Superman Returns The Official Comic-Con Thread!

[Galactical]

NOOoooooooooooo

extended edition

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Donner only did one Superman - so far. We're still yet to see HIS version of S2, and I don´t think Singer would remake this one NOW.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

40 minutes of bloopers? Man alive.

 

[charl_huntress]

My god, it's a Donner love fest! Let's hope Singer won't do another Donner Supe movie for the sequel. Enough is enough.

I have been waiting for this....it was pretty sad if you were a naysayer...no comments for me because I STILL LOVE THE DONNER MOVIES

 

[GarudA]

Singer is one ****** he still wants to continue with the crap that has ruined the first movie, this guy will not stop, I bet we will see a scene where Superman and Lois and the Kid and Richard end up on Jerry Springer to talk about their problems.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

I bet we will see a scene where Superman and Lois and the Kid and Richard end up on Jerry Springer to talk about their problems.

Shoosh! Don't give 'em ideas!!!!

 

[Retroman]

Singer is one ****** he still wants to continue with the crap that has ruined the first movie, this guy will not stop, I bet we will see a scene where Superman and Lois and the Kid and Richard end up on Jerry Springer to talk about their problems.

Don't be ridiculous.

The most disappointing thing about that report is that there will no extended dvd.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23943

 

[GarudA]

Don't be ridiculous.

The most disappointing thing about that report is that there will no extended dvd.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23943

I was responding to this article before the mods merged the thread



http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=2439

The world's biggest comic convention, the San Diego Comic Con, is being held this weekend and Superman Homepage reporter Jeffrey Bridges has this special first-hand report:
On Friday, July 21 I attended the San Diego Comic-Con International to cover the "Warner Brothers Pictures Presents" panel and the "Warner Home Video's Superman Through the Ages" panel.

The former was held in Hall H, which is an expansive cavern of a room that seats 6500 people and which was cold enough to send shivers down the spine of a Wampa on Hoth. The panel opened with Hillary Swank, Joel Silver (and others) showing a trailer for their new movie, "The Reaping" and doing some fan Q&A. After that Neil LaBute came out to talk and show a few minutes of his new remake, "The Wicker Man". After that Bryan Singer was introduced and, no offense to the previous artists, it's clear that's who the majority of people were there to see.

The Singer panel started off with a roughly 4-minute clip of bloopers from "Superman Returns", which shows you just how much fun the entire cast was having on the set. Singer said he cut the clip together from about 40 minutes of bloopers, all of which he hopes will make it onto the DVD.

99% of the people who spoke to Bryan not only thanked him for making "Superman Returns", but they often bordered on being reverential. Among the highlights of Singer's comments:

Jason is 100% Superman's son. It's part of what he most looks forward to exploring about the sequel.

The night before they shot the scene with Superman in Jason's bedroom at night, Bryan was still kind of unsure of how to shoot it. He had a talk with one member of his crew, sitting on that set, and that crew member told him how he had a 1 1/2 year old child that the child's mother wouldn't let him see. He kept pushing and was finally allowed to see the child, and his feelings and emotions helped Singer figure out exactly how he wanted to shoot that scene (and during that scene, the actor playing Jason was actually really asleep).

Singer doesn't think he'll put the "Return to Krypton" scene on the DVD because he feels the first time it's seen, if it's on DVD, the full impact will be lost. He mentioned possibly debuting it in IMAX.

Singer hasn't yet officially signed for a sequel, but his intention is to do it and to have it ready by 2009 (the prospect of him doing a sequel drew applause from the audience). He's excited by it, because "SR" had to reintroduce the characters and the universe, but the next one can go "Wrath of Khan" and have a lot more action. He feels a lot of action when you're not emotionally invested in the characters makes for poor movies, and so now that people know and care about the characters he can ramp up the threat and do it much better (like he did with X-Men 2).

