The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 3

[Docker2.0]

Yeah it is BS, I would've rather seen Pac in with Terrance Crawford. And HBO wasn't going to sign off on Khan.

But Bradley sells more tickets. Everyone involved knows it. Pac is so passed his prime he needs a guy like Bradley in there. I don't believe Atlas helped Bradley as much as people are being led to believe. Rios was already a walking punching bag, and in that fight he wasn't trained and already having problems with his trainer. Pac/Bradley should be a decent match, Bradley has been on a decline since the Provodnikov , and Pac has been on an even bigger decline with no KOs. Something will give.

All that said, I'm not buying the fight.

Honestly, I'd rather he fought Provodnikov. Isn't he a Top Rank guy? He's the more exciting fighter out of the HBO bunch. I can see this PPV bombing hard! Every Flip I know don't even planning on watching that and that says a lot!

 

[second herald]

Trust me, I don't think anyone is accusing Quillin and Jacobs of being monsters. Honestly, 154-168 is looking depressing. Only a handful of quality fighters throughout the three divisions.

168 has fallen the farthest. 5-6 years ago it was the best division, which certainly is not the case now. Since the inactivity of Ward makes him pretty much irrelevant these days the current version of Abraham is near universally ranked 1 or 2 at super middle.
Prime Abraham was not competitive with Froch or Ward and was well behind Dirrell before getting DQ'd. I don't see a current super middle that could dominate AA the way Carl and Ward did.
160 has some good matches to be made but there are no real challenges for GGG.
154 isn't too bad. I'd like to see Canelo/Andrade but that's probably not likely.

 

[second herald]

I don't mind Pac/Bradley 3, there are worse fights that could be made.
Eventually a Pac opponent is going to get the benefit of a declined Pacquiao.
Would much rather it be Tim Bradley than, Broner, Khan or Provo.

 

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[Doc Samson]

Pac/Bradley is always going to be a weird, hard to watch fight. They're both really sloppy, and at this stage of their careers, it'll most likely be harder to digest than the previous two.

I really would've liked to see Khan get a shot at Pac or Floyd simply because I think he would've gave them both more problems than people think. But I have no excitement or intention of watching this unless I have nothing else to do. Which...could be possible

 

[Docker2.0]

I can't believe Arum said that Khan would be a tough sell.................over Bradley! Khan is a way more interesting fighter at this point than Bradley. That fight is going to bomb! I honestly have no interest in this fight.............but may watch it because I'm probably going to be in the Philippines when it happens and it's free there. But no way will I pay for this crap.

 

[second herald]

China-chin Khan needs to sack up and fight Brook instead of chasing old men.
If anybody does not deserve to hit the Mayweather or Pac lottery it is him.

The first Bradley/Pac fight was pretty darn good.
Decision?
Not so much.
Lost in all that was the fact that the fight had a lot of action.
No it was not all one-sided either, Tim shouldn't have got the decision but it was a competitive fight.
Personally, I will take a good fight with a screwy decision over a boring fight every time.

 

[Doc Samson]

We all know Khan doesn't have a chin, but if making the most exciting fight is what everyone wants, than IMO he certainly would've given Pac or Floyd a tougher time than Bradley or Berto. Easily. He would be the quickest man either has fought in years, and in Pac's case, probably ever. It would've been interesting to see them try to adjust to that, at least more interesting than what we got with Berto and most likely with Bradley.

 

[Docker2.0]

Agreed! I honestly think Bradley is an almost shot fighter due to his fight against Provodnikov. He hasn't been the same since and there are times he's a jab away from being KO'd. I wouldn't be surprised if Manny KO's him. I also don't think this is Manny's last fight. When he agreed to fight Bradley again, Arum wired him a $2M advancement. Didn't dude(I meant Arum) just make over $100M when he fought Floyd? Now you need an advancement of $2M?! Not saying he's broke but he's not as well off as people think he is.

 

[second herald]

There is no way Khan is faster than the guys Pac was fighting in his featherweight days, he has dealt with speed before.

If Garcia could flatten Khan with his wide punches it wouldn't take long for Mayweather or Pac to time him and hurt him after which Khan would just get more reckless and easier to hit.

