Justice League The Joss Whedon Thread

[Lily Adler]

Here you can discuss Joss Whedon's involvement in Justice League and the DCEU as a whole.

 

[NotNickFury]

I think there was already an attempt at one of these. And it got closed.

 

[odilonredon]

why would it be closed? how is this not a valid topic of discussion on this board? joss whedon is the director of this film.

 

[odilonredon]

anyway, i really wonder how obvious it will be as to which scenes will be the ones directed by him. i'm sure everyone involved wants to make this hand-off as seamless as possible so it might not be obvious at all. "whedon doing snyder" is going to be interesting.

 

[Lily Adler]

I got permission from a mod to create it. The original was closed due to the circumstances with his hiring, but enough time seems to have passed for this to be open.

 

[metaphysician]

I am rather skeptical that Whedon's hand will be meaningfully noticeable in the final movie, anyway. Its fairly late in development, and honestly, even if Whedon wanted to do major creative shifts, its probably too late. Perhaps a scene or two might have the Whedon touch, but by and large it will resemble the movie it otherwise would have been.

Possible exception is if the rumored "massive reshoots" are true, but grain of salt there.

 

[BH/HHH]

Well if it's true he's been working with Snyder for months doing on set rewrites then that already makes good reason this thread. It's in addition that he's doing reshoots so it would seem he's been heavily involved with the film.

 

[Benal]

Well if it's true he's been working with Snyder for months doing on set rewrites then that already makes good reason this thread. It's in addition that he's doing reshoots so it would seem he's been heavily involved with the film.

What does "on-set rewrites" even mean? They were not on set until now. And how do you know that he's working with Snyder for months? Do you mean editing the movie with Snyder? He wrote the reshoots and that's it. Now he's shooting them.

 

[Greenlite]

Heard a rumor he started working for WB in Jan, someone hopefully can come up with the souce

 

[BH/HHH]

What does "on-set rewrites" even mean? They were not on set until now. And how do you know that he's working with Snyder for months? Do you mean editing the movie with Snyder? He wrote the reshoots and that's it. Now he's shooting them.

Read what I said properly.

Well if it's true he's been working with Snyder for months doing on set rewrites then that already makes good reason this thread. It's in addition that he's doing reshoots so it would seem he's been heavily involved with the film.

I never said he was I said if it's true. People really need to start reading posts properly. I had a debate in a thread last night with someone because they weren't reading posts properly.

 

[Silvermoth]

I'm looking forward to Whedon's influence. They're horrible circumstances in which he got the job but if you had to get anyone to replace Zack, he's the person

 

[Mandon Knight]

Be interesting to see what input/influenece Joss has, as I understand it, it's additional filming that has been pre-approved and will be shot with Snyder's visual style 'kept' in tune with what's already in the can.

 

[WBwins]

Realistically speaking Whedon most likely will add character building scenes,and improve the team interactions.

I do hope Whedon does more than that
Wldnt mind him brightenung up the Color palette.Tired of Zak Snyders permanent nighttime look

 

[Dark Raven]

I hope there are more daytime scenes. What I liked about the climax of the Avengers was it was all set in sunny daylight. I know MOS was supposed to be during the day as well, but that still looked very overcast and gloomy. It's also easier to see on the screen when it's daytime. Night scenes are very dark, especially in 3D.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Realistically speaking Whedon most likely will add character building scenes,and improve the team interactions.

I do hope Whedon does more than that
Wldnt mind him brightenung up the Color palette.Tired of Zak Snyders permanent nighttime look

Have you been outside before?

 

[Herolee10]

Come to think of it, with the exception of the Prologue scene that explains the whole deal behind the mother boxes, there weren't any action scenes in the trailer (or that we've heard of) that takes place during the day.

 

[WBwins]

Come to think of it, with the exception of the Prologue scene that explains the whole deal behind the mother boxes, there weren't any action scenes in the trailer (or that we've heard of) that takes place during the day.

Noticed that as well

 

[GreenKToo]

I hate it happened the way it did, but it's over and done with.
I'll add that whedon changing composers says TO ME that he is saying loudly that this is now his film. If you wanted it to be roughly the same as what came before then why change that? Was it him or WB.
Make no mistake about it, it will be different. How much is the question.

