The Official Avengers Thread (Heroic Age Bendis/JRJR) - Part 1

[moraldeficiency]

It's the 90's back again but now with 38% more penis envy guns!

 

[Gamma Goliath]

He looks like he belongs in Gears of War lol.

 

[moraldeficiency]

It's amusing. I love Nate Grey but I hate cable.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I love cable, and never got to read nate gray. im just confused as to why they decided to bring cable back in the avengers.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Because it sells better than X-Men comics.

 

[bored]

Idk if this has been posted, but I guess cables back to kill the avengers?

"Nobody will stop me from returning these guns to Rocket Raccoon."

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Difference being it's actually funny when Rocket Raccoon has a gun three times as big as he is. With Cable, it's just stupid.

 

[Aztec]

Bendis and Bagley's "Avengers Assemble". Could it be an Avengers comic worth reading? I love that they are keeping the team down to simply the movie characters and keeping the roster small. I hope this is as good as it sounds.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Bendis and Bagley's "Avengers Assemble". Could it be an Avengers comic worth reading?

Since Bendis is still writing it... no.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Bendis and Bagley's "Avengers Assemble". Could it be an Avengers comic worth reading? I love that they are keeping the team down to simply the movie characters and keeping the roster small. I hope this is as good as it sounds.

I actually find that roster to be quite boring. Now don't get me wrong, I sure do love having Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Spider-Man, and Daredevil as Avengers, but what makes the team really shine are the smaller characters like Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel, Wonder Woman, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, the Vision, Black Knight, Hank Pym, Wasp, Tigra, etc.

This book just reeks of being a tie-in to the upcoming Avengers movie. They should have just put this roster in the main Avengers book and boost it up with a couple of lower tier characters.

 

[Aztec]

I actually find that roster to be quite boring. Now don't get me wrong, I sure do love having Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Spider-Man, and Daredevil as Avengers, but what makes the team really shine are the smaller characters like Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel, Wonder Woman, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, the Vision, Black Knight, Hank Pym, Wasp, Tigra, etc.

This book just reeks of being a tie-in to the upcoming Avengers movie. They should have just put this roster in the main Avengers book and boost it up with a couple of lower tier characters.

Ummm....but Hawkeye is in this lineup. And so is Black Widow. So there are lower tier characters. Also Spider-Man and Daredevil will (from the looks of it) not be in this series.

Of course it's a nod to the films, that's probably why I like it. I think it makes sense to have a nice fixed amount of characters, instead of a large amorphous cast of hundreds of "Avengers". I want a nice small team that's full of heavyweights: Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Iron Man; as well as few badasses: Black Widow and Hawekeye. That's why this lineup works for me (both in the film and this upcoming series).

Oh and this early promo art clearly reveals that Thor will be alive and well in a few months. LOL. They tried to "delete" him from the colored cover recently but you can actually still see the outline of Mjolnir.

Here's an interview with Bendis on the series. Get ready for the Zodiac Attack!
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=34928

 

[hippie_hunter]

Ummm....but Hawkeye is in this lineup. And so is Black Widow. So there are lower tier characters.

How about a few more than just two. Two that haven't been in a movie.

 

[Aztec]

How about a few more than just two. Two that haven't been in a movie.

I never really understood why people want teams with literally dozens of members. A small group is so much better, IMHO. I'd like to get to know these characters and stack the odds against them. Otherwise it becomes a cameofest and where's the threat if they can just call in Thing, Spider-Man, Wolverine, etc. for back up?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Why "get to know" characters in a team book who are already in their own ongoing series? The lower-tier characters tend to shine in team books simply because they don't have anything else.

 

[IKB]

Boring lineup is boring.

Can't imagine they'll stay together for longer after the movie either, but I can't say I'm excited in the slightest about the dynamics between any of those characters.

 

[bored]

A good writer (*cough*Busiek*cough*) can make a large roster work. Bendis is only good with incredibly small casts. That's why "Alias" was brilliant and "Avengers" has been awful.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Yeah, I'm not thrilled about that line up either. The only thing I'm curious about is how the Hulk fits in and if Banner will be a part of Hulk or if it's Hulk individually. Other than that I'm not too interested... but I'll likely buy it like the stooge I am.

 

[Splat]

Bendis writing Avengers is what got me back into comics so I'm all in. The majority of Avengers stories I'd read before I found boring. And I know a lot of people dislike his Avengers stuff but it does sell really well and there's no way we get an Avengers movie had he not made the Avengers a top selling book.

 

[IKB]

It's not so much the writing that bothers me about Bendis, although that does, it's what I perceive to be a lack of long-term direction.

It always feels like he's writing one arc at a time to me and I can't really put my finger on any real development made by characters except perhaps Luke Cage.

 

[Texas]

Bendis writing Avengers is what got me back into comics so I'm all in. The majority of Avengers stories I'd read before I found boring. And I know a lot of people dislike his Avengers stuff but it does sell really well and there's no way we get an Avengers movie had he not made the Avengers a top selling book.

I don't think that the Avengers comic sales is the ONLY factor for a movie

 

[bored]

If Bendis were the reason, they'd go with a line-up closer to the one he writes, instead of something closer to the classic teams. It got made because people recognized the long-term franchise potential of such a project

 

[The Morningstar]

Avengers sells because Marvel want it to sell. That's how the comic industry works. They say "This book is THE book"... comic book readers will gobble it up.

Back when the likes of Busiek were writing it was all about the X-Men.

 

[JewishHobbit]

It's not so much the writing that bothers me about Bendis, although that does, it's what I perceive to be a lack of long-term direction.

It always feels like he's writing one arc at a time to me and I can't really put my finger on any real development made by characters except perhaps Luke Cage.

I actually feel it's the opposite. He's constantly setting up the long term from one event to the next and seldom stops to just tell a solid story. Everything's set up, then there's a payoff, then that payoff turns into a set up for the next payoff. It's very exhausting. I like him best when he just tells a story with little coming out of it. His earlier New Avengers arcs were like that and I liked it a lot. Once Civil War hit leading into Secret Invasion leading into Siege it all ran together. His stuff since Siege has gotten a little better though, so that's good.

And I think Luke Cage and Jessica Jones have shown the most development of the New Avengers. The rest of the cast rotates so much that he doesn't do much with them and characters like Spider-Man and Captain America are defined in their own titles.

 

[Drz]

The Avengers Omnibus cover looks outstanding:

 

[Spider-Man '92]

Now that is just awesome.