The New Ghostbusters - Part 5

[Zant]

Almost no one is ****ing on this movie because its about female Ghostbusters. But that's all Feig and the media have focused on.

The issue that a vast majority of fans have is them abandoning the old continuity for no reason, and with a (dare I say it) gimmicky concept of a team of female Ghostbusters.

That's not saying it'll be bad (though many fear it could be), but it's a pointless reboot, with a pointless gimmick. Because if they had to reboot, they could've just recast the old characters. And any other time, the studio would have.

Its not gimmicky. How do you know the vast majority of fans are ONLY mad at abandoning the old continuity and not the obvious stuff? Also has it been confirmed that this is a full reboot, I mean is Bill Murray playing a different character from the original?

 

[Mike_D202]

Yes, it's a COMPLETE reboot.

 

[SuperT]

I've gained so much respect for Feig. I love this. I wish more would do the same. You know why? Because not enough of our little knee-jerky fanboy culture recognize how s***ty our behavior really is alot of the time.

Fanboy culture is one of the most close-minded, ignorant sects out there. Anything that goes against the status quo is immediately hated on. This movie being called a "gimmick" is a prime example, even though no one ever calls the all male originals gimmicks.

It's always called a "gimmick" or "pandering" when white, heterosexual males aren't at the center of everything.

 

[Sawyer]

Fanboy culture is one of the most close-minded, ignorant sects out there. Anything that goes against the status quo is immediately hated on. This movie being called a "gimmick" is a prime example, even though no one ever calls the all male originals gimmicks.

It's always called a "gimmick" or "pandering" when white, heterosexual males aren't at the center of everything.

"Gimmick" and "pandering" are bulls*** accusations just like "agenda" is.

"Oh, those gays and their gay agenda!" Well, I don't know, you're the one b****ing about multi-colored Doritos, it seems to me you have as much an agenda as anyone.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I do think it's kinda gimmicky because the GB were never women. I am actually excited for this film, but let's not pretend that the all female cast is not some kind of gimmick. It's the talking point that they have used to sell the idea. It's why Feig is directing.

 

[SuperT]

Of course it's a talking point - it's an all female led cast in a huge blockbuster movie, there's so very little of as it is. There's no way around not making it a talking point so might as well trumpet it to the high heavens - that's huge!

It could be a game changer, that doesn't make it a gimmick.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Well, "gimmick" is probably not the right word. "Trend", perhaps?

 

[SuperT]

Eek, that might be worse. Diversity in media is only a trend? I hope not...

 

[I Am The Knight]

A gimmick, then

 

[Snow Queen]

I think the fact it's labeled as either a gimmick or a trend really just says it all about diversity in media. When it's thought of as a gimmick, there's clearly not enough of it.

 

[flickchick85]

I think the fact labeling it as either a gimmick or a trend really just says it all about diversity in media. When it's thought of as a gimmick, there's clearly not enough of it.

Indeed.

 

[The Guard]

I don't see how it's a gimmick to have an all-female team when it wasn't a gimmick to have an all-male team.

 

[DyeLorean]

We should have a teaser trailer soon.

 

[LostSon88]

I wanted a sequel, not a complete restart. That is where my issues lie.

I could care less if it's headlined by an all-female team if it was still in the continuity of the original movies.

 

[Mike_D202]

Fanboy culture is one of the most close-minded, ignorant sects out there. Anything that goes against the status quo is immediately hated on. This movie being called a "gimmick" is a prime example, even though no one ever calls the all male originals gimmicks.

It's always called a "gimmick" or "pandering" when white, heterosexual males aren't at the center of everything.

Your post makes Melissa McCarthy happy.

 

[Sithborg]

I wanted a sequel, not a complete restart. That is where my issues lie.

I could care less if it's headlined by an all-female team if it was still in the continuity of the original movies.

Here's the thing that I don't really get. Ramis is gone. Without Ramis, I wouldn't trust a sequel. So, they might as well go completely different direction, without trying to relive the the past. Because I have no confidence in trying to capture the first two movies would work out.

 

[Mike_D202]

They could have done a different team franchise somewhere else and continued the original universe in some capacity.

 

[LostSon88]

Here's the thing that I don't really get. Ramis is gone. Without Ramis, I wouldn't trust a sequel. So, they might as well go completely different direction, without trying to relive the the past. Because I have no confidence in trying to capture the first two movies would work out.

The 21 Jump Street movies are a perfect example of what I was hoping for with a 3rd GB movie. It builds its own world while at the same time acknowledging that the original series happened.

I didn't need the 3 surviving Ghostbusters to have major roles in this one, but just leave open the idea that their story existed. Which is why I was a big proponent of the original "passing of the torch" angle they were going with until Harold Ramis passed away.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I would bet some money that some of the folks trolling him are on this thread. Lawd.

 

[Sawyer]

I would bet some money that some of the folks trolling him are on this thread. Lawd.

I don't think we've got anyone THAT bad on the Hype.

 

[Thundarr]

The 21 Jump Street movies are a perfect example of what I was hoping for with a 3rd GB movie. It builds its own world while at the same time acknowledging that the original series happened.

I didn't need the 3 surviving Ghostbusters to have major roles in this one, but just leave open the idea that their story existed. Which is why I was a big proponent of the original "passing of the torch" angle they were going with until Harold Ramis passed away.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Thundarr]

They could have done a different team franchise somewhere else and continued the original universe in some capacity.

Agreed.

 

[Thundarr]

I don't see how it's a gimmick to have an all-female team when it wasn't a gimmick to have an all-male team.

The original movie was just that, an ORIGINAL movie. Making the four main characters all male in an original movie doesn't make it a gimmick. Doing a remake of the same movie and rewriting the four main characters as females, and giving them a male secretary to boot, THAT is what makes it a gimmick.

It's like doing a remake of Dirty Harry about a no nonsense cop named Harriet Calahan. Or a remake of Rocky about a female boxer named Raquel getting a shot at the World Title. Those are all gimmicks.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

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[BoredGuy]

Making the four main characters all male in an original movie doesn't make it a gimmick. Doing a remake of the same movie and rewriting the four main characters as females, and giving them a male secretary to boot, THAT is what makes it a gimmick.

It's like doing a remake of Dirty Harry about a no nonsense cop named Harriet Calahan. Or a remake of Rocky about a female boxer named Raquel getting a shot at the World Title. Those are all gimmicks.

that's pretty accurate
maybe "stunt casting" rather than "gimmick" to be nice about it??
but either way, taking your cast and completely flipping it just for the sake of doing something different?.. that there is the literal definition of Gimmick

Gimmick- n. a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.

A mixed cast, with no concern for how many are women or men or black or white or hispanic, but just getting the best/funniest actors? that's diversity

saying "well the old one was all men, so now we'll make one that's all women!" is a PR stunt

and personally, I don't give a s*** about the genders of the actors in this film, my issue is that they're not funny and were just hired because, to Hollywood, stunt casting in a seperate-but-equal reboot film = equality