 

[Docker2.0]

With more weigh gain, you tend to lose speed. Khan has some of the fastest hands in the business. If you can't admit that then you are blind. No one said Khan would win, just said it would be interesting...............more interesting than a 3rd Bradley fight.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Amir Khan would've beat Garcia if he kept fighting the fight he was instead of getting lured into a brawl. Watch the fight again before Garcia lands' that big shot and you'll see Khan was winning.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Khan gets hurt far too easily. Khan needs to stop running from Brook. If Khan is the fighter he says he is, that fight would have already happened.

 

[Doc Samson]

His main problem, at least a few years ago, was his willingness to try and brawl. To Fallen Angel's point, if he stayed strategic and kept behind his jab, he would've beat Garcia. He certainly made a stronger case of beating Lamont (juicing no less) than Garcia did with that gifted win too.

Trust and believe, hand speed is the great equalizer and Manny hadn't fought anyone at Welterweight with comparable speed until Floyd. It would've been an interesting fight but absolutely, Khan has no reason to not step in there with Brook now that those two are off the table....

 

[Docker2.0]

Well I think now he has no choice. Brooks is the biggest fight he has available to him right now. To be honest, as much as people pick Brook to win that fight, I'm not sure he does. He beat an overrated Porter who's basically a brawler and he hasn't really fought anyone with a name. I think he has great technique but not sure he's really been tested, whereas Khan has. As much as people like to rag on Amir Khan, he has a pretty good resume. Not to mention the job Hunter has done on concealing that glass chin of his.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I have no idea who wins a Khan/Brook fight, but I do know who is afraid of the fight and that is Khan.

 

[Silver Spider]

I would have to favor Brook in a fight with Khan. Kell is a bigger, sharper version of DSG and he'll find Khan at some point in the fight. Amir will have success with his speed and reach, but I think he'll get hit with enough "Chocolate Brownies" to turn the fight towards Brook.

 

[Doc Samson]

To be honest, as much as people pick Brook to win that fight, I'm not sure he does. He beat an overrated Porter who's basically a brawler and he hasn't really fought anyone with a name. I think he has great technique but not sure he's really been tested, whereas Khan has.

I'm with you on that. Like I said his biggest problem has been his willingness to brawl, which obviously he's not built to do. When he stays with his technique and behind his jab, he's a very good boxer. And Brook really hasn't been tested yet. Not to mention a fight with Khan would be a spectacle for the UK, the possibility of either of them trying to do too much or getting too excited is very real. If I have to bet, I'm putting my money on the guy who's at least been in there in some big events and has the higher probability of keeping his composure...

 

[Iron_Stark]

You guys serious? Khan's fast, but that's pretty much it. Brook defeats him with relative ease. Look how Garcia handled Khan.

 

[Docker2.0]

You guys serious? Khan's fast, but that's pretty much it. Brook defeats him with relative ease. Look how Garcia handled Khan.

It's not so much I'm sure of Khan but so little I've seen of Brook and the little competition I've seen him. Love him or hate him but Khan's resume is way better than Brook's. He needs to step up.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Conor McGregor called out Mayweather on Instagram for recent comments Floyd made. God, talk about a superfight. Boxing match with MMA gloves. That would outsell Floyd-Pac.

 

[Fallen Angel]

it will never happen, no point dreaming about it.

 

[Docker2.0]

Nor would it make sense. If boxing is dying and Mayweather sucks, then why do so many MMA fighters continue to call him out..........particularly the top fighters in UFC?

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Floyd commented on McGregor first. He was just replying.

 

[Doc Samson]

It's not like McGregor would challenge him to a strictly boxing match anyway. And if he did....he'd be in for a long night.

You guys serious? Khan's fast, but that's pretty much it. Brook defeats him with relative ease. Look how Garcia handled Khan.

That's the thing though, he wasn't "handling" him at all in the first couple rounds. It wasn't until Garcia started getting dirty with repeated low blows that Khan stopped moving and got stationary trying to fight instead of box. Before that Garcia couldn't find him with anything.

If Amir stays composed, I don't see him being easy for Brook at all.