Singer then introduced Richard Donner to thunderous applause, before one fan mentioned that the Superman he saw on film wasn't the Superman he sees in the comic books, which got some weak applause behind it. Singer explained that he wasn't going to tread over what Richard Donner or Smallville had done, origin-wise, so he needed a starting point and he found the Donner film to be the most classic incarnation. So he started from there, bringing in little elements from the comics and other areas as he could, and hopes to bring in more from the comics in the next movie. He simply felt spring boarding out from the most classic interpretation was the best way to go, especially since it was the genesis of all modern superhero movies.

Richard Donner then said that fan reaction and emails to Warner Bros., was what got his cut of Superman II to come about, and it was something he never thought he'd see. He thanked all of the fans profusely and then they showed a long clip of how Lois originally found out about Superman's secret identity in Donner's version (which is superior by leaps and bounds over the "oops I fell into the fire" bit that made it into the Lester version).

The Donner cut also includes a scene Donner never actually got to film before being removed from the project, but that scene was used for screen tests with Reeve and Kidder and so, from those two different screen tests they were able to reconstruct a scene that never before existed (even if Chris looks 25 pounds lighter and has short hair one second and long hair the next).

When asked about the Christian parallels in SR, Singer mentioned that even though he was raised Jewish and went to a Catholic school that he's not very religious, but religious themes intrigue him. He thinks that comic books are our modern myths, and are founded on religious stories like King Arthur and other myths of old. 500 years from now he thinks people will look back on this time and the comic books will be our mythology.

When asked if he thought the marketing for SR has hurt its performance at the box office, he seemed bothered and agitated but said that he couldn't really say much about it. But he had some issues.

When asked why Singer chose to focus so much on the love story, he said that Lois has been part of Superman's live for 70 years and he wanted to make a movie for the romantics and to challenge that part of himself as a director and storyteller. He thinks the sequel will be much more focused on Superman's being an orphan (which was covered a bit in the cut "Return to Krypton" sequence).

Singer also confirmed that Jason's asthma and medical problems weren't a ruse, but were real until he discovered that he didn't need the inhaler anymore. That was meant to parallel young Clark losing his glasses when he learned how to fly, which is when young Clark learned that he didn't need them anymore.

At one point one fan also asked him why he felt the need to make Superman have an "illegitimate son" as that was something that "wasn't very moral", which was met with light applause. Bryan said that life's not like that and it's not always easy. Sometimes children aren't planned for, and he needed to give Superman an insurmountable challenge and he couldn't do that physically. He felt this was the best way to do that, and it's the world we live in. He then said that children are born out of wedlock, it's part of the reality of the world, and that he doesn't think that there's anything wrong with that (this was met with thundering applause).

The "Superman Through the Ages" panel featured Noel Neill, Mark McClure, Jack O'Halloran, Sam Huntington, Richard Donner and Michael Thau (producer and editor of the Richard Donner cut of Superman II) and was held in a much smaller room that still sat an impressive 4500 people.

This panel was mostly a love fest for Richard Donner from the fans, and Donner seemed completely overwhelmed by it. He was really touched by all the fan support and thanked everyone again for making seeing his version of Superman II a reality, as he honestly thought the footage would just sit on a shelf in London forever.

There was another clip shown of Donner's opening to Superman II, which features Superman diverting one of the nuclear missiles into space and the subsequent explosion being the trigger for releasing Zod, Non and Ursa from the Phantom Zone.

He also mentioned that the original ending for "Superman II" was pulled and used for the ending to "Superman: The Movie", and so they needed a new ending for SII. It was something Michael Thau came up with, but they didn't want to talk about it and spoil it for everyone.

Apparently the 14-disc Superman boxed set has been scrapped in favor of "The Christopher Reeve Superman Collection" boxed set, which will be 8-discs and should arrive in stores on November

 

[Retroman]

^^I don't see much wrong with that.
He seemed to handle the difficult questions quite well and i think he's going to steer clear from the Donner films a bit and use more from the comics.

I think Brainiac is on the horizon (literally) in SR2.

 

[Retroman]

From Comics Continuum:

COMIC-CON: SUPERMAN RETURNS SEQUEL UPDATE

At the Warner Bros. panel at Comic-Con International on Saturday, Superman Returns director Bryan Singer said that he wants to direct another Superman film for Warner Bros.

