Superman Returns The Official Comic-Con Thread!

Also, I think something differently to take into account that Singer is still deciding what to finally do with 'Logan's Run'. Is answer hasn't been definite yet. Logan's Run is a WB film. Superman Returns is a WB film, it's sequel will be a WB film. Both films, both in the near future, uncertain futures, that sounds like an awfully iffy situation to me.

Add in what I know about the WB and how they are generally run, in terms of films and television. I know that once their supportive, they're more or less supportive for life. Unlike Fox. Which is one reason, as an aspiring film maker, I really want to work with the WB. You get their support, you're set. So Singer's full "iffy" sentence meant something totally different to me, since he said that in the same train of thought as "extremely supportive" and "amazing experience." Plus, gotta take into account- Singer isn't one with words- it's all a train of thought connected with 'ums' 'yeahs' aghs' and quiet moments.
 
Anyone have a transcript for the comic con audio? I cant make out a damn thing :(
 
You guys are distorting history.....no one knows what truly happened. Can we all agree on that much?
 
Yeah, no one knows. It's only various bits and pieces of a much larger puzzle.
 
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LOL...You are right...I don't know what happened. Yet, if what you and Retro say is what happened than Singer is an "iffy" director. You don't really know what he's going to do.

As for you sheep...BAHHHHH away...I'm not worried. You may bah and there may never be a sequel. So, in the end, the Tiger may roar and eat the sheep.

Anyway, what's really going on with Singer....were any of you at the SDCC...did any of you YOU here the "IFFY" comment?"

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I had a quotes of stuff for the the Brianiac isn't the Eradicator, but after I lost it all...due to my 'puter. I will quote someone else...look for it :)
 
Retroman said:
Superman Returns Sequel Starting Late 2007?

Source: Variety May 16, 2006

In an article published by Variety, the trade magazine mentions that Superman Returns director Bryan Singer might not want to take on both the sequel and a remake of "Logan's Run."

Bryan Singer may not direct the remake of "Logan's Run" after all.

Warner Bros. and producer Joel Silver want to start lensing the sci-fi pic this fall, which would mean Singer might end up shooting two tentpoles -- "Logan's" and a "Superman Returns" sequel -- back-to-back.

No one begrudges Singer for seeking a break from big-budget projects, although the filmmaker probably won't make an official decision either way about "Logan's Run" until "Superman Returns" bows in July.

Assuming Singer's take on the [Man of Steel] is a crowd-pleaser, Warners plans to start shooting the sequel in the later part of 2007, with Singer again at the helm.

Even if he doesn't direct "Logan's Run," Singer is still likely to play some sort of role and perhaps take a producer's credit. Silver has been developing the project for some time now, with input from Singer.

There's been buzz that "V For Vendetta" director James McTeigue might step in and helm "Logan's Run," but at this point it's just rumor.


The full article is available for subscribers here.

Iffy?Hmmm...


Source:http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=4246
Studios are starting to do this all the time before a film is released that they think will be a hit. Look at the date. Well before SR was released and did poorly at the box office. Studios do this stuff in case the film hits real big. Sometimes it doesn't and you never hear of sequels again. Sony did exactly the same thing wtih Godzilla in 1998. Emmerich and Devlin were working on a script before the first film came out for a sequel, and Sony reported a similar article to the trades. Same thing with Van Helsing. Summers was working on the script for the sequel, and Universal hyped it up in the trades before it was released and was received badly. they also did it with The Hulk in April of 2003. They had the guy who wrote the script for Hulk 1 writing another script already, and touted it in the trades before Hulk hit theaters and did so bad. Suprisingly there will be a sequel, but it will be a reboot and will have nothing to do with it's predecessor. Studios do this as they are hoping to get a successful franchise in case the film is a hit, they can start on it right away. But if the film does poorly at the box office, or is not well received, they shy away from doing a sequel.

So just because they reported it in the trades does not mean there will be a sequel, or if there is, that Singer, dougherty, and the other guy is on board. Because there is no contract yet tells me that Warner's is waffling, and they are waiting for the 200 mill mark. Had SR been a hit, the contract would have been in place right now. Star Trek 3 was greenlit the Monday after 2 hit the thaters. was greenlit the Monday after 3 hit the theaters. Star Trek 5 Greenlit the Monday after 4 hit the theates. 6 was not greenlit for a while, and Paramount was considering jettisoning the old cast based on the reviews of 5. But they stuck with it in the end. Spidey 2 with Raimi was greenlit the week after Spidey 1 hit and was such a huge success. That is how these things go if they are hits. So yes, it is "iffy" right now.
 
Wasn't there, but I heard it all plain and clear.

IMO, people are jumping way too much at the 'iffy' line. When to me, it doesn't hold much importance compared to what preceeds it and what it's followed by. As I said, WB- they seem to be a very hands on company that are always very supportive.

That is why you have "naysayers" jumping at it. While many are letting it be.
 
buggs0268 said:
Studios are starting to do this all the time before a film is released that they think will be a hit. Look at the date. Well before SR was released and did poorly at the box office. Studios do this stuff in case the film hits real big. Sometimes it doesn't and you never hear of sequels again. Sony did exactly the same thing wtih Godzilla in 1998. Emmerich and Devlin were working on a script before the first film came out for a sequel, and Sony reported a similar article to the trades. Same thing with Van Helsing. Summers was working on the script for the sequel, and Universal hyped it up in the trades before it was released and was received badly. they also did it with The Hulk in April of 2003. They had the guy who wrote the script for Hulk 1 writing another script already, and touted it in the trades before Hulk hit theaters and did so bad. Suprisingly there will be a sequel, but it will be a reboot and will have nothing to do with it's predecessor. Studios do this as they are hoping to get a successful franchise in case the film is a hit, they can start on it right away. But if the film does poorly at the box office, or is not well received, they shy away from doing a sequel.

So just because they reported it in the trades does not mean there will be a sequel, or if there is, that Singer, dougherty, and the other guy is on board. Because there is no contract yet tells me that Warner's is waffling, and they are waiting for the 200 mill mark. Had SR been a hit, the contract would have been in place right now. So yes, it is "iffy" right now.


Sorry hater, but there'll be a sequel. Live with that. :)
 
Ita-KalEl said:
Sorry hater, but there'll be a sequel. Live with that. :)
Live with this. You have become the new Venom. Trust me, if SR was at 250-275 mill, the contract with Singer would be done already. That is how these things go. I will be very suprised if Singer is on board at the end. And like I said, same things were mentioned with the films I mentioned where no sequel has been seen. Remember Batman 5? Yeah Warner's had what's his dork writing the script before Batman and Robin came out, and they even posted in the trades that the sequel is being written, with Schumacher directing, and they did have him writing it. Then the movie was released and the following Monday after Schumacher was told that they weren't doing one. Where was Batman 5? Same posts in Variety. Where is it? Oh that's right, they waited 8 years and did a reboot.

If you ask me this is nothing more than Singer trying to strongarm then like William Shatner did to get the job for Directing Star Trek 5 when he went on Johnny Carson to promote Star Trek 4 and said "I am directing Star Trek 5" on the air when Paramount wasn't even thinking of him doing it. But now that he announced it on national TV, Paramount was pretty much forced to after Shatner said it was a done deal because Shatner now had fan support when he went in to bargain for Trek 5. I think Singer is doing the same thing.
 
buggs0268 said:
Live with this. You have become the new Venom. If there was going to be a sequel with Singer, the contract would be done already. That is how these things go. I will be very suprised if Singer is on board at the end. And like I said, same things were mentioned with the films I mentioned where no sequel has been seen. Remember Batman 5? Yeah Warner's had what's his dork writing the script before Batman and Robin came out, and they even posted in the trades that the sequel is being written, with Schumacher directing, and they did have him writing it. Then the movie was released and the following Monday after Schumacher was told that they weren't doing one. Where was Superman 5? Same posts in Variety. Where is it? Oh that's right, they waited 8 years and did a reboot.

If you ask me this is nothing more than Singer trying to strongarm then like William Shatner did to get the job for Directing Star Trek 5 when he went on Johnny Carson to promote Star Trek 4 and said "I am directing Star Trek 5" on the air when Paramount wasn't even thinking of him doing it. But now that he announced it on national TV, Paramount was pretty much forced to after Shatner said it was a done deal because Shatner now had fan support when he went in to bargain for Trek 5. I think Singer is doing the same thing.


No, I'm only supportive, and you are only an hater if you don't want to accept the reality:

CS/SHH: Is the sequel going to happen?
Singer: Yes, probably for a 2009 release.


http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4542
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Ita-KalEl said:
No, I'm only supportive, and you are only an hater if you don't want to accept the reality:

CS/SHH: Is the sequel going to happen?
Singer: Yes, probably for a 2009 release.


http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=4542
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Summer said the same thing with Van Helsing 2. Consider this. Warner's came out publically by this time from BB's release date and said they were doing a sequel and they were chasing Nolan to sign. Besides Singer saying so, if there is a sequel, there is no guarantee that he will be on board. Like I said, if they were so gung ho, we would have already heard of the deal being signed. Let Singer say all he wants. Ang Lee and Shermis said the same thing at comic con after The Hulk came out, and even hinted at what they were writing in the sequel.
 
Pickle-El said:
I have to wonder if we got all of Singer's 'vision' in SR? Did he plan this out?......Or, did we just get the 1st part of his planned movie? Some of these answers sound like foregone conclusions.....at least it keeps things interesting.

He made a point to mention:

Superman's Re-introduction to everyone being over, moving on...
The Kryptonian Tech
The Kid
Possible Alien Life

AND, he keeps talking 'Wrath of Khan'....today ISN'T the first time he's mentioned it.

Or, I'm just looking into it too much. :o

It sounds to me like he's begging to keep his job. Please WB this time it will be one bang up job with aliens and choo choo trains and did I mention lois is having twins cause in my last movie Luthor knocked her up on the piano and did I mention choo choo trains?
 
buggs0268 said:
Summer said the same thing with Van Helsing 2. Consider this. Warner's came out publically by this time from BB's release date and said they were doing a sequel and they were chasing Nolan to sign. Besides Singer saying so, if there is a sequel, there is no guarantee that he will be on board. Like I said, if they were so gung ho, we would have already heard of the deal being signed. Let Singer say all he wants. Ang Lee and Shermis said the same thing at comic con after The Hulk came out, and even hinted at what they were writing in the sequel.

Saying this to people will only serve to confuse them long enough to reboot and drone on saying he said 2009, you heard it he's doing it.
 
WTFwuzThT said:
It sounds to me like he's begging to keep his job. Please WB this time it will be one bang up job with aliens and choo choo trains and did I mention lois is having twins cause in my last movie Luthor knocked her up on the piano and did I mention choo choo trains?
Exactly what it sounds like to me. Remember how Singer bragged about how fast the deal was done from when he did the pitch for SR. It was like 3 or 4 days. How long has the movie been out. The Variety article makes it sound confirmed, and yet still no contract. It honeslty sounds like the Shatner Manuever.
 
WTFwuzThT said:
It sounds to me like he's begging to keep his job. Please WB this time it will be one bang up job with aliens and choo choo trains and did I mention lois is having twins cause in my last movie Luthor knocked her up on the piano and did I mention choo choo trains?

LMAO...I told you to look for it:) ...lol
 
It's possible we'll see Superman and Superkid adventures. Look at hulk. It's getting hulk 2, which I'm guessing will use vague history so it's sort of a re-do/sequel. However I think buggs is right in that a WB might go ahead with a sequel, but do it without singer, like how the hulk's being done without Ang Lee (C.Lee's cousin?)

Another vague history sequel may be in development, a semi-restart that ignores some stuff from returns, maybe all of it.
 
Ita-KalEl said:
Sorry hater, but there'll be a sequel. Live with that. :)

Sorry,blinded and low IQ fanboy,but there wont be a sequel.Live with that.:)
 
David33 said:
Sorry,blinded and low IQ fanboy,but there wont be a sequel.Live with that.:)


Of cause there will.. jesus..2009 release date? the dvd will green light it if the B.o doesn't.. if it makes more than Batman begins..sequel will be greent lighted.
 
My god, it's a Donner love fest! Let's hope Singer won't do another Donner Supe movie for the sequel. Enough is enough.
 
David33 said:
Sorry,blinded and low IQ fanboy,but there wont be a sequel.Live with that.:)

How the hell are you not banned yet ?:confused: all you do is troll and act like the most immature fanboy this side of Freddie
 
Great CC report:up: Bad news for those who wanted an extended dvd though.:(

From AICN:

Published on Saturday, July 22nd, 2006 at 05:22:26 AM CST

SDCC: Quint on SUPERMAN RETURNS gag reel & sequel talk with Singer + SUPERMAN 2 footage with Richard Donner!!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. SUPERMAN had a big presence at the Con this year. Bryan Singer showed up with a gag reel and then up popped Richard Donner who brought one of his unreleased sequences from what he shot of SUPERMAN 2. Let's get started shall we? Gag reel first.

It starts off with a classic gag, Marlon Brando talking in close-up. He has the Jor-El hair and is wearing a black turtle neck, I'm assuming for effects reasons. He's giving a speech and then says, "You'll find such conviction within yourself, Kel-La.... Kal-El... Ralph... whatever you're called," then he busts out a laugh. Superman music starts up and we see lots of takes of young Clark in his "running past the cornfields" rig. He wipes out over and over again, getting up to running speed, then ending on his stomach, face in the ground.

Perry White: "Does he still stand for justice? Does he still stand for... what the **** does he stand for?" Richard White, holding Jason in his arms, "Close your eyes..." kid puts hands over his ears, like he's supposed to. (laughs) "Close your eyes? Cyclops?" Jimmy Olsen is standing in front of a large group of people. This is when he gets his big shots of Supes holding the Daily Planet. They're rolling and he says, "Oh, I'm supposed to look up..." he turns to the extras who are laughing at him, "I'm so funny! You guys did great, though..."

The Otis Theme starts to play around here and continues on through the rest of the gag reel. Another Jimmy Olsen, to Clark: "How pissed do you think Superman is?" Clark: "A lot." Jimmy nods. "He is a lot pissed."
Parker Posey this time, talking to the camera, Kevin Spacey next to her cracking up, "Let's keep it open. Let's just go. I mean, isn't it digital? So why are cutting all the time? Sorry. I must be in character." Kevin Spacey's face sudden darkens and he grows deathly serious and says in a stone cold voice, looking straight at camera, "So am I."

Next was another Lex moment. He goes in for a kick on Superman. Camera is low, pointing up. Can't see who he's kicking, but he runs up and kicks a little too real. "Oh, sorry. Did that really hit you? (Pause) I'm so sorry." Next is the slap from Kitty to Lex. Parker goes in for it and then stops herself. "I don't really want to hit you!" Off camera comes a voice, "He has asked that you hit him." Next take she slaps, but kind of pulls back and kinda makes it worse, knuckling Spacey in the chin. "I'm sorry!" Lex (sultry): "No, keep going!"

One of my favorite bits was that kitchen conversation between Lois and Richard. Kate Bosworth is facing camera, back to James Marsden. Richard, "That article that you wrote..." Lois, "Why The World Doesn't Need Superman?" Richard, "No, no, no. The article you wrote years ago, before that." Lois, "Which article? I was practically his press agent?" Richard, "I Sixty-Nined Superman." She cracks a huge grin, trying not to let it all out. "I Joined The Mile High Club With Superman. I Had Asphyxiated Sex With The Man Of Steel. He Ran The Vacuum Cable Around My Throat. I Ball-Gagged Superman." Lois wraps her dish towel around his mouth.

Superman himself: "I hope this experience hasn't turned on any of you..." stops, looks to camera, sheepish grin on his face.

Funny ****. Here are tidbits about the panel, including info on the SUPERMAN RETURNS sequel possibility, a mention of Brainiac by a fan and an... interesting response from Bryan and tons of trivia about SUPERMAN RETURNS.

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- There will NOT be an Extended Edition. The DVD will have many of the cut scenes, but not cut back into the movie.

- They spent $10 million on the Return to Krypton sequence. Bryan ultimately felt it didn't feel like a part of the same movie, so he cut it. It WILL NOT be on the DVD. It may appear in a special theatrical release later, like a new IMAX release or something. He loves it, but feels it needs to be seen on the big screen.

- A talk with an unnamed crew member on SUPERMAN RETURNS influenced the final scene in the film, with Superman looking at his child asleep in bed. One of the crew had fathered a boy, a relationship where she just wanted a baby and he essentially donated his sperm. He had to push and push to see the child and she finally relented, but he could only see him for 5 minutes when he was a year and a half. And only when he was sleeping. That encounter greatly influenced the direction Singer took with the end scene.

- The little boy is actually asleep in that final scene. He nodded off during rehearsal and they didn't bother to wake him.

- There are excised scenes between Ma Kent and Clark and Ma Kent and Ben (the old dude from the beginning... her gentleman caller)

- Frank Langella got the role of Perry White due to Bryan's friendship with Gary Goddard, the director of the MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE MOVIE, which is where he first saw Langella.

- Someone commented on the marketing of SUPERMAN RETURNS and how much it sucked. They pointed at SPIDER-MAN 3 and said they know how to market their movie. Singer just nodded his head and kept starting and stopping himself... and just said, "I'm not going to speak about the marketing." He was obviously not happy with it, but didn't want to step on too many toes. He did mention later that "a lot of people did their job... some didn't."

- Someone asked if he could "repair the damage" done by X3. His immediate answer was, "I'd have to see who's left in the cast..." got a big laugh. He then went very political, commenting positively on what Ratner was able to pull off in the time alloted to him.

- Another person asked what his X3 was going to be. Singer said he only wrote 1/3rd of a treatment that's floating around on his computer now. Phoenix was involved, but the villain was someone new... from the X-Men universe. He wouldn't specify since he's currently writing some stuff for Marvel Comics.

- Sequels... He wanted to have something nailed down with WB before the Con so he could answer this question. He said that the deal is not concluded, but his intention is to do a sequel to release in 2009.

- He intends to "get Wrath of Khan" in the sequel. He feels now that he's reintroduced the characters and have given people an emotional attachment to them that he can up the action without making it all "fireworks." He wants to really run Supes through the ringer, give him a giant obstacle. He mentioned WRATH OF KHAN more than once.

- Fan asked about Brainiac. At this point Donner had joined him. Singer said, "Can't say." But later mentioned Superman having an "alien" problem in the next one. He also said he wanted to wait to see what Donner is doing with Brainiac. At another panel, Donner told the room that he was writing Action Comics stories with Geoff Johns, his former assistant and now fan favorite DC writer. At this panel Donner said he loved Brainiac. So, expect to see him show up somewhere.

- This quote, when confronted by an agitated fan about the romance being so central to the movie. He expounded upon what he mentioned about about having an emotional attachment to the characters and said, "There'll be plenty of crazy, scary sci-fi **** in the next one."

- Writers returning? Singer: "I hope so."

Donner's SUPERMAN 2 footage!

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This was the real surprise of the panel. Singer introduced Richard Donner, who sat with him on some questions and then segued into a nice long clip from SUPERMAN 2, that Donner cut everybody's been talking about. He said that the internet fans are what convinced Warner Bros to put the money into compiling and cleaning up all the footage and cutting it together. The scene he brought is what he called a pivotal scene in the second film where Lois figures out Clark's secret in the Daily Planet. He used this scene to audition and it was Christopher Reeve's reading of this scene that got him the role.
There was some talk of portions of this sequence not existing and that some of the footage in the edit is from the filmed screen test, which had a mousey-haired Christopher Reeve with black shoe polish in his hair and missing about 25 pounds of muscle. I think that's what he said, but I didn't see it in the cut, so maybe I got that mixed up somehow.

