, but on his own terms and without a care as to who else finds it funny. That is totally the Joker.

 

[DarkKnight88]

“Funny” is like inappropriate, “I can’t believe he did that” thing. Like in the diary Heath Ledger had for Joker, he put down “cancer” as being funny to the Joker.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Apologize for my ignorance, but is it confirmed Phoenix's Joker will not crossover with this Batman trilogy?

I don't see Reeves wanting to take someone else's Joker, and I don't see Phoenix wanting to play Joker in a Batman movie where it would be more of a traditional comic book movie than Joker was (because that isn't what attracted Phoenix to the role in the first place).

 

[Mindreaper21]

So, after a bit of thinking, I’d like for Joker to look like a sort of combination of these two. Like a freaky flamboyant vampire. After seeing just how Neo-Noir this film is from the trailers, a colorful Joker will definitely work. THIS is the trilogy that should have Joker to massacre people at a fair carnival.

 

[shauner111]

IDC the drunk driver joke was hilarious. Like any joke it’s all about delivery. Norm MacDonald could make anything funny.

 

[CondimentKing]

RIP Norm

 

[BobJM]

Has Billy Magnussen (36) been mentioned before? I’m sure he has but I just saw him in No Time to Die and thought he might be fun as Joker. Maybe a little less obvious a choice to casual movie audiences too

 

[AndyTrevino]

Has Billy Magnussen (36) been mentioned before? I’m sure he has but I just saw him in No Time to Die and thought he might be fun as Joker. Maybe a little less obvious a choice to casual movie audiences too

I don't think he has enough of that "oomph" factor to go up against Pattinson. He seems more suited to smaller secondary characters.