The Official Boxing Thread!!! - Part 3

[Fallen Angel]

I'm not, I'm gonna stream this.

 

[Doc Samson]

Not paying either, but I will watch it through more...nefarious means

I probably have the most respect for Khan in here. If he tries to engage and fight, as he's been prone to do in the past, he'll get knocked out...fairly quickly. If he tries to trade too much with too many combinations without moving in and out, he'll get knocked out.

But if he can somehow manage to get on his bike just enough to evade danger, while staying behind the jab, he'll give Canelo a good fight like Cotto did. Ultimately he'll have the same problem, I don't think he can hurt Canelo. And even if he outpoints him I still don't think he can win any sort of decision.

 

[Iceman]

If Khan gets hit cleanly once it's all over. Going to be hard keeping his discipline over 12 rounds with no margin for error. Canelo's power and Khan's chin are a very bad combo for him!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If Khan avoids throwing long combinations, he can last a while. But I expect Canelo to overpower him at some point, and test that questionable chin of Khan's.

 

[Silver Spider]

Khan would have to fight the fight of his life is he wants to lose a SD/MD; there's no way he can win.

I have Canelo by stoppage in the 5th.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Watching Khan get knocked out will never get old. He always looks like he was just murdered.

 

[B]

Pretty much what I expected to happen, size I feel played a part but it wasn't the main deciding one IMO, Canelo & Khan statistically might not differ too much in terms of height & reach, but Canelo's got a wider frame, is more muscular & evidently hits a lot harder.

Khan was doing somewhat alright he was keeping it safe but the longer the fight went on you could just see Alvarez coming more & more into the fight slowly but surely beginning to overpower Khan who was somewhat inviting pressure onto himself I feel. I'd have liked to have seen him try to hold his ground a little more, easier said than done I know, rack off a combination then dip out.

 

[B]

Watching Khan get knocked out will never get old. He always looks like he was just murdered.

The Prescott KO he suffered was absolutely savage.

 

[Fallen Angel]

And that fight is what sums up Amir Khan perfectly. He's ahead on points half way through the fight and he switches off and gets KO'd.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And that fight is what sums up Amir Khan perfectly. He's ahead on points half way through the fight and he switches off and gets KO'd.

He had lost the last two rounds going into that one. Canelo starts slow, and then picks up the pace. This was like clockwork for him. He was getting closer and closer as the rounds went on. As soon as he started landing, Khan stopped being active.

It wasn't about Khan switching off. It was about Khan not being on the level of Canelo. Weight didn't even matter.

 

[Docker2.0]

Khan needed this loss. I'm not a Kell Brook fan but the demands Khan puts on him are ridiculous. That fight should have happened by now and makes more financial sense right now than anything Khan could make right now.

PS- watch Dela Hoya dial the wrong number when calling GGG.

 

[Doc Samson]

Went as expected, Khan was winning, then he decided to not stay behind the jab, to not get out of the pocket, and got caught trying to throw some looping, lazy ass hook.

 

[Iceman]

Went exactly as expected. It's difficult being meticulous for 12 rounds if you're not Floyd Mayweather. And it makes it difficult watching Khan if you're a fan as any minute the whole thing can go up in smoke.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Why are people acting like Khan wasn't losing the fight before he got knocked out? It wasn't one moment. Canelo had him hurt and figured already.

 

[STARMAN]

This was one of those fights that went pretty much by the book.

 

[Doc Samson]

Why are people acting like Khan wasn't losing the fight before he got knocked out? It wasn't one moment. Canelo had him hurt and figured already.

I didn't think he was losing at all, at worst he had at least 3 rounds.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

Mayweather himself saying a fight with McGregor a possibility. I think that would outsell Pacqiao.

 

[B]

I didn't think he was losing at all, at worst he had at least 3 rounds.

I concur, Khan was winning the fight before the KO, I thought Khan won I believe it was the 1st, 2nd, then Alvarez 4th & 5th. The 3rd round was a toss up I personally thought Khan just about won it.

But that was to be expected, I expected Khan to win the opening few rounds but the longer the fight went on the more Alvarez would start to use his size & power advantage & begin to gradually overpower Khan.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I didn't think he was losing at all, at worst he had at least 3 rounds.

He was winning early. But come rounds 4, 5 and 6 he was not "winning the fight". He might have been ahead on the scorecards (he was down 2-1 on the actual cards), but he was clearly starting to get beat up and was losing the most recent rounds.

It wasn't like Khan got sparked out of nowhere, which seems to be the narrative the crazy British press are trying to run with. Earlier in the round he went stiff legged.

 

[Iron_Stark]

This wasn't a hard fight to score. Khan won the first two, Canelo won 3,4,5, and was winning the 6th. The punch didn't come out of nowhere, Canelo's body work was already having an effect on Khan.

I don't know where these score card conspiracies are coming from? Oh yeah the British press. lol.

And LMAO at Khan and Hunter being salty as hell after the fight.

 

[Assassin32]

Canelo feinted with a jab downstairs and Khan bit. Then the overhand right came screaming down. It was the exact same punch sequence used to turn James Kirkland's lights out last year.

 

[Doc Samson]

He was winning early. But come rounds 4, 5 and 6 he was not "winning the fight". He might have been ahead on the scorecards (he was down 2-1 on the actual cards), but he was clearly starting to get beat up and was losing the most recent rounds.

It wasn't like Khan got sparked out of nowhere, which seems to be the narrative the crazy British press are trying to run with. Earlier in the round he went stiff legged.

I gave him the first 3 rounds, which doesn't constitute him "losing" the fight...until he got his ass knocked out it was pretty even to me.

But I'm still not super impressed with Canelo. If Cotto was a bigger puncher, he might've gotten out of there with the W. And if Canelo ever steps inside the ring against GGG, although I don't think the world of him either, I think Canelo gets beat pretty convincingly.

Canelo has decent technical skills offensively, he just gets hit a whole lot by anybody who can jab even a little bit. That's now Lara, Cotto, Khan, even Trout, that have been able to touch him up without much trouble. The problem is he's a super middleweight, masquerading as if he's not, fighting a ton of smaller guys. And none of them can hurt him. GGG obviously wouldn't fall into that category, and if he doesn't get a little tighter with his defense, that fight probably won't go his way, if it ever happens...

 

[Silver Spider]

I gave him the first 3 rounds, which doesn't constitute him "losing" the fight...until he got his ass knocked out it was pretty even to me.

But I'm still not super impressed with Canelo. If Cotto was a bigger puncher, he might've gotten out of there with the W. And if Canelo ever steps inside the ring against GGG, although I don't think the world of him either, I think Canelo gets beat pretty convincingly.

Canelo has decent technical skills offensively, he just gets hit a whole lot by anybody who can jab even a little bit. That's now Lara, Cotto, Khan, even Trout, that have been able to touch him up without much trouble. The problem is he's a super middleweight, masquerading as if he's not, fighting a ton of smaller guys. And none of them can hurt him. GGG obviously wouldn't fall into that category, and if he doesn't get a little tighter with his defense, that fight probably won't go his way, if it ever happens...

I think you can make a case for either fighter being up at the time of the stoppage, but the momentum was clearly in Canelo's favor. Those body shots were reducing Khan's output more and more.

Cotto's problem is that he's never looked great off the back foot. He looks good going through the motions sometimes, but his power is greatly diminished and he gasses faster. I think GGG beats Canelo however he feels like it; he can outpunch him coming forward or outbox him with superior footwork.

Technically, Canelo's actually pretty solid and he's got a decent ring IQ. His biggest issues are his low volume and slow feet, movement is always going to give him trouble. He's gotten much better in exchanges, but he keeps letting his opponent lead too much.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think you can make a case for either fighter being up at the time of the stoppage, but the momentum was clearly in Canelo's favor. Those body shots were reducing Khan's output more and more.

Cotto's problem is that he's never looked great off the back foot. He looks good going through the motions sometimes, but his power is greatly diminished and he gasses faster. I think GGG beats Canelo however he feels like it; he can outpunch him coming forward or outbox him with superior footwork.

Technically, Canelo's actually pretty solid and he's got a decent ring IQ. His biggest issues are his low volume and slow feet, movement is always going to give him trouble. He's gotten much better in exchanges, but he keeps letting his opponent lead too much.

Exactly how I saw the fight.

On a potential GGG and Canelo fight. I keep wondering how Canelo would handle GGG's jab.

 

[B]

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You kidding me? Floyd Mayweather is actually entertaining talks about a potential boxing bout against Conor McGregor...

I understand McGregor has a backround in boxing at youth/amateur level.. but there is a massive difference between that & fighting in the pros.. not to mention against one of the best boxers to ever live if not the best.

I would literally be amazed if this fight was made & I'd be even further amazed if I didn't see Mayweather absolutely dismantle McGregor who literally only has a punchers chance of winning. He'd need to somehow do what 49 other people before him couldn't & that's land a fight ending punch on Mayweather's chin, there'd be no way he'd out decision Mayweather. I'm sure Mayweather doesn't give a crap if he's getting $100m+ but if he actually did fight McGregor & got beat via a decision it would be even more damaging to his legacy than having being KO'd by 1 of his other 49 opponents.

I'd rather Mayweather just stayed retired & McGregor stuck to MMA.