 

[mclay18]

They're not reshooting the whole film, that's for sure. People are panicking that because the composers changed they think that JL is no longer a Zack Snyder film. Guys, this isn't a Rogue One situation. Whedon is polishing up Snyder's film, with a better composer.

The studio is doing additional photography, but most of the editing and VFX are completed. Basically, the only thing different about Snyder's film is that it will have an Elfman score, rather than the MV/RCP sound fans are used to.

 

[Tra-El]

It's Zack's movie. He did all the heavy lifting, mostly leg day. Joss will leave his fingerprints and finish it off with bi's and tri's that brings definition to the film. It will be Zack's vision and tone with Whedon's flare and character moments. It's not hard peeps. I'm uber excited for JL.

 

[matt47]

It's Zack's movie. He did all the heavy lifting, mostly leg day. Joss will leave his fingerprints and finish it off with bi's and tri's that brings definition to the film. It will be Zack's vision and tone with Whedon's flare and character moments. It's not hard peeps. I'm uber excited for JL.

I'd be fine n dandy if Joss was just coming in to complete the production side of things. But he's in charge of post production until the movie's release, correct? As in, editing? That's what scares me. So much happens in the editing room. So damn much.

 

[Tra-El]

So much happens practically everywhere on a film and the major pieces were already in place. I think people are exaggerating on both sides of the equation. In reality, it's going to be Zack's film but Whedon is going to have leeway in some area's but they won't override what Zack has done. For MoS and BvS, peoples main gripe was pacing so I bet if Joss does have full control in the editing room then pacing will be key with levity mixed in, something fans have been pointing out since MoS. Zack's visuals, ideas and epic action mixed in with Whedon's flare and timing is a good recipe. In the end, the "My weiner is bigger than your weiner" unneeded Zack/Joss debate is white noise. I just want the best movie JL can be. Zack will be a huge part of that. So will Joss. It will be a collective effort.

 

[matt47]

So much happens practically everywhere on a film and the major pieces were already in place. I think people are exaggerating on both sides of the equation. In reality, it's going to be Zack's film but Whedon is going to have leeway in some area's but they won't override what Zack has done. For MoS and BvS, peoples main gripe was pacing so I bet if Joss does have full control in the editing room then pacing will be key with levity mixed in, something fans have been pointing out since MoS. Zack's visuals, ideas and epic action mixed in with Whedon's flare and timing is a good recipe. In the end, the "My weiner is bigger than your weiner" unneeded Zack/Joss debate is white noise. I just want the best movie JL can be. Zack will be a huge part of that. So will Joss. It will be a collective effort.

But just look at what happened with Junkie XL, he was in Zack's vision for the film and now it's gone. Who's to say Joss won't make the color grading more like his Avengers films? Who's to say he won't deliberately cut a scene short to end of a joke (I'm looking at you Age of Ultron).

 

[Tra-El]

If Zack and Joss have been collaborating then I'm sure they talked it out like the professionals they are in what WILL stick and what WON'T stick. Knowing Zack's personality, I think he'd give Joss leeway into some decisions but he's still a big part in the DCEU "sandbox" and I'm sure he would have made it clear on what is to stay. Afterall, this is all tied in to other films as well. On the flipside, I'm sure Joss is professional enough to not step on too many toes and only do what's asked from him. If he feels something needs a bigger punch then the studio should listen and give him reign. He's done this before but I think Whedon knows this isn't Marvel. There needs to be a certain tone and direction and good directors adjust to certain things, especially if they're taking over for somebody after tragedy.

 

[matt47]

If Zack and Joss have been collaborating then I'm sure they talked it out like the professionals they are in what WILL stick and what WON'T stick. Knowing Zack's personality, I think he'd give Joss leeway into some decisions but he's still a big part in the DCEU "sandbox" and I'm sure he would have made it clear on what is to stay. Afterall, this is all tied in to other films as well. On the flipside, I'm sure Joss is professional enough to not step on too many toes and only do what's asked from him. If he feels something needs a bigger punch then the studio should listen and give him reign. He's done this before but I think Whedon knows this isn't Marvel. There needs to be a certain tone and direction and good directors adjust to certain things, especially if they're taking over for somebody after tragedy.

I hope so man. Thanks for trying to cool my head a bit and put, you know, logic in there. t: