Superman Returns The Official Comic-Con Thread!

[Retroman]

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Singer and Donner at Comic-Con
Posted by Justin on 07/21/06

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular]Bryan Singer and Richard Donner, both Superman directors, just made a presentation at San Diego Comic-Con, and we've got the audio of the entire thing, right here. Click the link below to hear their presentation. Be warned, it is spoilerish.

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Additionally, you can see some photos and a live blog of the event over at BrandonRouth.com

After the presentation, I got to speak with Bryan about sequels and about the Richard Donner cut of Superman II. I was particularly interested in the Donner cut, since Singer's film has been stated to be a vague sequel to Superman I & II. I asked Bryan if he had any influence on the Superman II cut, or if Superman Returns was in any way being taken into consideration when re-editing the film. The simple answer? Nope. He did say, though, that he's seen much of it already, and it's really enjoyable.

I also asked him about the character of Jason White, and what it was that told him the time was right to take the Superman mythos in that direction. According to Singer, it's because "there's so many versions of Superman. There's so much comic book material, there's so much television material, and there's so many movies, I had to reintroduce this thing and make it different. I had to do something that hadn't been seen before." Different is what he made it, to be sure.

He also wanted to transfer some of the father-son relationship toward Kal-El being the father figure for a change. Kryptonian heritage, which has been so important in the film Superman universe, will continue to play a role in the future of the franchise as well, with Jason being the newest addition to the House of El. Bryan says, "Absolutely. You'll notice there's a bunch of crystals missing. They found their way onto a gigantic growing island laced with Kryptonite that's now floating in space somewhere. And there's an offspring there."

But what could we see in a sequel? Bryan reminded me that "as Martha Kent says - the universe is a big place. You never know what's out there. You've not seen the last of the planet Krypton. That's why I made sure I opened with it exploding." Let the fans chew on the implications of that one for a while.
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Interesting.

 

[charl_huntress]

^^Let's wait to see if there is a sequel. I fail to hear about Singer's "IFFY" COMMENT, yet that was the most talked about thing after the panel.

WB is waffling on him like Fox, but in the end Fox may end up making more money than SR........so maybe they understood Singer's deficiencies and kicked him out before he could really screw the franchise up. Maybe WB is going to wait a long tim too....

NO contract...LOL...and it's still IFFY.


Yeah...I just bet, Mr. Singer!

 

[itflies]

Thanks
This sounds good to me and i really want to see that blooper reel. Too many dvds don't even show the bloopers.

Yes, the gag reel is a MUST!

 

[Showtime]

Thanks for the Singer Photo and Returns Poster Retro.

 

[Retroman]

^^Let's wait to see if there is a sequel. I fail to hear about Singer's "IFFY" COMMENT, yet that was the most talked about thing after the panel.

WB is waffling on him like Fox, but in the end Fox may end up making more money than SR........so maybe they understood Singer's deficiencies and kicked him out before he could really screw the franchise up. Maybe WB is going to wait a long tim too....

NO contract...LOL...and it's still IFFY.


Yeah...I just bet, Mr. Singer!

Iffy?Hmmm...

Superman Returns Sequel Starting Late 2007?

Source: Variety May 16, 2006

In an article published by Variety, the trade magazine mentions that Superman Returns director Bryan Singer might not want to take on both the sequel and a remake of "Logan's Run."

Bryan Singer may not direct the remake of "Logan's Run" after all.

Warner Bros. and producer Joel Silver want to start lensing the sci-fi pic this fall, which would mean Singer might end up shooting two tentpoles -- "Logan's" and a "Superman Returns" sequel -- back-to-back.

No one begrudges Singer for seeking a break from big-budget projects, although the filmmaker probably won't make an official decision either way about "Logan's Run" until "Superman Returns" bows in July.

Assuming Singer's take on the [Man of Steel] is a crowd-pleaser, Warners plans to start shooting the sequel in the later part of 2007, with Singer again at the helm.

Even if he doesn't direct "Logan's Run," Singer is still likely to play some sort of role and perhaps take a producer's credit. Silver has been developing the project for some time now, with input from Singer.

There's been buzz that "V For Vendetta" director James McTeigue might step in and helm "Logan's Run," but at this point it's just rumor.

The full article is available for subscribers here.

Source:http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=4246

 

[Showtime]

^^Let's wait to see if there is a sequel. I fail to hear about Singer's "IFFY" COMMENT, yet that was the most talked about thing after the panel.

WB is waffling on him like Fox, but in the end Fox may end up making more money than SR........so maybe they understood Singer's deficiencies and kicked him out before he could really screw the franchise up. Maybe WB is going to wait a long tim too....

NO contract...LOL...and it's still IFFY.


Yeah...I just bet, Mr. Singer!

As far as I remember Singer left Fox to do Returns? Singer produced two great X-Men films in most people eyes. Not sure where Fox waffled on him?

Most all the reports I have read, except the one I just posted, include the fact that he said it was iffy. Of course it is iffy, but iffy doesn't mean yes or no.

 

[Retroman]

Thanks for the Singer Photo and Returns Poster Retro.

Your welcome!