It starts with Perry White walking through the Daily Planet reading a story about the capture of Lex Luthor by Superman and how his bomb plan had been foiled by Supes... "story by Lois Lane, picture by Jimmy Olsen... Ah, Luthor. You never looked lovelier," referring to a mug shot of the bald Hackman in prison stripes. Jimmy and Lois are talking, she's sitting at her desk. Jimmy looks up and says, "Oh, there's Mr. Kent! Bet you he wishes he had been around when it all happened." Lois: "Clark's never around when Superman's here..." Realization hits her. Clark is standing across the room, shooting a few worried glances towards Lois and Jimmy. He's being cornered by some Chatty Kathy.

Lois looks down at her paper, a photo of Superman is in it. She takes out a marker and draws glasses on him, a business suit around his super suit and hat on his head. She looks up and smiles. The whole time Clark has been trying to get away from this conversation and is looking worried. Lois whistles, she's got it! At that moment, Perry White calls, "Lane! Kent! Get in here!"

Clark says (to the chatty kathy) "Oh, dear me. Now I'm in trouble. Next time don't do that to me!" Lois throws some "super" remark at Clark as they enter Perry's office. White says Clark was late. "Sorry, Mr. White. I, uh... got stuck in traffic." Lois smirks. "Oh, that's a new one." "Excuse me?" "I mean as opposed to 'I was stuck in a phone booth' or 'I was locked in a bathroom'" Clark, "What are you talking about?" Perry interrupts. "If you two want to bicker, that's great. I have just the assignment for you. You're going to pose as a honeymoon couple in Niagra Falls to get an expose on the newlywed racket. Some of those motels are bilking those poor kids for every cent they can get! Real human interest stuff. Makes your Aunt Hattie cry her eyes out. Clark, "Um..." Lois, "That is a great idea, Mr. White!"

Clark, "Um, I'm doing a series on the city counsil..." Lois, "Oh, it wouldn't take long. We could fly right up there... you know... Superman..." Perry, "Good! See if he can give you a ride, it'll save a couple of bucks. 6 good photographs and that kid's hitting me up for a raise already!" Perry leaves the two alone. Clark, to Lois, "My goodness, you look like the cat who has swallowed the canary this morning." Lois, "Canary? No, I was thinking of something bigger. Something that flies..." Clark fumbles some more and Lois shows him her artful rendition of Superman in Clark get-up.

Lois, "You know I didn't start putting this together until this morning, which is really strange because a good reporter isn't supposed to let anything slip by them." Clark tries to laugh it off. She describes Superman. "Let's see... Tall... broad shoulders," Clark slumps down. "I have to give you credit. You had me fooled and I am nobody's fool, Superman." "You mean... you think I'm Superman?" Again he tries to laugh it off. Lois, "I'm willing to bet my life on it," she says as she opens Perry's window. "Lois! What're you doing!?!"

"You wouldn't let me die, Superman!" and she jumps out of the window. Clark speed runs through the Planet's office, whooshing up papers and blowing past all the reporters, but he's moving so fast they don't see him. He's in front of the building in a second. Lois is still falling. He uses his super breath and slows her fall. At the same time he uses his heat vision to burn through a lock that's holding a nice cloth sidewalk cover in place. It pops out and he super blows again, slowing her fall one more time just before she hits the cover and bounces off, right onto a fruit stand. Like breaking through the wooden thing. He super runs back up and when Lois looks up, covered in watermelon, Clark's looking out the window worried.

That was the scene. Looked great, seeing an alternate reality from the one I know. It was good seeing new Christopher Reeve Clark/Superman scenes. Anyway, there you have it. One more super large day in the works. Be back early tomorrow!
-Quint
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