"I haven't concluded a deal to do it yet -- which is also iffy -- but my intention is to do it," Singer said. "My intention is to do it for 2009.

"With this one, we kind of introduced the characters and the universe to some degree, which required some measure of re-introduction since it had been several years since Superman had been around," Singer said. "The next one enables me to get all Wrath of Khan on it."

Singer said that he hoped screenwriters Dan Harris and Michael Dougherty would be involved in the next film. "If I can afford them," he said. "They're best friends and best writers."

He also noted that in the next movie he should be able to incorporate more contemporary aspects from the comics. "I'm very respectful of that," he said.

Singer was joined by Superman: The Movie director Richard Donner. "If he hadn't done that movie, there would be no comic-book movies," Singer said. "There would be template for Batman or X-Men on Spider-Man."

Source: http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0607/22/index.htm

 

[ultimatefan]

Yeah, I´m tired of this whole "Superman can´t have a child out of wedlock" thing, people need to wake up and live in the real world for a minute.

 

[Mentok]

He also noted that in the next movie he should be able to incorporate more contemporary aspects from the comics. "I'm very respectful of that," he said.

There you go, SR finishes up the Donnerverse and starts the Singerverse with the next film being more Singer than Donner.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Thanks for the quotes Tok glad to hear Singer say that

 

[Showtime]

There you go, SR finishes up the Donnerverse and starts the Singerverse with the next film being more Singer than Donner.

Which is what my theory has been since seeing the movie, I think at least one other poster brought the same theory up.

 

[Mentok]

Heh, as anybody ever seen Donner wear a shirt that fits him

(Apart from the 70's when his shirts were too tight.)

 

[Hunter Rider]

Let's just be thankfull they don't fit him in that they are to big not to small

 

[Silver Lad]

There you go, SR finishes up the Donnerverse and starts the Singerverse with the next film being more Singer than Donner.

I think you need to make a new thread on that Mentok, so certain slow learners actually get the idea.

 

[Silver Lad]

Don't be ridiculous.

The most disappointing thing about that report is that there will no extended dvd.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23943

If the extended edition airs on Imax.. it will likely end up Bootleged on the internet anyways...

Like my SR bootleg.

Thats fine by me, I'll just DL it.

 

[Showtime]

If the extended edition airs on Imax.. it will likely end up Bootleged on the internet anyways...

Like my SR bootleg.

Thats fine by me, I'll just DL it.

I wouldn't go around saying you bootlegged SR.

 

[The Eradicator]

The vocal haters can whine all they want, but what Singer did with SR was very smart. He gave us a great reintroduction to the world of Superman, and now he can move forward with his own, original vision for the sequel. As good as SR was, I think the sequel will be leaps and bounds ahead. A full blown sci-fi epic. BRING IT ON!

 

[Hunter Rider]

The vocal haters can whine all they want, but what Singer did with SR was very smart. He gave us a great reintroduction to the world of Superman, and now he can move forward with his own, original vision for the sequel. As good as SR was, I think the sequel will be leaps and bounds ahead. A full blown sci-fi epic. BRING IT ON!

It may even star you

 

[Darth Nata]

Considering that everywhere I go on the net people are ripping into Bryan Singer over Superman Returns, he sure got a good reception at Comic-Con...

 

[The Eradicator]

Considering that everywhere I go on the net people are ripping into Bryan Singer over Superman Returns, he sure got a good reception at Comic-Con...

The overall reception to this film is very positive. It's just that the haters are a lot more vocal about their views on the film, and there are also many people out there who have turned their backs on SR and Singer because of the box office.

 

[The Eradicator]

It may even star you

If they ever bring in the Eradicator, I can't wait to see how he reacts to Jason, who in his mind would be an impure Kryptonian abomination.

 

[Hunter Rider]

If they ever bring in the Eradicator, I can't wait to see how he reacts to Jason, who in his mind would be an impure Kryptonian abomination.

Now THAT sounds like the sort of theme i could see Singer exploring,very interesting