 

[charl_huntress]

^^

Retro...that report is old! It's iffy as of July 21, 2006, and I was there to hear it. If Singer goes to Wondercon and says somthing different than...I'm down, but he said it was "iffy" and until I hear something other than "iffy" than it's "iffy" for me.

^^Showtime, I had heard and continue to hear that he had a lot of beef with FOX over that, but I don't know the inside details. I asked this question in the BO thread, and someone said that there was definite beef.


As far as I heard it, when Singer left there was no love lost.

 

[Pickle-El]

I have to wonder if we got all of Singer's 'vision' in SR? Did he plan this out?......Or, did we just get the 1st part of his planned movie? Some of these answers sound like foregone conclusions.....at least it keeps things interesting.

He made a point to mention:

Superman's Re-introduction to everyone being over, moving on...
The Kryptonian Tech
The Kid
Possible Alien Life

AND, he keeps talking 'Wrath of Khan'....today ISN'T the first time he's mentioned it.

Or, I'm just looking into it too much.

 

[Retroman]

^^

Retro...that report is old! It's iffy as of July 21, 2006, and I was there to hear it. If Singer goes to Wondercon and says somthing different than...I'm down, but he said it was "iffy" and until I hear something other than "iffy" than it's "iffy" for me.

Okay, gotcha.

 

[Pickle-El]

^^

Retro...that report is old! It's iffy as of July 21, 2006, and I was there to hear it. If Singer goes to Wondercon and says somthing different than...I'm down, but he said it was "iffy" and until I hear something other than "iffy" than it's "iffy" for me.

^^Showtime, I had heard and continue to hear that he had a lot of beef with FOX over that, but I don't know the inside details. I asked this question in the BO thread, and someone said that there was definite beef.


As far as I heard it, when Singer left there was no love lost.

He brought FOX 2 critical and financial successes....Oh, and FOX's highest rated show after American Idol. (House).

If they dislike him...I'd hate to be a FOX employee.

 

[Triligors]

We also know that Singer is great friends with the Donners. This is obvious from the various interviews with Bryan Singer and Richard Donner. Singer going to Donner to get the 'go ahead' with Superman Retuns. And that Richard Donner was an executive producer of X-Men, while his wife- Lauren is a producer of the X-Men films. Richard Donner has been very supportive of Singer on both projects.

 

[Retroman]

As far as I heard it, when Singer left there was no love lost.

Fox kicked him (cleared out his office) out because they got all hot headed when he signed for Superman. Around that period (summer 2004) over a year had past since the release (and success) of X2 in which time Fox had still not reached an agreement with Singer to direct X3 nor had they talked to the actors about coming back.All that changed quickly when they realized SR was going to be released in 2006 and it hit them that they really did have a hit franchise.

Singer had every intention of doing X3 even when had signed for Supes.He wrote a story treatment for the movie which reportedly had likes of Gambit, Beast, Angel and Emma Frost in it. Dan Harris even said that they were going to get Sigourney Weaver as Emma Frost.

You know if McG didn't have a fear of flying we might not even be having this conversation.

 

[Triligors]

It was more, Singer left Fox than Fox left Singer. Fox just didn't want to wait around, and that shows in the quality of X3. It was a very rushed film, and that is a common fact among comic fans. Heck, Fox almost had only a year schedule for the Wolverine project to go through pre, production, and post! Then that abrutly changes, personally I think a higher up at Fox stood up, finally, and said "no more rush jobs"- thank god.

 

[charl_huntress]

^^What you guys are saying is what I mean by "iffy".

He was a sure lock for X3...and he left

"Iffy" mean...maybe not, especially when taken in regards of his previous record.

Notice: Raimi is finishing Spidey, and Singer left X-Men

 

[Triligors]

HE left, not the studio. In this case he sounded REALLY excited about the sequel. Also, note that Bryan is, or seems to be, a Superman fan. There are reports of him watching Superman on the set of X-Men.

BTW, I interpeted the iffy line in a completely different way. In regards to the two projects that he is currently bouncing back on forth on. Didn't make up his mind exactly yet. That project would be 'Logan's Run', which coincidentally is ALSO a WB film. I would say this would create somewhat of a difficult contract, since both fllms are being handled by the same company. Which, I would think, would require a very detailed contract. That's just my take on it.

 

[Mentok]

^^Let's wait to see if there is a sequel. I fail to hear about Singer's "IFFY" COMMENT, yet that was the most talked about thing after the panel.

WB is waffling on him like Fox, but in the end Fox may end up making more money than SR........so maybe they understood Singer's deficiencies and kicked him out before he could really screw the franchise up. Maybe WB is going to wait a long tim too....

NO contract...LOL...and it's still IFFY.


Yeah...I just bet, Mr. Singer!

Thats just Singer being Singer. He has never confirmed anything until A studio has so first. He did it with the X-Men film and he did it with SR.

He dosent like to talk about that stuff until everything is underway.

 

[charl_huntress]

Thats just Singer being Singer. He has never confirmed anything until A studio has so first. He did it with the X-Men film and he did it with SR.

He dosent like to talk about that stuff until everything is underway.

He did confirm X3...I was there to here....

Fox confirmed it too, which is why I have never understood the change in directors. It still shocks me...but we all did hear about that...even if we were on different boards.

 

[Triligors]

And it's best to do it that way, because anything- and I mean anything- can come up, especially in this business. But, by the words surrounding it about the WB being excited and really supporting him and his amazing experience working for them.

But, I still think 'iffy' could have meant a couple of things. Not sure which one is right. You've probably read my interpretation above. Feel free to agree to disagree.

 

[charl_huntress]

And it's best to do it that way, because anything- and I mean anything- can come up, especially in this business. But, by the words surrounding it about the WB being excited and really supporting him and his amazing experience working for them.

But, I still think 'iffy' could have meant a couple of things. Not sure which one is right. You've probably read my interpretation above. Feel free to agree to disagree.

LOL..I do...and it was "iffy".

He was much more sure about FOX, and they cut him loose so what does tell you

 

[Triligors]

Once again, Charl from your earlier post we know you don't know the insides about what happened at Fox. Neither does anyone- for that matter- but, still I and many here have read dozens, upon dozens of interview articles about this.

Forgot the exact wording. But, Singer left upruptly to go work on 'Superman Returns.' It wasn't a "I'm thinking about working on this other project." It sounded more like a "I'm going to work on Superman, bye guys." It was a very silent at first transfer, he didn't want word getting out at all- very secretive. Then, once he got the word from the WB- HE left.

At least that's what I take from the interviews and how it all went down. Richard Donner's wife was one of the producers of X-Men films. That should tell you something right there. Richard Donner, in a way, gave Singer the go ahead with Superman, since if I recall directly- Singer went to Donner with his idea and more or less asked for his permission to go ahead with Superman Returns. Donner was supportive of Singer and the film from the start.

Some execs over at Fox were upset about Singer's uprupt departure. Singer left first.

BTW, weren't you the one that said Singer wasn't going to show at Comic-Con? How'd that work out for you? And out of the blue saying that all of those who said he was going to show were sheep? The sheep were right. Bahh.

 

[charl_huntress]

Once again, Charl from your earlier post we know you don't know the insides about what happened at Fox.

YOU are right, which is why I asked. If I need to find the response I got on this board I will. It was in the BO thread.

Neither does anyone- for that matter- but, still I and many here have read dozens, upon dozens of interview articles about this.

Dude! How crazy do you need to be to see that something didn't go on there? I was a novice and I didn't know, and I thought FOX was a fool for letting him leave.

Do you think that wasn't said anywhere else? That is why I asked the question in the BO thread...

Forgot the exact wording. But, Singer left upruptly to go work on 'Superman Returns.' It wasn't a "I'm thinking about working on this other project." It sounded more like a "I'm going to work on Superman, bye guys."

Read the BO thread...someone answered my question. Matter of fact, it may have been Retro. I don't know what happened at FOX, I'm only going on what I think happened and what I heard heard.

At least that's what I take from the interviews and how it all went down. Richard Donner's wife was one of the producers of X-Men films. That should tell you something right there. Richard Donner, in a way, gave Singer the go ahead with Superman, since if I recall directly- Singer went to Donner with his idea and more or less asked for his permission to go ahead with Superman Returns. Donner was supportive of Singer and the film from the start.

Some execs over at Fox were upset about Singer's uprupt departure. Singer left first.

Yeah, but...that all seems crazy. You don't kick out a director of a franchise when he is willilng to take on a sequel and Singer was willing... I know that.

So...something between that time and the interim occured...maybe it was SR

 

[charl_huntress]

BTW, weren't you the one that said Singer wasn't going to show at Comic-Con? How'd that work out for you? And out of the blue saying that all of those who said he was going to show were sheep? The sheep were right. Bahh.

Showtime and Snake are going to get very nice gift cards because I was wrong...does that make you happy

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AND I'M STILL RIGHT RIGHT...BECAUSE SINGER SHEEPS STILL BAHHHHH

 

[Triligors]

Combine what Retro and I said and you've got the whole picture. SR is what got in the way. Completely as I described it. Here, let me illustrate it for you:

It was a very silent at first transfer, he didn't want word getting out at all- very secretive. Then, once he got the word from the WB- HE left.

Singer left upruptly to go work on 'Superman Returns.' It wasn't a "I'm thinking about working on this other project." It sounded more like a "I'm going to work on Superman, bye guys."

Fox kicked him (cleared out his office) out because they got all hot headed when he signed for Superman. Around that period (summer 2004) over a year had past since the release (and success) of X2 in which time Fox had still not reached an agreement with Singer to direct X3 nor had they talked to the actors about coming back.All that changed quickly when they realized SR was going to be released in 2006 and it hit them that they really did have a hit franchise.

Singer had every intention of doing X3 even when had signed for Supes.

Fox went ahead with another X-Men film, because without Singer. X3 would have been out in theaters as early as 2008. X2 came out in 2003. You've got a complete 5 years there. That's an awfully long time. Yes, SR was the reason Fox left and the way Singer 'left' the project as well probably had something to do with it.

 

[Triligors]

And the sheep were RIGHT.